IE10 Platform Preview 2 released

Microsoft has just released IE10 Platform Preview 2. The download, which is now live on the IE test drive site, is the latest offering from Microsoft for the new platform. IE10 is the follow up to generally well received IE9, which was released only a couple months ago; platform preview 2 is the follow up to platform preview 1, which was released about 11 weeks ago.

For Microsoft, they have been fighting a battle against Chrome and FireFox for marketshare. While Microsoft did let IE6 go stale, the following iterations have built upon the success of the previous generation to bring new features to the table. Microsoft's latest browser, IE9, has been downloaded by millions of users.

IE10 for Microsoft represents their continued march towards bringing new and innovative products to the web. While it is not known what all the new platform will bring to the table, we do know that it will bring enhanced security features and will allow the browser to do more without the need for plug-ins. The IE blog states:

  • Beautiful and interactive Web applications are easier to deliver with support for several new technologies like CSS3 Positioned Floats, HTML5 Drag-drop, File Reader API, Media Query Listeners and initial support for HTML5 Forms.
  • HTML5 Application performance improves across the board, as well as the ability to deliver better performance with more efficient use of battery life with new technologies like Web Workers with Channel Messaging, Async script support, and others.
  • Web application security improves using the same markup with support for HTML5 Sandbox for iframe isolation.

With each new platform release, Microsoft moves closer to releasing IE10 for general consumption. The new platform will build upon the success of IE9 and will bring many new features to the consumer.

 

Download: IE10 Platform Preview 2

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And still no CSS 3 Text-Shadow support, but I guess they need to improve the standard text rendering before they tackle that one. I'm liking the sandbox features they've been adding.

srprimeaux said,
Would like to see something as innovative as a spell check in IE 10. Dreaming, I know.

well in mix11 someone asked that. and they said they were working on that. because they want a real spellchecker for alot of languages available like office. so it might be possible a spellchecker in ie10, still there is time. its not like they will put a spellchecker in IE10 preview. you will have to wait to beta to know if they implemented spellchecker as they said they were working on that in mix11

EmilyTheStrange said,

well in mix11 someone asked that. and they said they were working on that. because they want a real spellchecker for alot of languages available like office. so it might be possible a spellchecker in ie10, still there is time. its not like they will put a spellchecker in IE10 preview. you will have to wait to beta to know if they implemented spellchecker as they said they were working on that in mix11

How hard can it be? And why are they waiting for a universal one? Makes no sense to me.

srprimeaux said,

How hard can it be? And why are they waiting for a universal one? Makes no sense to me.

You're not a programmer for sure... or not a good one.

I hate it how IE9 say they are doing great with html5 etc. But that isn't even out yet, their browser still doesn't fully support a lot of css3 such as gradients. It's still lagging behind even opera in terms of web design support.

Gaffney said,
I hate it how IE9 say they are doing great with html5 etc. But that isn't even out yet, their browser still doesn't fully support a lot of css3 such as gradients. It's still lagging behind even opera in terms of web design support.

HTML5/CSS3 is still mostly a draft.
IE9 just implemented the most "stable" sub features of these standards. But at least, it did it well!

opera/chrome/firefox implement a lot of features with a non-standard/buggy behavior.
http://samples.msdn.microsoft.com/ietestcenter/

also note that last december, the W3C said that IE9 beta 1 had the most standard compliant implementation of HTML5 (not the widest implementation, but the best compliance with W3C standards)

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hard...nformance-test-is-ie9/10213

rfirth said,

Yes there is. It's built in to IE9.

TPLs were never designed to be an ad-blocker. They just have that side effect in some cases. They don't block all ads though.

TCLN Ryster said,

TPLs were never designed to be an ad-blocker. They just have that side effect in some cases. They don't block all ads though.

The "Easylist" tracking protection list actually acts like an adblocker, since it is based on the same list that adblock plus uses.

https://easylist.adblockplus.org/en/

I use it sometimes on some of my computers, and it blocks almost every ads!
No need for an heavy/unstable extension since this feature is built directly into IE9

link8506 said,

The "Easylist" tracking protection list actually acts like an adblocker, since it is based on the same list that adblock plus uses.

https://easylist.adblockplus.org/en/

I use it sometimes on some of my computers, and it blocks almost every ads!
No need for an heavy/unstable extension since this feature is built directly into IE9


Not that good.

