IE10 Platform Preview #4 released, only runs on Windows 8

Microsoft has just released its fourth iteration of IE 10 which can be downloaded here. The latest platform preview brings with it even more support for HTML 5 as posted on the IE blog

Microsoft is fully embracing HTML 5 and it is encouraging developers to start working with the new technology. Microsoft has even put together an IE 10 developers guide which you can read about here.

With this fourth Platform Preview, developers can start working with more site-ready HTML5 technologies. Here are a few highlights:

  • Cross-Origin Resource Sharing (CORS) for safe use of XMLHttpRequest across domains.
  • File API Writer support for blobBuilder allowing manipulation of large binary objects in script in the browser.
  • Support for JavaScript typed arrays for efficient storage and manipulation of typed
  • user-select property to control how end-users select elements in a Web page or application.
  • Support for HTML5 video text captioning, including time-code, placement, and captioning file formats

The video below also shows the new hardware acceleration that will be shipping with IE 10.

Microsoft runs through several demos in the IE 10 platform preview video. They show off how IE 10 can handle HTML 5 much better than Chrome, but to be fair, we can't quite call it a level playing field until IE 10 is published for general consumption. 

Microsoft is working hard to bring IE 10 with all of the support for HTML 5 that one could desire. While there is no confirmed ship date for IE 10, with each new platform preview, we move one step closer to the product shipping. 

It also looks like you need Windows 8 to run the platform preview as those who try to install it on Windows 7 will be greeted with the message below:

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I remember back when there was the IE9 beta and the IE9PlatformPreview and you could combine them....maybe it's possible to do that with the IE10 Beta and IE10 PP??? idk...

God I still miss these previews but all my work PCs are IE8 due to XP. Ive kept on my home pcs IE8 so I can always jump in but have had to move on to other browsers else where. Loving Chrome, slowly but surely this IE fan is being changed!!

I changed my IE 10 on Windows 8 to Desktop Mode and now I can't revert it back to the Metro app. Someone knows how I do it?

Developers really don't care much about just another HTML 5 browser, unreleased, not even working with latest stable Windows OS release ...

seriously MS IE10 was supposed to be out with W7 SP1 not still 'alpha' state ...

Dwarden said,
seriously MS IE10 was supposed to be out with W7 SP1 not still 'alpha' state ...

Where did you get that? IE9 was released about the same time as W7 SP1.

Josh the Nerd said,

Where did you get that? IE9 was released about the same time as W7 SP1.

that was more of irony of what they needed as for now IE10 is still just alpha

thealexweb said,
Did they just compare a stable build of chrome to their developer build, unfair much?

Stable builds of Chrome are released every six weeks. That's dev previews in IE terms.

It is installing on Windows 7 if you edit MSI file with ORCA but it is not starting .
There is an error message describes KERNEL32.dll erron in entry poin CheckTokenMembershipEx

I guess that there should be Hotfix update for Windows 7 that will correct that error because there are couple of prerequisite checks for build 7600 (Windows 7) . Just be patient

jasonon said,
download for windows 8? nobody has windows 8!!

So many nobodies out there though... There are over 1 million people that are running Windows 8, even if not as their main OS...

smooth3006 said,
Both metro & IE suck.

Ah, you say that like it is a bad thing...

Strange that you hate something that others like. The next time God seeks your absolute opinion, be sure to say hi for me.

*#22 - Feed the Trolls (Check)

Anyone cares to post the score of html5test.com please?

...To start getting an indicator of how much it has progressed...

thartist said,
Anyone cares to post the score of html5test.com please?

...To start getting an indicator of how much it has progressed...

Anyone that considers this a real test is foolish...

It includes things like WebGL, which has NOTHING to do with HTML5, is NOT a standard, and has been deemed by the world's top security experts as one of most dangerous concepts to have wide spread acceptance in the history of the internet. (WebGL is as dangerous as allowing native code to run unfettered on a computer, as the GPU is left wide open to websites that can exploit shader code and flaws in OpenGL to gain full access to a visiting user's system. - It makes ActiveX left wide open look like child's play in terms of security vulnerabilities.)

