Windows 8 overtakes Android in web traffic

 

Windows 8 launched on the 26th of October so it’s only been on the market for a couple of weeks but StatCounter is reporting it has already surpassed Android when in comes to internet traffic.

StatCounter aggregates data from a variety of sources, and as you can see in the image above they are saying there are more users surfing the web on Windows 8 than on Android devices. Of course that isn’t a big surprise, as the potential user base for Windows 8 is huge, but even so it’s pretty impressive for an OS that’s only 2 weeks old.

As for Microsoft, the only thing they’ve said is that they had sold 4 million copies of their new OS but that was only four days after launch. If StatCounter data is to be believed that means sales are strong and perhaps have even accelerated. Next up, overtaking iOS which according to Microsoft-News will happen in about a month's time bringing into question the whole "post pc era" mantra.

What about you folks, have you upgraded to Windows 8 or are you holding off? Let us know below.

Source: Microsoft-News | Image courtesy of Microsoft-News

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Whoever made this graph should go work for Karl Rove. It is grossly misleading.

StatCounter tracks statistics for, among other things, Operating Systems and Mobile Operating Systems.
The Operating Systems data tracks ALL OSes, whether it be desktop, mobile, server (SunOS), gaming (Playstation), webtop (WebTV anyone?). Here, as one might expect, Windows 7 is king with 52.72% of the share. iOS has 2.85%, Windows 8 *DESKTOP* has 0.71%, Android has 0.56%, and Windows 8 *RT* has 0%.
Source: http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-daily-20121105-20121107

If you look at mobile OSes, there is no comparison. Android and iOS dominate with 56% of the market; Windows Phone has 0.76%, XP 0.31%, 7 0.6%.
Source: http://gs.statcounter.com/#mob...daily-20121108-20121108-bar

So whether intentionally or not, whoever created this graph is trying to analyze a tiny percentage of the OS market (~5%). And if you're going to do what, why not lump in gaming systems while you're at it, since Windows 8 is also beating Playstation (0.17%)?

I think this article or the original is actually being a bit to one sided for my liking. Not far off 1% of the traffic statcounter logs was coming from windows 8. Maybe this is true, but i would imagine that the sites monitored are ones like Facebook, Twitter, etc, which have there own dedicated apps. Don`t get me wrong 8 is a great OS for the tablet and i`m sure it will be successful if the eco system grows. Just for me it doesn`t bring enough extra to the table to be used on my desktop as my everyday OS. I have a copy of it on a hard drive and have used all the versions, it just doesn`t float my boat.
Also if i`m out and about and wan`t to access a website i use my phone, if i`m near a pc i will use that, i couldn`t care less what OS it`s using

I find it a bit unbelievable. Are we sure that they are not talking about a particular version of Android?

People seem to be missing a major point here when saying that its a bad comparison, I mean its true that comparing PC sales (desktop/laptop/notebook/tablet) to mobile only OS numbers (Android) can seem a little strange, this is due to the fact that MS is playing a different strategy than the other 2 (apple and google). MS have created a single OS that spans all these devices with windows phone 8 being slightly different but using the same core code.

Every single windows 8 device has access to the windows store, every app you buy on the store can be installed for your user account on any windows 8 device you ever use, pay once use on all. its a per user purchase method and for anyone that has more than one windows 8 device its a very nice feeling that spending a little money on an app allows you to use it on all your windows 8 devices.

These stats will matter a great deal to developers, as every copy of windows 8 has access to the store, these numbers represent potential customers of windows store apps. Think what you like, but developers will flock to this platform now that these stats are showing positive signs, and that will have a massive knock on effect on the whole ecosystem.

I mean....seriously?

You are comparing a full blown desktop OS with a Mobile OS in terms of web trafffic?

SERIOUSLY!!

Rabimba said,
I mean....seriously?

You are comparing a full blown desktop OS with a Mobile OS in terms of web trafffic?

SERIOUSLY!!


Windows 8 is a mobile OS my friend.

If you haven't noticed.

lexp said,
Those Win8 machines sitting on the shelves in stores update themselves like crazy )))

By generating unique hits across the web. Yep.