MaSx said,
Yet, there is still no adblock oohh u need extension for it.

Why use a browser specific blocker when you can just use Ad Muncher and be done with it.

kraken benchmark shows a reduction from 17300ms to 17250ms with IE10 PP2 compared to IE9 for me on core i5 laptop, not much of an improvement. V8 benchmark is about 5% better.

torrentthief said,
kraken benchmark shows a reduction from 17300ms to 17250ms with IE10 PP2 compared to IE9 for me on core i5 laptop, not much of an improvement. V8 benchmark is about 5% better.

That is within a margin or error, also remember to run any comparative tests in the exact same frame size (maximizing IE9 release and IE10 PP2 will result in different frame sizes)

torrentthief said,
kraken benchmark shows a reduction from 17300ms to 17250ms with IE10 PP2 compared to IE9 for me on core i5 laptop, not much of an improvement. V8 benchmark is about 5% better.

Why would you even use Kraken? It's not a cross-browser benchmark, it was designed for testing the jscript engine of Firefox. It uses parts of WebGL (which is NOT a web standard) that isn't supported by IE.

I hope MS keeps working on the hardware accelerated rendering. As it is, text looks just plain awful on it. This is the same thing as FF4/5 with hardware accelerated rendering enabled. FF6 will apparently allow hardware acceleration only when needed but it still stands that the hardware accelerated text rendering looks like blurry rubbish.

LaXu said,
I hope MS keeps working on the hardware accelerated rendering. As it is, text looks just plain awful on it. This is the same thing as FF4/5 with hardware accelerated rendering enabled. FF6 will apparently allow hardware acceleration only when needed but it still stands that the hardware accelerated text rendering looks like blurry rubbish.

FF6 has full hardware acceleration just like FF5 and FF4. FF7 will also have full HW.

...IE10 is the follow up to IE9 which was released only a couple months ago. Platform preview 2 is the follow up to platform preview 1, which was released about 11 weeks ago....

10 comes after 9, and 2 comes after 1. In other breaking news, 7 comes after 6.

This article wins today's "stating the bloomin' obvious" award! Hurrah!

TCLN Ryster said,
This article wins today's "stating the bloomin' obvious" award! Hurrah!

Obviously not since you picked out the least relevant part of that sentence.

Timelines are what is being highlighted, in that MS are finally doing frequent updates to their process in order to keep the community in line, and following the same path.

Critical Error said,
I hope IE 10 in the Windows 8 beta will be based on PP3

doesn't look like build 7989 using IE10

The biggest issue I have with IE is that it only works on Windows. All the other browsers work on Windows and Mac. That way I can keep my bookmarks in sync. Use Chrome at work on Windows and Chrome at home on Mac. I like IE but this just kills me from using it.

Boyd Petersen said,
The biggest issue I have with IE is that it only works on Windows. All the other browsers work on Windows and Mac. That way I can keep my bookmarks in sync. Use Chrome at work on Windows and Chrome at home on Mac. I like IE but this just kills me from using it.

Yeah, I try to keep my work area clean.

Boyd Petersen said,
The biggest issue I have with IE is that it only works on Windows. All the other browsers work on Windows and Mac. That way I can keep my bookmarks in sync. Use Chrome at work on Windows and Chrome at home on Mac. I like IE but this just kills me from using it.

Install Windows on your Mac.

Boyd Petersen said,
The biggest issue I have with IE is that it only works on Windows. All the other browsers work on Windows and Mac. That way I can keep my bookmarks in sync. Use Chrome at work on Windows and Chrome at home on Mac. I like IE but this just kills me from using it.

RTFM. There're versions of IE for Mac and for UNIX.

Boyd Petersen said,
The biggest issue I have with IE is that it only works on Windows. All the other browsers work on Windows and Mac. That way I can keep my bookmarks in sync. Use Chrome at work on Windows and Chrome at home on Mac. I like IE but this just kills me from using it.

I hate the lack of sync, Chrome has built in sync with I love. But others you can install extensions to sync.