Yet because of Google and Firefox and their absolute ignorance in adopting WebGL to compete for graphical performance superiority, HTML5Test.com and others take it seriously. The original reason Google reached out to WebGL was to generate their WebGL fish in response to IE9's HTML5 fish tank, which IE9 does with true HTML5, SVG, CSS3 standards...

Ironic that after all these years of complaining about standards, Microsoft is the only one adhering to 'standards' as well as security, and because Chrome can't replicate IE9's compiler engine concept, Google and others are abandoning true 'standards'.

What if Microsoft released WebDirectX because IE wasn't fast enough to render real W3C standards, and instead was encourging people to write DirectX code for web sites that had full native access to end user's GPUs? The world would scream that Microsoft is pushing non-standards, and make fun of them for not being able to create a fast browser. Yet because Google and others are doing this, it is somehow deemed, ok.

As for the 'score' on this site, pick other testing mechanisms to base your opinion on, because IE will always fail to 'impress' when the 'tester' adds in non-standards to the baseline test.

This is also true of SunSpider - which is a test DESIGNED for the WebKit engine. IE will never 'best' a WebKit based browser, as the test is designed around what WebKit does. Which makes it an irrelevant and pointless test for non-WebKit browsers. When IE9 was in pre-beta, the results on SunSpider caused controversy, as it was doing its prediction and compiling, which on 'repeating' scripts with 'predicted' outcomes, it was processing them instantly rather than iterating through the script as WebKit is designed to do on the test. This gave IE9 a brilliant score as it was predicting past the recursive tests. So IE9 now doesn't use the things that make it fast when running the SunSpider tests, so it is also a highly inaccurate for comparative information.

Microsoft's IETestDrive site is more reflective of real world performance than many of the 'accepted' standard tests, and it is very much biased to IE's graphical strengths.

There are few tests that have comprehensive credibility, as they run arbitrary code that has little real world results.

thartist said,
Ok, couldn't you have had an idea without madly derailing?

Sometimes the good way to answer a question is not to provide an answer but to think about the question and what it implies.

Okay people, I'll admit it; I made a mistake, I was wrong.

The people claiming the EC should force Microsoft to completely remove every trace of IE from Windows were right, clearly MS lack the required level of intelligence for such responsibility.

Whatever, as long as IE10 will work on Windows 7, that's all good.
To be honest, it would be best for them to have as much backwards compatibility as possible.
It's depressing that IE9 doesn't install on Windows XP because us devs will have to support IE8 exclusively for much longer than we should really need to. It seems the same is going to happen now with IE9 and Vista, Microsoft aren't really helping us developers in this respect, I'm all for pushing users to upgrade and all but this isn't the right way.

"We will release an IE10 Beta and Release Candidate on Windows 7 prior to IE10's general availability."

IE posted this in a reply to their blog post. I guess we will have to wait a few months for a new IE10 build for windows 7

torrentthief said,
"We will release an IE10 Beta and Release Candidate on Windows 7 prior to IE10's general availability."

IE posted this in a reply to their blog post. I guess we will have to wait a few months for a new IE10 build for windows 7

At least their going to release it for win 7, it's no big deal if MS releases IE 10 for win7 couple of months later. With that amount of time they'll squash tons of bugs found in the win 8 version and have more html5 support. In the end IE 10 will be solid release.

Microsoft has completely lost any common sense. Just imagine: PREVIEW of the browser requires not even an alpha, but a DEVELOPER preview of the UNRELEASED operating system. I'm becoming more and more convinced that senior Microsoft technical managers are constantly on high.

lexp said,
Microsoft has completely lost any common sense. Just imagine: PREVIEW of the browser requires not even an alpha, but a DEVELOPER preview of the UNRELEASED operating system. I'm becoming more and more convinced that senior Microsoft technical managers are constantly on high.

No. The only person to have lost common sense is you. This particular preview version (it's not even in Beta yet) has been released solely to allow developers to develop and test full screen metro apps using the HTML 5 language. Hence the MS blog title of "HTML5 for Applications: The Fourth IE10 Platform Preview".

TCLN Ryster said,

No. The only person to have lost common sense is you. This particular preview version (it's not even in Beta yet) has been released solely to allow developers to develop and test full screen metro apps using the HTML 5 language. Hence the MS blog title of "HTML5 for Applications: The Fourth IE10 Platform Preview".

