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#1 compl3x

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 00:00

But it will support external storage devices


Engadget spoke with Albert Penello, senior director of product planning at Microsoft, where he confirmed that the 500GB hard drives included with Xbox One console won't be replaceable, and are "non-user-serviceable."
On the bright side, you can totally use external storage devices with the Xbox One. Just plug in a external drive into the USB 3.0 slot and you can do anything the main hard drive can do, from game installs to downloads.
Xbox One has non-replaceable hard drive, external storage is supported [Engadget]


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#2 soniqstylz

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 00:03

I guess that's not terrible. Glad they're not making users buy a MS-branded overpriced drive.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 00:04

Cool. So install your games there, and take that with you to your friend's flat. Issue solved.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 00:15

It seems like a bad move to include so little storage and not provide a way to easily upgrade it (external drives are very bulky), especially when installs are required. A single layer Blu-ray disc is 25GB and most AAA games will fill that (especially as the years go on) - that means you'll only be able to install 20 games, without even factoring in multi-layer Blu-ray discs, downloadable media and saved games. I like to keep all my games installed for convenience, which means my Steam folder is 1.7TB and ever expanding.

When Sony announced the PS4 it was talking about 4K movies being about 100GB+ downloads, which means a single 4K movie will take up 1/5 of the drive. At the very least I would have expected Microsoft to make storage easily expandable / replaceable, like with the X360. That said, at least USB drives will be supported meaning that people won't be forced to buy significantly overpriced official storage.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 00:18

Your internal drive dies, what next?

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 00:20

MS has learned from Apple. :laugh:

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 00:21

so what factor that make this HDD 'non-replaceable'?
was it because this XBOX use HDD's unique serial-numbers as one of keys in encryption process?

as this xbox connected to internet using browser, is it possible to sites to retrieve to serial number for tracking purposes?

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 00:21

It seems like a bad move to include so little storage and not provide a way to easily upgrade it (external drives are very bulky), especially when installs are required. A single layer Blu-ray disc is 25GB and most AAA games will fill that (especially as the years go on) - that means you'll only be able to install 20 games, without even factoring in multi-layer Blu-ray discs, downloadable media and saved games. I like to keep all my games installed for convenience, which means my Steam folder is 1.7TB and ever expanding.

When Sony announced the PS4 it was talking about 4K movies being about 100GB+ downloads, which means a single 4K movie will take up 1/5 of the drive. At the very least I would have expected Microsoft to make storage easily expandable / replaceable, like with the X360. That said, at least USB drives will be supported meaning that people won't be forced to buy significantly overpriced official storage.


Increases cost to the end user and increases the engineering needed. Saved games are now stored in the cloud I think.

Having still use the 20GB Xbox 360 launch model I'm fine with 500GB. :)

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 00:24

500GB seems like plenty of space to store games that you're playing even semi-regularly. You'll probably have to delete older games that you don't play anymore.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 00:38

Increases cost to the end user and increases the engineering needed. Saved games are now stored in the cloud I think.


I appreciate that but normally there are several SKUs to choose from with varying amounts of storage - that doesn't seem to be the case here. The biggest criticism is that the drives aren't replaceable like they are with the X360.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 00:41

If they support NTFS and ReFS, then no problem amigo!

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 06:16

If they support NTFS and ReFS, then no problem amigo!


It's probably a tweaked version of NTFS or just NTFS with bitlocker which would be the easy way to go about it. Honestly, you might be able to actually change the drive inside on your own unless it's really locked down but we don't know that. The only thing said is that it's not a simple task to do so. The original Xbox was like this but then people managed to install their own drives on their once the formatting was figured out.

If it dies the system should still work as well as I bet the OSs and core files are stored on a secure encrypted ROM and not the HDD. It'll toss out an error that it can't read your local saves/games etc though but you can have saves up on the cloud as well.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 06:39

Your internal drive dies, what next?


You do what 99.9% of PS3 users would do, send it in for service.

#14 TheLegendOfMart

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 06:47

Except you can buy a new one and easily replace it on PS3.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:41

It seems like a bad move to include so little storage and not provide a way to easily upgrade it (external drives are very bulky), especially when installs are required. A single layer Blu-ray disc is 25GB and most AAA games will fill that (especially as the years go on) - that means you'll only be able to install 20 games, without even factoring in multi-layer Blu-ray discs, downloadable media and saved games. I like to keep all my games installed for convenience, which means my Steam folder is 1.7TB and ever expanding.

When Sony announced the PS4 it was talking about 4K movies being about 100GB+ downloads, which means a single 4K movie will take up 1/5 of the drive. At the very least I would have expected Microsoft to make storage easily expandable / replaceable, like with the X360. That said, at least USB drives will be supported meaning that people won't be forced to buy significantly overpriced official storage.


Too be fair 500GB will satisfy just about all users. For those that go over then plug in a USB HDD, not that hard. Making everyone pay for an unnecessary amount of storage that will be used by arguably the minority is stupid. Also, we don't know about the packages that will be released, we may see a 1TB or 2TB "elite" edition for example - just at a greater price.

To those wondering about what happens when the HDD fails- 1) I'm hoping "non-user serviceable" means not recommended. Wouldn't surpirse me if you only had to open the console up and throw in an NTFS HDD that can be formatted by the system for use. Guess we will have to wait for more info to come out!



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