Boyd Petersen said,
The biggest issue I have with IE is that it only works on Windows. All the other browsers work on Windows and Mac. That way I can keep my bookmarks in sync. Use Chrome at work on Windows and Chrome at home on Mac. I like IE but this just kills me from using it.

There's a fully functioning version of Xmarks for IE. I use it almost entirely so that my Start menu 'Favorites' will have my Firefox bookmarks in it.

RealFduch said,

RTFM. There're versions of IE for Mac and for UNIX.

There is no such thing as IE9 for Mac or UNIX. The last mac IE version was 5.2.

dotf said,

Last I heard there were problems with HW acceleration in VMs on Mac.

Dual Boot or whatever it is called in Apple reality.

RealFduch said,

RTFM. There're versions of IE for Mac and for UNIX.

Yeah ancient versions. There's an IE for Windows 3.1 also but that's not very useful either.

TechDudeGeorge said,

I hate the lack of sync, Chrome has built in sync with I love. But others you can install extensions to sync.

You can install windows live mesh to sync all favorite bookmarks just like chrome

I doubt Microsoft cares about this but as a web developer, here is a feature request. Quit making it so that only one copy of Internet Explorer can be installed per copy of Windows! I'm ****ing sick of having to waste disk space on a new virtual machine every time a new IE comes out, and having to load 3+ virtual machines to test my websites.

Ninja Grinch said,
Last I checked the developer tools allowed you to change "modes". Which allows you to go back to IE7.

It's useful, but not 100% accurate. IE9's IE7 mode doesn't behave exactly as IE7 does.

I think they'd have to do some work to make IE 100% independent from the OS in order to do this. At present even though they've made great strides in Windows 7, it's still entwined in many ways. All IE versions to date just haven't been designed to be standalone apps, they merely update the version built into the OS.

I agree with you request though, so consider this officially seconded Now if only Microsoft bothered to read comments to news articles on Neowin

Fry said,
I doubt Microsoft cares about this but as a web developer, here is a feature request. Quit making it so that only one copy of Internet Explorer can be installed per copy of Windows! I'm ****ing sick of having to waste disk space on a new virtual machine every time a new IE comes out, and having to load 3+ virtual machines to test my websites.

If you have a bit of money to spend (or are a student, then go to dreamspark) get Expression Studio, it has a VERY useful program called SuperPreview. This app will load a page using any two available engines (or just one if you want) and display them in various ways, such as side by side or even overlayed. Browsers that are currently in SuperPreview are: IE6, 7, 8 and 9 as well as the 8->7 mode of IE 8, Firefox 3.6.16, Firefox 4, Safari 4 and 5 and finally Chrome.

Sraf said,

If you have a bit of money to spend (or are a student, then go to dreamspark) get Expression Studio, it has a VERY useful program called SuperPreview. This app will load a page using any two available engines (or just one if you want) and display them in various ways, such as side by side or even overlayed. Browsers that are currently in SuperPreview are: IE6, 7, 8 and 9 as well as the 8->7 mode of IE 8, Firefox 3.6.16, Firefox 4, Safari 4 and 5 and finally Chrome.


+1 for SuperPreview.

Sraf said,
SuperPreview. This app will load a page using any two available engines (or just one if you want) and display them in various ways, such as side by side or even overlayed. Browsers that are currently in SuperPreview are: IE6, 7, 8 and 9 as well as the 8->7 mode of IE 8, Firefox 3.6.16, Firefox 4, Safari 4 and 5 and finally Chrome.

Should be noted that for engines not locally installed, the page gets sent for server side rendering in MS' VM.

dotf said,

Should be noted that for engines not locally installed, the page gets sent for server side rendering in MS' VM.

Indeed, forgot to mention that, I guess I should then also note that the Safari versions in SP are the Mac builds, not the Windows builds (Which goes without saying on Safari 4)

Fry said,
I doubt Microsoft cares about this but as a web developer, here is a feature request. Quit making it so that only one copy of Internet Explorer can be installed per copy of Windows! I'm ****ing sick of having to waste disk space on a new virtual machine every time a new IE comes out, and having to load 3+ virtual machines to test my websites.