The most likely explanation is that the majority of Android users visits most websites through the apps available, something that doesn't get counted in these stats as they only count pageview from within the browser.

There are tons of good apps for Android. The only websites I visit on my phone through the browsers are Neowin and Tweakers.net - everything else is through the apps.

Since there are hardly any good apps with full functionality out there for Windows 8 for now it's quite likely that it overtakes Android in pageviews. People also click around a lot more on a desktop browser.

Also, almost all new PC's are already being sold with Windows 8 (at least as far as I have seen). It's a desktop OS and there isn't much else to do aside surf. This only makes sense really.

Exactly. Each and every website should only be accessed through an app. I'd love to fill my device with thousands of them. Who needs a web browser anyway. /S

eddman said,
Exactly. Each and every website should only be accessed through an app. I'd love to fill my device with thousands of them. Who needs a web browser anyway. /S

Well there are many sites without a good mobile site that just are better through an app. And it's not like you visit thousands of websites through your phone is it?

How is that possible? Android has over 500M devices in peoples hands right now. I am sure many of them surf the web on their devices. How is it Windows 8 can pass it already? Also how can Apple represent so much more than Android with less devices sold vs Android?

Can someone explain?

Well first you have to make sure their methodology is even accurate. For one thing, what if statcounter's tracking system isn't deployed on as many mobile websites as on regular desktop websites? Android devices would mostly be getting mobile version of a website so they may be going untracked, since most mobile sites are stripped down or even handled by a third party.

The majority of Windows 8 devices at the moment will be getting desktop webistes so they could be tracking them better.

Then also compare the usage. I've been sitting at my desktop for 9 hours today. Right now I have four browser windows open, each with around 6 tabs. According to the battery usage on my Galaxy S3, I've used Chrome for 25 minutes today. All in all, it wouldn't be out of the question to estimate I've had about 50x more page views on my desktop than on my mobile.

Possible answers? Is statcounter really capturing mobile web traffic accurately? And is their capture rate even comparable to their desktop capture rate? And people spend alot more time sitting at a desktop than on their phones/tablets.

If is it a pure OS to OS compare, then it makes sense. maybe only 1% of Android devices surf the web (screen to small, crappy hardware, terrible data plans), while the Windows OS is optimized out of the box for web traffic. But this is of little value from a statistical point of view because I can't deduct any conclusion from it. Like the others have said, people who use apps are most likely not counted. an IOS vs Android vs WinPhone would make more sense. But the laptop/desktop/servers (and soon to be hybrids and tablets) belong to Windows

While I really like Windows 8 tablets and am looking very much forward to upgrading my PC's Win7 installation, I can't be the only one here thinking that comparing web traffic from an OS that is available on 4 different product types - Phones, Tablets, PC's, and Laptops (with desktops and laptops being a huge portion of the total) to a "mobile only" OS is not exactly comparing apples to apples.

Whatever the experts say, the post PC era is not here. You simply can't do complicated tasks (at home or the office) via touch only.

solarus said,
While I really like Windows 8 tablets and am looking very much forward to upgrading my PC's Win7 installation, I can't be the only one here thinking that comparing web traffic from an OS that is available on 4 different product types - Phones, Tablets, PC's, and Laptops (with desktops and laptops being a huge portion of the total) to a "mobile only" OS is not exactly comparing apples to apples.

Whatever the experts say, the post PC era is not here. You simply can't do complicated tasks (at home or the office) via touch only.

That's because you're reading it wrong. Theer are over 500M Android devices out there. In just 3 weeks Windows 8 traffic has past it. Microsoft says they only sold about 4M copies of Windows 8 in a short time, then count all the tablets. They haven't sold 400M yet, but the traffic is high.

I have a GS3 and I use it quite a bit to surf. I rarely use my desktop at home since I got it and even tho the screen is smaller than the iPad we have in the house, I prefer browsing on my Android vs using the iPad. But at work, I use my PC for everything and I love using IE10. Its been flawless. Under Windows 7, I got so sick if IE9 not working I actually installed Chrome and started to like it, even over Firefox which is what I was using when IE9 had issues. Even tho I still have Chrome as a backup on my Windows 8 install, I have not installed FF and I rarely use Chrome. IE10 is kicking butt and that is all I am using until it has an issue.