Sorry, but you're wrong. There is no excuse for this at all.

There are now 2 preview builds worth of engine changes that developers are completely unable to test against. The browser engine is the focus here, not some gimmick app platform.

They could easily release a version for 7, they're just trying to push this crappy Windows 8 shovelware down our throats.

TCLN Ryster said,

No. The only person to have lost common sense is you. This particular preview version (it's not even in Beta yet) has been released solely to allow developers to develop and test full screen metro apps using the HTML 5 language. Hence the MS blog title of "HTML5 for Applications: The Fourth IE10 Platform Preview".

Just compare number of web developers with number of these "Metro app" developers. I bet it'd be 1000 to 1. And I doubt this will change to even 10 : 1 in any foreseeable future: just look at what happened with their fancy Silverlight and WPF technologies that almost no one is using.

Microsoft lost the API war forever.

BoyBoppins said,
They would be crazy if this was a final product. They can do whatever they want with the PP.
I think you lost any common sense.

It just highlights their bad development practices when they are using unstable and non-proven APIs in the unreleased versions in their core products. And not just USING these API, they heavily depend on these APIs.

Athernar said,

Sorry, but you're wrong. There is no excuse for this at all.

There are now 2 preview builds worth of engine changes that developers are completely unable to test against. The browser engine is the focus here, not some gimmick app platform.

They could easily release a version for 7, they're just trying to push this crappy Windows 8 shovelware down our throats.

100% agree. The funny thing is that everyone knows that this "app platform" will go straight to the cemetery to join Silverlight, WPF, "XAML the new HTML", WINFS and other crap Microsoft tried to push in the last 10 years. However when it comes to really promising and POPULAR technologies like Windows XP theme engine (uxtheme.dll) they decided to not to push them and deprecate.

lexp said,
Microsoft has completely lost any common sense. Just imagine: PREVIEW of the browser requires not even an alpha, but a DEVELOPER preview of the UNRELEASED operating system. I'm becoming more and more convinced that senior Microsoft technical managers are constantly on high.

Microsoft hates when people find bugs in their software, and developers LOVE finding bugs. MS Solution: **** developers!, restrict and reduce the testing userbase by 10,000%, force them to install a 16gb vm. look ma! only 2 bugs reported by 2 users in IE10 on win8!

what a joke.

leeoniya said,

Microsoft hates when people find bugs in their software, and developers LOVE finding bugs. MS Solution: **** developers!, restrict and reduce the testing userbase by 10,000%, force them to install a 16gb vm. look ma! only 2 bugs reported by 2 users in IE10 on win8!

what a joke.


No. This is a PREVIEW, not a BETA. It's a preview of the technologies Microsoft are working on, not a release put out for bug testing.

I wonder if they plan on just not releasing the final version for windows 7 at all.? I can understand if they just want to get everything super nice for windows 8 and maybe have the win 7 version on the back burner but to just not release a windows 7 version of the preview is very telling. I really don't think its a good idea on Microsofts part to ignore Windows 7 this early seeing how its so popular.

Roxkis said,
I wonder if they plan on just not releasing the final version for windows 7 at all.? I can understand if they just want to get everything super nice for windows 8 and maybe have the win 7 version on the back burner but to just not release a windows 7 version of the preview is very telling. I really don't think its a good idea on Microsofts part to ignore Windows 7 this early seeing how its so popular.

<facepalm>

No.

Quote from MS's own blog: "We will release an IE10 Beta and Release Candidate on Windows 7 prior to IE10's general availability."

pffft!, I'm looking at the bottom of this page and see "pegasus HTML 5." So what's all the whooping and hollering about HTML5 anyway?

aren't there other webpage development standards other than HTML5? .ASP and work with CSS styles and more (I'm soo out of the webpage loop). Is there any reason to get on the HTML 5 bandwagon?

ChrisJ1968 said,
pffft!, I'm looking at the bottom of this page and see "pegasus HTML 5." So what's all the whooping and hollering about HTML5 anyway?

aren't there other webpage development standards other than HTML5? .ASP and work with CSS styles and more (I'm soo out of the webpage loop). Is there any reason to get on the HTML 5 bandwagon?