Internet Explorer Collection 1.7.1.0
http://fileforum.betanews.com/...rer-Collection/1217189605/1

eilegz said,
i hope that they improve and can make customization in the interface which in ie 9 its a mess

like choosing the search engine without twice clicking

Shadowzz said,

the address bar is a search engine... why need a seperate bar for it?

as in putting the search engine logo at the edge ,so you can easily see which engine in-use and change it easily

torrentthief said,
holy crap! 231 points + 9 bonus points on html5test.com, IE10 PP1 only got 125 + 5 bonus points!

Which just goes to show you that MS could've turned around can released this engine with the IE9 UI and called it IE10 if it wanted to be like chrome and now FF.

GP007 said,

Which just goes to show you that MS could've turned around can released this engine with the IE9 UI and called it IE10 if it wanted to be like chrome and now FF.

yea the could release an minor update and slip in the new engine

Ci7 said,

yea the could release an minor update and slip in the new engine

I'm hoping they will, the IE9 U.I is fine and the features are adequate (except for not having spellcheck and WebM built-in support). If they release IE10 at the end of 2011 with all these new HTML5 standards i'd be very happy as it can nearly compete with the other browsers in terms of CSS and HTML5 standards support now. IE9 was a massive leap, the other browsers still can't compete in terms of hardware acceleration months after IE9 went final and likely won't be able to compete for 3 months+. Never thought i'd see the day when IE would genuinely be able to compete, hats off to MS!

torrentthief said,

I'm hoping they will, the IE9 U.I is fine and the features are adequate (except for not having spellcheck and WebM built-in support). If they release IE10 at the end of 2011 with all these new HTML5 standards i'd be very happy as it can nearly compete with the other browsers in terms of CSS and HTML5 standards support now. IE9 was a massive leap, the other browsers still can't compete in terms of hardware acceleration months after IE9 went final and likely won't be able to compete for 3 months+. Never thought i'd see the day when IE would genuinely be able to compete, hats off to MS!

End of 2011? really thats a long time for a browser update

zikalify said,
End of 2011? really thats a long time for a browser update

its a browser upgrade. IE9 updates are released regulary through windows update. MS just keeps new features and functionality for major releases, not for IE9.1 to IE9.2. Which is better because it wont break compatibility for sites created specificly for a browser release.

MS Lose32 said,
Ballmer should give Dean Hachamovitch a raise!
And bring Chris Wilson back from Google. He was the senior excutive IE team, from start. Worked on all IE's, including IE9. Resigned for Google!

FMH said,
And a firefox, for a pet.

No. Mozilla fixed the bug with WebGL in FF that Microsoft claimed was the security flaw they couldnt support WebGL, meaning you basically have the browser wars all over again as some sites will use WebGL to render and some sites will use whatever hardware acceleration the beta fish use (lol) so you annoyingly have to have both browsers installed (theoretically) to see 'the entire web' this is terrible and now that the hole is fixed in FF microsoft needs to support WebGL.

WAR-DOG said,
"Developing..." does this mean it's not yet safe for use?

the story is going to be updated as more info comes in

WAR-DOG said,
"Developing..." does this mean it's not yet safe for use?

To an extent, you can use the Platform Previews as normal browsers (I did just that with the IE9 Platform Previews, and am repeating the trend with the IE10 PPs). Flash (which has been an occasional bugbear with IE9) is much improved behaviorwise with IE10 PP2 (I use Zynga's casual games on Facebook - all of which are Flash-heavy - as my major torture chamber). I'm also posting this via IE10 PP2.

Ninja Grinch said,
Glad to see them releasing platform previews relatively frequently.

yeah but the thing is the platform previews have a terrible UI. The platform previews for 9 you had to go to file and open to type in a URL. there was no address bar. Hopefully they have at least some rudimentary UI for this P.P. IE10.

Nexus- said,

yeah but the thing is the platform previews have a terrible UI. The platform previews for 9 you had to go to file and open to type in a URL. there was no address bar. Hopefully they have at least some rudimentary UI for this P.P. IE10.

Yeah, because they were made for developers and those wanting to test the engine, how pages were displaying, etc, not at all focused or worrying about UI. They are only concerned with UI enough to do what is needed for testing and analysis.