Windows 8 is a hit no matter what Apple says about MS selling a confusing device. Yes it is bec MS didn't really inform buyers that RT isn't the full OS unless used on a desktop or laptop until tablets appear with Pro installed. The confusion is Windows 8 Pro is avail in stores and it looks essentially like Windows 8 RT. MS needs to really clarify. However, its nothing that reading the box wont solve. Just that most people can't read obviously.

everybody with half a brain knew windows 8 was going to trash android easily. and we're just getting started. these numbers are a good sign but they really don't tell how badly android is going to lose in the tablet space to a superior full operating system with decades of excellent x86/win32 ecosystem support. no matter how good google is, they don't stand a chance at re-creating the x86/win32 platform success.

IT IS GAME OVER FOR ANDROID.

Colin McGregor said,
lol the android sheep are butthurt soooo bad from this article look at them go lol

Well no. Android users don't need to visit websites since they can just use proper apps that work better on a touch-centered device.

You know, apps, those things companies can make to give users a better experience on a certain platform. Those things that are hardly available for Windows 8 so users don't have a choice but just have to use the websites?

Ambroos said,

Well no. Android users don't need to visit websites since they can just use proper apps that work better on a touch-centered device.

You know, apps, those things companies can make to give users a better experience on a certain platform. Those things that are hardly available for Windows 8 so users don't have a choice but just have to use the websites?

Windows 8 has apps and an app store. Just sayin.

Ambroos said,

Well no. Android users don't need to visit websites since they can just use proper apps that work better on a touch-centered device.

You know, apps, those things companies can make to give users a better experience on a certain platform. Those things that are hardly available for Windows 8 so users don't have a choice but just have to use the websites?


I wonder whether Neowin ever would give at least Android and iOS users this benefit... *cough*

GS:ios

soonerproud said,

Windows 8 has apps and an app store. Just sayin.


With apps I mean big things from popular websites like Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, LinkedIn, ... As long as there aren't official apps for those sites (which are amongst the most popular on the internet) of course web traffic is going to be high since you have to resort to the websites to get to them (or third-party apps like MetroTwit).

Ambroos said,

With apps I mean big things from popular websites like Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, LinkedIn, ... As long as there aren't official apps for those sites (which are amongst the most popular on the internet) of course web traffic is going to be high since you have to resort to the websites to get to them (or third-party apps like MetroTwit).

These apps are coming so in the near future. Another thing you have overlooked is apps do use bandwidth to operate and they rely on the built in web browser to work properly, especially HTML 5 apps.

Not really news. I browse a lot more on my desktop than I do on my phone. With multiple tabs, faster speeds and just faster browsing people are bound to browser more sites on a desktop then a phone. Now if you have unique visitors across the statcounter network, that would be a more useful story but still comparing apples to oranges.

So? iOS seems waste more bandwidth than Android. Why does it surprise anybody that Windows wastes bandwidth needlessly as well?

a.mcdear said,
So? iOS seems waste more bandwidth than Android. Why does it surprise anybody that Windows wastes bandwidth needlessly as well?

It's not bandwidth. It's website hits. More people are actually going to websites on Windows 8 than they are with Android.

Maybe it is because people leave the Win8 PC on all day and all night and it is secretly viewing the web just to increase the numbers?? It could happen!

I have an Android tablet (Motorola Xoom) and a Windows 8 laptop, I browse the web with Windows 8 (windows 7 before that), searching for something using the tablet is just a waste of time.

I upgraded, lol, yeah sure, after ditching most metro apps, using start8, and booting directly to desktop, faster than 7, hehe

Does the web traffic include activities such as torrenting, file downloads, netflix and other streaming services? If so, then it's no surprise as I can rip through at least 100 times the amount of bandwidth on a notebook or pc than I do on my phone.

betadog said,
Does the web traffic include activities such as torrenting, file downloads, netflix and other streaming services? If so, then it's no surprise as I can rip through at least 100 times the amount of bandwidth on a notebook or pc than I do on my phone.