Wiki this stuff, you are conflating different things... You are comparing tires to engines to cars which are related, but are very different things and they all need each other.

Joey S said,
Some people on neowin were quite happy for XP users to get left behind with IE9. Not nice is it?

How true indeed. This will not make any difference at all to me.

Joey S said,
Some people on neowin were quite happy for XP users to get left behind with IE9. Not nice is it?

Oh dear Lord. Nobody is getting left behind. IE10 will be released on Windows 7.

This particular PLATFORM PREVIEW version (ie. pre-beta) is for developers to start working on and testing full-screen apps for Metro using HTML 5... it's not for the average Joe to play with. Hence why the blog post on the MS blog is titled "HTML5 for Applications: The Fourth IE10 Platform Preview"
Source: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/arc...-ie10-platform-preview.aspx

But don't let common sense get in the way of a good anti-Microsoft bash.

Edited by Ryster, Nov 30 2011, 12:58am :

Joey S said,
Some people on neowin were quite happy for XP users to get left behind with IE9. Not nice is it?

IE10 WILL run on Windows 7 when released.

Joey S said,
Some people on neowin were quite happy for XP users to get left behind with IE9. Not nice is it?

Well, Win7 users aren't left behind, just left behind on the developer preview.

And the reason XP was left behind was not a because 'Microsoft said so', it has to do with the XPDM technology in XP that cannot access the GPU like the WDDM does. Without the WDDM in XP's architectural model, it can't even run the DirectX software emulation technologies that IE9 drops back to on lower end GPUs.

XP wasn't left behind just to **** you off, it is because XP just can't handles the technologies used. It is just like DirectX10, XP doesn't have the WDDM, that DX10 needs for GPU technologies like the DMA processor, the RAM sharing, the GPU thread scheduling and other technologies of the WDM/WDDM that are based on technologies developed for the XBox 360 for fast and efficient graphical and GP-GPU computing concepts.

It isn't like MIcrosoft said 'screw XP', it was more like... For XP to be upgraded to support these features, it basically needs to have every file replaced with Vista/WIn7's version. At that point it stops being XP and is basically Windows 7 or Vista.

Surprised people really don't get this and just think it was some arbitrary decision to screw over their own users...

Wow...

thenetavenger said,

And the reason XP was left behind was not a because 'Microsoft said so', it has to do with the XPDM technology in XP that cannot access the GPU like the WDDM does...

Firefox uses Direct3D9 GPU accelerated rendering with XP without problems. What's Microsoft's excuse?

Joey S said,

Firefox uses Direct3D9 GPU accelerated rendering with XP without problems. What's Microsoft's excuse?

IE9 uses Direct2D, something Windows XP does not have.

Joey S said,

Firefox uses Direct3D9 GPU accelerated rendering with XP without problems. What's Microsoft's excuse?

Firefox does not accelerate content on WinXP, only compositing. Check your facts.

I'd really like more infos about the new Hardware Acceleration.

IE 10 x64 + better HWA + more HTML5 support... Sounds interesting!

Don't forget, the Final or even the official Beta, will both be available for Win7 ( not for Vista, though ).

And by the way, on the test we saw Chrome running with only 3FPS, latest Chromium runs the test normally with 60FPS. Fx is struggling a bit 40+ FPS. Probably they need to adjust or add something.

Edited by PC EliTiST, Nov 29 2011, 10:28pm :

They release IE10 on Windows7 or really **** off a ton of people. There is no reason at all to push Win7 to the side in place of Win8 when the added features of Win8 can be patched via service pack 2 to Windows 7. I don't plan on purchasing Win8 - but they do need to release many of the changes to it for windows 7 in a SP2 patch.

sava700 said,
They release IE10 on Windows7 or really **** off a ton of people. There is no reason at all to push Win7 to the side in place of Win8 when the added features of Win8 can be patched via service pack 2 to Windows 7. I don't plan on purchasing Win8 - but they do need to release many of the changes to it for windows 7 in a SP2 patch.

You're an idiot.

A Platform PREVIEW is not a beta and Microsoft can release it for whatever OS they want for all I care.

I also don't have trouble sleeping at night due to this news.

sava700 said,
They release IE10 on Windows7 or really **** off a ton of people. There is no reason at all to push Win7 to the side in place of Win8 when the added features of Win8 can be patched via service pack 2 to Windows 7. I don't plan on purchasing Win8 - but they do need to release many of the changes to it for windows 7 in a SP2 patch.

One word. No.

sava700 said,
They release IE10 on Windows7 or really **** off a ton of people. There is no reason at all to push Win7 to the side in place of Win8 when the added features of Win8 can be patched via service pack 2 to Windows 7. I don't plan on purchasing Win8 - but they do need to release many of the changes to it for windows 7 in a SP2 patch.

Wow...
1) IE10 will be available on Windows 7 *Reference Microsoft...
2) The IE10 preview is important for DEVELOPERS, and most DEVELOPERS are running Windows 8 for testing. It is also important as Windows 8 uses the IE10 engine for all the HTML5 aspects of Metro.
3) There is NO WAY to strap all the updates of Windows 8 on top of Windows 7. Windows 7's kernel is not quite to the level of Windows 8's kernel for handling some of the technologies, especially the evolution in the HAL that its coding is based on targeting.

Regard #3, just because the 'Metro' features of Win8 have been showcased and covered, does not mean these are the only changes to the OS. There are changes at every level from the HAL/Kernel/API Interface/Subsystems/Subsystem Interfaces/Subsystem Kernels, and on up...

These kinds of comment are probably meaning well, but are the result of not understanding the technology. It is just like XP to Vista, and people didn't understand the need of the WDM/WDDM for DX10 to work proberly, as the OS needed to have GPU RAM sharing and GPU thread scheduling like the XBox does, that XP cannot do. Or the Vista to Win7 transition, where people don't realize the granularity and core kernel changes in Windows 7 that are built on what Vista started but are a long ways from what Vista does.

OSes are not simple things, and I suppose Microsoft could release Windows 8 as a SP to Windows 7, but with every file being different and the entire operation of many parts of the OS being different, it isn't the same OS at all. Heck, we could call Windows 8, Win3.1 NT SP25 if you want, but it still has far more changes than a service pack and is a very different fork off the base NT code timeline.

ok I posted a comment about why is this Win8 only when previous test drives of IE10 where on Win7 also, and it got deleted? wtf?

I just don't get this strong HTML5 push... Seriously...

The standard isn't yet ratified and they are encouraging widespread usage? This is starting to remind me of the 802.11n fiasco though I'm sure this will end up a lot worse.

If they are so pro HTML5 then they should be working to get the standard finished, not encouraging the usage of a BETA specification

Frazell Thomas said,
I just don't get this strong HTML5 push... Seriously...

The standard isn't yet ratified and they are encouraging widespread usage? This is starting to remind me of the 802.11n fiasco though I'm sure this will end up a lot worse.

If they are so pro HTML5 then they should be working to get the standard finished, not encouraging the usage of a BETA specification

From what I've seen, there adopting the aspects of html 5 that proably won't change. It's things like trying to agree on a common video codex (H.264 variation or Google WebM) there bickering on.

Frazell Thomas said,
I just don't get this strong HTML5 push... Seriously..

Microsoft doesn't want to get left behind like it did for about a decade.

Frazell Thomas said,
I just don't get this strong HTML5 push... Seriously...

The standard isn't yet ratified and they are encouraging widespread usage? This is starting to remind me of the 802.11n fiasco though I'm sure this will end up a lot worse.

If they are so pro HTML5 then they should be working to get the standard finished, not encouraging the usage of a BETA specification

I do really see the push... Well as a web developer HTML 5 the least you want it, is for video. No, I mean literally, HTML5 brings many and many and many new features that are just worth a couple of words and it will save you several lines of JavaScript + the little addition that you know it can be safer than the code you write for it (in case a numeric validation form).

Frazell Thomas said,
I just don't get this strong HTML5 push... Seriously...

The standard isn't yet ratified and they are encouraging widespread usage? This is starting to remind me of the 802.11n fiasco though I'm sure this will end up a lot worse.

If they are so pro HTML5 then they should be working to get the standard finished, not encouraging the usage of a BETA specification

Asking for web standards to be finished before implemented just is not how it works, as the standards are always changing, and a lot of the changes are based on implemented works that fail to work as designed or have incomplete functionality.