It's website hits; so torrent bandwidth doesn't count.

betadog said,
Does the web traffic include activities such as torrenting, file downloads, netflix and other streaming services? If so, then it's no surprise as I can rip through at least 100 times the amount of bandwidth on a notebook or pc than I do on my phone.

The graph is measuring unique users, not bandwidth consumed.

I don't think its all that surprising, For one thing people tend to use apps more on mobile devices which is going to cut a huge chunk out of that. I mean twitter, facebook & reddit alone probably make a sizeable dent.

Additionally, i tend not to browse the web on my phone anywhere near as much as i do on my pc/laptop. That doesn't mean i don't use my phone though.

laserfloyd said,
Does this mean that the majority of Android devices don't even make it onto the web? That's an interesting statistic.

Since most Android devices are on smartphones, people use Apps than websites. Due to small screens, users prefer an app over its website for faster use. This is not the case with Windows 8. Since there are very little apps on the Store AND that Windows 8 on PCs are PERFECT for today's web, more people will continue to use the web on Windows PCs than on Android smartphones.

I don't know why, but I get a strong feeling that 8 can also be installed on desktops, laptops, and other PCs as a full operating system and comes pre-installed on OEM computers and has more share in more form factors. So I can't imagine how in anyway more people are using Windows than Android.

Panda X said,
I don't know why, but I get a strong feeling that 8 can also be installed on desktops, laptops, and other PCs as a full operating system and comes pre-installed on OEM computers and has more share in more form factors. So I can't imagine how in anyway more people are using Windows than Android.

You forget that Android runs on phones, Win 8 does not. Theres already hundreds of millions of Android phones out there, and yet Win 8 has still managed to overtake it in web traffic within 3 weeks of release. Thats just insane.

NoClipMode said,

You forget that Android runs on phones, Win 8 does not. Theres already hundreds of millions of Android phones out there, and yet Win 8 has still managed to overtake it in web traffic within 3 weeks of release. Thats just insane.

Windows 8 does run on phones. The IE10 browser in Windows 8 is exactly the same as the one on the phone. Same happened with Windows Phone 7. IE9 on Wp7 is the same as the IE9 on the desktop. Runs awesome even on a pocket sized device.

I can say IE10 has been a pleasure to use while IE9 in my case was not. I already upgraded my most used laptop to 8, I will do my desktop next.

TechieXP said,
Windows 8 does run on phones. The IE10 browser in Windows 8 is exactly the same as the one on the phone. Same happened with Windows Phone 7. IE9 on Wp7 is the same as the IE9 on the desktop. Runs awesome even on a pocket sized device.

I can say IE10 has been a pleasure to use while IE9 in my case was not. I already upgraded my most used laptop to 8, I will do my desktop next.

But WP7 doesnt have IE10 and WP8 has just been released/is about to be released. Even if it has been fully rolled out worldwide, those small numbers are nothing compared to all the Android phones out there.

And even if you count W8 and WP8 as one platform then those numbers are stil impressive. In the long run you'd expect W8 to overtake Android but so soon, thats impressive.

TechieXP said,
Windows 8 does run on phones. The IE10 browser in Windows 8 is exactly the same as the one on the phone.

Irrelevant.

The IE10 browser on WP8 is reported differently to IE10 on Win 8. This is called the User Agent and it's something that the browser sends to a site in order for the site to know what browser is being used. So these results WONT include phones running WP8.

ThePitt said,
thats because they spy and take more data than google, thats why

What? Who? StatCounter? They're a web reporting company. And to be honest, I doubt seriously they spy or collect data more than the Googlemonster.

GreyWolf said,

What? Who? StatCounter? They're a web reporting company. And to be honest, I doubt seriously they spy or collect data more than the Googlemonster.

Just curious why does Google wants to track people? Who they sell the data to and why they need the data? Why does others even want to care about you?

tanjiajun_34 said,
Just curious why does Google wants to track people? Who they sell the data to and why they need the data? Why does others even want to care about you?