This is why when people have yelled at Microsoft for not being 'standards compliant', there is a lot of ignorance, as IE5 & IE6 were the most standards compliant browsers when released, yet the standards continued to change outside of the scope of the IE implementations, breaking both IE and the sites that wrote code based on those standards. (This was a time when Sun and others had weight with the W3C, and were POed at Microsoft, rejecting any Microsoft input and purposely choosing the non-Microsoft methods just to screw over Microsoft. However it also screwed over web developers and users too.)

Right now the biggest problem is that even with 'standards' the browser are implementing things differently, as the IE team tried to point out to the world when IE9 was first showcased, as simple HTML5 and CSS3 standards as written didn't require or not require certain essential function features, like how SVG was handled outside of the graphic's original draw area to even how borders were displayed with 'standard' dash and dot definitions.

Web standards are ever changing, and will be a freaking mess possibly forever because of how the W3C works.

If you want the final HTML5 and CSS3, give it 10 years, it might be done by then, but also people will be working on variations of HTMl6,7,8 and CSS4,5,6...

PS, With regard to the breaking of standards and Sun and other's involvement in this movement, the evidence is there, as Microsoft did like Netscape and others at the time, that came up with new concepts, and submitted and implemented, but all of Microsoft stuff started getting thrown out around 1999-2001, with everything BUT Microsoft's contributions being accepted. Many of the base XHTML and other technology came from Microsoft and were originally rejected in this timeline, but later adopted after the 'anything but Microsoft' era had started to end.

Another example that is analogious to this was OpenXML and OpenDoc, as the consortium was set up to create and deliver an XML based standard for documents. Microsoft already had a complete working set, as Office 2000 had a full HTML/XML document format that was even the default 'save' format until Sun and others complained that Microsoft was trying to take over the Web, as users could just save a Word document that would be visible with any browser, and it would erode the web..

Then when Microsoft offered their XML document format to the group, Sun vetoed everything, and Microsoft even walked away from the group with a few not so nice public words by the participants calling what Sun was doing a circus to create disorder.

Ironically one reason the 'courts' had trouble accepting Microsoft Office XML standard, was Sun petitioned that it was not 'mature', all while knowing it had existed 5 years before the OpenDocument standard that Sun called 'mature' and was pushing.


There is so much politics in technology over the last 10-15 years it is amazing that any standard ever works anymore.

And Microsoft's policy is to keep their mouth shut, even when they take the heat for crap others are doing. Like IE5/6 and OpenXML, they could have exposed what Sun and Apple and others were doing that was just insane and actually caused end users and developers a lot of work just for the 'political' win the companies wanted to gain against Microsoft. (Reference even the NoDo WP7 update earlier this year, Microsoft kept quiet, and yet they had NOTHING to do with the delays or the problems, as we later found out these last couple of months.)


No kidding. I don't want to install Windows 8 Developer preview to run a platform preview for a web browser- unless there's some new Win 8 tech they're using, I can't see any technical reason why they couldn't release a version for Windows 7.

Not running Windows 8 as your main system yet? Why are you using an "old outdated operating system for losers"...at least according to Microsoft employees who troll the internet (while not disclosing that they work for Microsoft) in order to pressure people in to buying their software by creating a false sense of what people want. If they really cared about their customers they'd improve their software instead of destroying it and calling it better. We're talking about a company gone patent trolling (H.264 codec patent trolling with Apple and not supporting the HTML5 video element (no free codecs installed BY DEFAULT = not a supported feature for the follow-up trolls), taking I think $10 per every Android device sold, etc). To be objective though it looks like IE10 will catch up to the other browsers at least. This tablet crap has got to go though, very few people have actual legitimate reasons to use them, mostly graphic designers. Why copy Apple? If they released a dirty toilet people would buy it. People associate Apple with quality. I used to associate Microsoft with the PERSONAL in PC, now it's MC, Microsoft PC and I DON'T like anything Microsoft has done Vista, 7, and especially 8.