Main revenue source for Google is advertising. By tracking they can serve better targeted ads and command better price. They don't have to sell the data.

pmshah said,

Main revenue source for Google is advertising. By tracking they can serve better targeted ads and command better price. They don't have to sell the data.

And why does people feel their privacy invaded?

Until Surface Pro and Pro-running devices from other companies are out, it tells nothing as in "nada". I'm writing it in Spanish, so that you see exactly how exquisitely nothing it is.
You would do well to remove this sensationalist piece of carp from front page news.

Phouchg said,
Until Surface Pro and Pro-running devices from other companies are out, it tells nothing as in "nada". I'm writing it in Spanish, so that you see exactly how exquisitely nothing it is.
You would do well to remove this sensationalist piece of carp from front page news.

Um, "Surface Pro" devices from other companies are already available, they are called laptops and desktops.

nohone said,

Um, "Surface Pro" devices from other companies are already available, they are called laptops and desktops.


Which, conversely, belong to a form factor that does not run Android (with exception of some esoteric carp no one's ever heard of).

So what are we comparing after all? Nothing, I tell you. Just because Windows 8 has been heavily steered towards mobility devices means sh*t if anything here. I'd bet Windows 7 beats all other systems together at the moment. Guess what - not much, but some of them are mobile devices - HP Slate, Vpad10, S1081... and because we do not know exactly how much, it also means sh*t if anything.

Phouchg said,

Which, conversely, belong to a form factor that does not run Android (with exception of some esoteric carp no one's ever heard of).

So what are we comparing after all? Nothing, I tell you. Just because Windows 8 has been heavily steered towards mobility devices means sh*t if anything here. I'd bet Windows 7 beats all other systems together at the moment. Guess what - not much, but some of them are mobile devices - HP Slate, Vpad10, S1081... and because we do not know exactly how much, it also means sh*t if anything.

Over the past couple years, we see devices such as the iPad lumped in with desktops to compare in total sales (iPad sales + Apple desktop/laptop sales > manufacturer X computers sold). We get all kinds of comparisons of data used on phones compared to full computers; such as how the amount of data used on mobile devices is growing faster than on full computers. Claims of the PC era being over, and the tablet era has begun. Microsoft is doomed because Apple/Android is taking over. All kinds of combinations and twisting of stats and figures are used to compare product X to Windows. And all of that is fine, as long as it supposedly shows Windows in decline. But once a comparison is made that shows that this is not true, then the comparisons once used are no longer valid, it is not fair to compare them, and doesn't mean anything.

Phouchg said,
Until Surface Pro and Pro-running devices from other companies are out, it tells nothing as in "nada". I'm writing it in Spanish, so that you see exactly how exquisitely nothing it is.
You would do well to remove this sensationalist piece of carp from front page news.

Microsoft has committed itself to the hybrid market as the future of computers. Apple and Google clearly feel different about that. With tablets on the rise and phones overtaking PCs as the primary computing device in many parts of the world, there is a lot at stake here.

Many expected (and expect) this computing revolution to be the downfall of Microsoft. They believe one OS for multiple formfactors is doomed to fail, making Windows 8 a failure on both the PC, tablet and hybrid market.

So of course everybody wants to see sale figures. We dont have those so these kind of lead indicators will have to do. Android has sold millions upon millions so overtaking Android's web traffic is a sign that Windows 8 is being succesful in at least one formfactor.

Ronnet said,

phones overtaking PCs as the primary computing device in many parts of the world

No, they aren't. Tablets and convertible laptops will take over in time, but phone is a secondary device and shall remain as such.

eddman said,
Aren't there supposed to be more than 500 million android devices out there?

Yeah, something doesn't add up to the android units out there if Windows 8 has already surpassed its traffic.. I mean sure, a lot of mobile users prefer mobile apps but come on, aren't there supposed to be 100+ million tablets too?

I have 3 Android tablets that sit on a shelf now that I have a Surface. I think alot of those tablets sold are in the same predicament.