JAB Creations said,
Not running Windows 8 as your main system yet? Why are you using an "old outdated operating system for losers"...at least according to Microsoft employees who troll the internet (while not disclosing that they work for Microsoft) in order to pressure people in to buying their software by creating a false sense of what people want. If they really cared about their customers they'd improve their software instead of destroying it and calling it better. We're talking about a company gone patent trolling (H.264 codec patent trolling with Apple and not supporting the HTML5 video element (no free codecs installed BY DEFAULT = not a supported feature for the follow-up trolls), taking I think $10 per every Android device sold, etc). To be objective though it looks like IE10 will catch up to the other browsers at least.

I dont like feeding the trolls, but in replying I am in fact feeding the troll, dam!

JAB Creations said,
Not running Windows 8 as your main system yet? Why are you using an "old outdated operating system for losers"...at least according to Microsoft employees who troll the internet (while not disclosing that they work for Microsoft) in order to pressure people in to buying their software by creating a false sense of what people want. If they really cared about their customers they'd improve their software instead of destroying it and calling it better. We're talking about a company gone patent trolling (H.264 codec patent trolling with Apple and not supporting the HTML5 video element (no free codecs installed BY DEFAULT = not a supported feature for the follow-up trolls), taking I think $10 per every Android device sold, etc). To be objective though it looks like IE10 will catch up to the other browsers at least. This tablet crap has got to go though, very few people have actual legitimate reasons to use them, mostly graphic designers. Why copy Apple? If they released a dirty toilet people would buy it. People associate Apple with quality. I used to associate Microsoft with the PERSONAL in PC, now it's MC, Microsoft PC and I DON'T like anything Microsoft has done Vista, 7, and especially 8.

Ohh dear lord....

JAB Creations said,
Not running Windows 8 as your main system yet? Why are you using an "old outdated operating system for losers"...at least according to Microsoft employees who troll the internet (while not disclosing that they work for Microsoft) in order to pressure people in to buying their software by creating a false sense of what people want. If they really cared about their customers they'd improve their software instead of destroying it and calling it better. We're talking about a company gone patent trolling (H.264 codec patent trolling with Apple and not supporting the HTML5 video element (no free codecs installed BY DEFAULT = not a supported feature for the follow-up trolls), taking I think $10 per every Android device sold, etc). To be objective though it looks like IE10 will catch up to the other browsers at least. This tablet crap has got to go though, very few people have actual legitimate reasons to use them, mostly graphic designers. Why copy Apple? If they released a dirty toilet people would buy it. People associate Apple with quality. I used to associate Microsoft with the PERSONAL in PC, now it's MC, Microsoft PC and I DON'T like anything Microsoft has done Vista, 7, and especially 8.

Oh crap.

JAB Creations said,
Not running Windows 8 as your main system yet? Why are you using an "old outdated operating system for losers"...at least according to Microsoft employees who troll the internet (while not disclosing that they work for Microsoft) in order to pressure people in to buying their software by creating a false sense of what people want. If they really cared about their customers they'd improve their software instead of destroying it and calling it better. We're talking about a company gone patent trolling (H.264 codec patent trolling with Apple and not supporting the HTML5 video element (no free codecs installed BY DEFAULT = not a supported feature for the follow-up trolls), taking I think $10 per every Android device sold, etc). To be objective though it looks like IE10 will catch up to the other browsers at least. This tablet crap has got to go though, very few people have actual legitimate reasons to use them, mostly graphic designers. Why copy Apple? If they released a dirty toilet people would buy it. People associate Apple with quality. I used to associate Microsoft with the PERSONAL in PC, now it's MC, Microsoft PC and I DON'T like anything Microsoft has done Vista, 7, and especially 8.

Don't try so hard

JAB Creations said,
Not running Windows 8 as your main system yet? Why are you using an "old outdated operating system for losers"...at least according to Microsoft employees who troll the internet (while not disclosing that they work for Microsoft) in order to pressure people in to buying their software by creating a false sense of what people want. If they really cared about their customers they'd improve their software instead of destroying it and calling it better. We're talking about a company gone patent trolling (H.264 codec patent trolling with Apple and not supporting the HTML5 video element (no free codecs installed BY DEFAULT = not a supported feature for the follow-up trolls), taking I think $10 per every Android device sold, etc). To be objective though it looks like IE10 will catch up to the other browsers at least. This tablet crap has got to go though, very few people have actual legitimate reasons to use them, mostly graphic designers. Why copy Apple? If they released a dirty toilet people would buy it. People associate Apple with quality. I used to associate Microsoft with the PERSONAL in PC, now it's MC, Microsoft PC and I DON'T like anything Microsoft has done Vista, 7, and especially 8.