As for the number of Android Phones sold... They're replaced at least every two years. If you are counting the number of devices since Android's emergence on the market as being sold since then, It's probably less than 300 million active devices.

spudtrooper said,

Yeah, something doesn't add up to the android units out there if Windows 8 has already surpassed its traffic.. I mean sure, a lot of mobile users prefer mobile apps but come on, aren't there supposed to be 100+ million tablets too?

eddman said,
Aren't there supposed to be more than 500 million android devices out there?

Yes 500 million of EL CHEAPO UGLIEST AND ********* EVER phones that noone can think of use to more than make bad quality calls. Android is the new featurephone os.

eddman said,
Aren't there supposed to be more than 500 million android devices out there?

A large part of that is crapware, older versions sold on unfit hardware that isn't up to the task to surf with ease. Owners of such devices dont buy smartphones for their full functionality, having touch appears to be the main reason for those that but low-end devices. So the 500 (apparantly) sold Android devices arent all heavy users. On top of that its crapware that gets replaced so the number stil active is up in the air.

Whereas Windows 8 is purchased by early buyers, people who often get the most out of their devices. It does seem a big off that this number now already matches the heavy Android users but even if slighly inaccurate, it does say something about the future. If there are indeed so many WIndows 8 users then word of mouth will do the rest.

eddman said,
Aren't there supposed to be more than 500 million android devices out there?

A lot of which were probably bought and used as if they were just another feature/dumb phone.

iguanas said,

Yes 500 million of EL CHEAPO UGLIEST AND ********* EVER phones that noone can think of use to more than make bad quality calls. Android is the new featurephone os.

Fool, have a look at the recent releases from Sony for example, each and every one of them is a really good phone for it's price with heaps of features - far beyond what Windows Phone and even iOS have to offer.

eddman said,
Aren't there supposed to be more than 500 million android devices out there?

But many of those Android phones are the cheap low cost Huawei/ZTE devices which are sold to people on prepaid plans who rarely visit websites on their mobile phone. Hence the biggest problem I have with people who boast about Android numbers as if it some how represents potential user base or people actually visiting websites from their phones.

Mr Nom Nom's said,

But many of those Android phones are the cheap low cost Huawei/ZTE devices which are sold to people on prepaid plans who rarely visit websites on their mobile phone. Hence the biggest problem I have with people who boast about Android numbers as if it some how represents potential user base or people actually visiting websites from their phones.

You are right AND wrong. It is not necessarily the potential user but one of economics and convenience. I am a retired person. I hva an Android phone, a Blackberry phone and a 24/7 on and internet connected desktop PC. Except for getting BBC news on line or upgrading my installed application I have no need to brows on my phone. I use Android phone for international voice calls and text messages thru wifi on applications like viber / whatsApp apart from normal mobile telephony ! For all my other internet based applications like email, skype and general browsing I revert to my desktop PC with 26 " TV as monitor and full sized keyboard and mouse.

BTW the largest application on my Android phone is only 3 mb ( net traffic wise) which is small as compared to applications on Windows based PCs. So it is certainly not surprising about the traffic trends. What I would really like to see are the number of internet connected devices which make up this traffic. It would also be interesting to compare the page sizes delivered by the sites to a Windows based PCs and mobile devices. That should be revealing.

BTW for the price of even a second rung mobile phone I can get a really powerful all inclusive desktop system with ALL the functionality except for those applications that are served up only for the mobile devices.

Windows8 is moving millions of units.. not sure why this is surprising to anyone.. The only reason its not moving faster is the VAR's / OEMs have been late to the game getting hardware out there

spudtrooper said,
Windows8 is moving millions of units.. not sure why this is surprising to anyone.. The only reason its not moving faster is the VAR's / OEMs have been late to the game getting hardware out there

Because google is spamming with their bs news of 1 million android phones activated daily,. which is false.

If you are a developer for android, there is a good reason why you should prioritize windows 8 now.

The Laughing Man said,
Why do I feel as if this is comparing apples to pumpkins...

Maybe because Microsoft just made cinamon apple pumpkin pie and turned the concept of mobile os on its face?

spudtrooper said,

Maybe because Microsoft just made cinamon apple pumpkin pie and turned the concept of mobile os on its face?


Booyah! This is exactly correct.