...and kids, this is what happens when you stop taking your medications.

Dot Matrix said,
Where is the Windows 7 version??????????

It's just this particular build; preview 2 runs on Windows 7, and so will the final release.

JAB Creations said,
Not running Windows 8 as your main system yet? Why are you using an "old outdated operating system for losers"...at least according to Microsoft employees who troll the internet (while not disclosing that they work for Microsoft) in order to pressure people in to buying their software by creating a false sense of what people want. If they really cared about their customers they'd improve their software instead of destroying it and calling it better. We're talking about a company gone patent trolling (H.264 codec patent trolling with Apple and not supporting the HTML5 video element (no free codecs installed BY DEFAULT = not a supported feature for the follow-up trolls), taking I think $10 per every Android device sold, etc). To be objective though it looks like IE10 will catch up to the other browsers at least. This tablet crap has got to go though, very few people have actual legitimate reasons to use them, mostly graphic designers. Why copy Apple? If they released a dirty toilet people would buy it. People associate Apple with quality. I used to associate Microsoft with the PERSONAL in PC, now it's MC, Microsoft PC and I DON'T like anything Microsoft has done Vista, 7, and especially 8.

Stop typing and step away from the keyboard.. you're liable to hurt yourself. oh yeah, btw.. go back to taking your meds

Microsoft trolls have absolutely nothing to counter the truth so what do they do? What any troll without credibility does: attack ignoring the valid points hoping that others agree. The sad part is most people agree with what I say. Whatever, IE has lost half it's market share and the Windows market share is starting to follow the same trend. Linux works great for regular users. Heck, LibreOffice opens files created in Word that word won't open and we're talking the same version. Keep up the attacks Microsoft because it will help to remind everyone else that your company and employees are outwardly hostile towards businesses and consumers alike.

JAB Creations said,
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Someone seems a little paranoid and delusional. What valid points have been raised? I haven't seen any valid points, at least none coming from you. I thought it to be a little harsh for people to make comments about medication but after your latest comment, it seems a bit fitting to assume one either stopped taking some or could use some.

JAB Creations said,
Not running Windows 8 as your main system yet? Why are you using an "old outdated operating system for losers"...at least according to Microsoft employees who troll the internet (while not disclosing that they work for Microsoft) in order to pressure people in to buying their software by creating a false sense of what people want. If they really cared about their customers they'd improve their software instead of destroying it and calling it better. We're talking about a company gone patent trolling (H.264 codec patent trolling with Apple and not supporting the HTML5 video element (no free codecs installed BY DEFAULT = not a supported feature for the follow-up trolls), taking I think $10 per every Android device sold, etc). To be objective though it looks like IE10 will catch up to the other browsers at least. This tablet crap has got to go though, very few people have actual legitimate reasons to use them, mostly graphic designers. Why copy Apple? If they released a dirty toilet people would buy it. People associate Apple with quality. I used to associate Microsoft with the PERSONAL in PC, now it's MC, Microsoft PC and I DON'T like anything Microsoft has done Vista, 7, and especially 8.

Not only is most of this person's insane rant inaccurate, but some are the exact opposite of reality...

Windows is one of the few OSes that treat Codecs as a base feature of the OS functionality, with a lot of included codecs in Windows 7paid for by Microsoft, to allow developers and end users get rights for full usage of even the more complex and insane royalty based codecs for free.

Which is the opposite of the freaking rant...

Estienne Taylor said,

Download Windows 8 Developer Preview and test it out. It's really cool!

I had the DP in a VM for like a week. I wanna wait until the beta to install it to an actual machine. Most likely, my HP laptop.

WickedScribbler said,

Why hell Lunix user. Now hush and let adults talk.

He sounds like the many (dis) satisfied Android customers. /sarcasm

NateB1 said,
No kidding. I don't want to install Windows 8 Developer preview to run a platform preview for a web browser- unless there's some new Win 8 tech they're using, I can't see any technical reason why they couldn't release a version for Windows 7.

Just be patient.