+Red King Subscriber² Posted March 27, 2017 Subscriber² Share Posted March 27, 2017 Quote Berkeley killing renews debate over gender pronouns Associated Press | March 26, 2017 BERKELEY, Calif. (AP) — Pablo Gomez Jr. was a University of California, Berkeley, senior majoring in Latino studies and a prominent campus activist when authorities say he stabbed to death a popular elementary-school teacher. Soon, the crime that police described as "very brutal and unusual" in a city that reported just two homicides last year was sucked up into the debate over gender identity when it was reported that Gomez preferred to be called "they" rather than "he." https://www.yahoo.com/news/berkeley-killing-renews-debate-over-gender-pronouns-145308342.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 From the article "Dragged Gomez kicking and screaming from the court room", I would say this person is insane, so am quite happy to ignore their choice of gender pronoun. He's a loon. ramesees, Circaflex, margrave and 4 others 7 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmeunit Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 It's getting a little ridiculous. I can understand he/she and swapping those, but you shouldn't be offended if someone can't tell or doesn't know. All the others are just ludicrous. jnelsoninjax and Dick Montage 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Biscuits Brown MVC Posted March 28, 2017 MVC Share Posted March 28, 2017 Exactly how is 'they' a gender pronoun? He can prefer to be called her or she can refer him, but 'they'? Makes no sense. farmeunit 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
margrave Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Wanted to be called "they" huh. So maybe this is just Legion in a new host? =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted March 28, 2017 Supervisor Share Posted March 28, 2017 While I was at university I grew my hair out, all the way down my back. The number of times I would have someone behind me say, "excuse me, miss?" I didn't give it a second thought, how were they supposed to know from the information they had? Even if someone tried to call me a girl as an insult, I'd still probably just be puzzled about why they think I would take offence to the idea. If you refer to yourself as a non-standard gender so that you can feel like an individual then by all means, go for it. But if someone wants me to refer to them as wolf-kin or spaghetti-kin then I will laugh at them and want nothing more to do with them as they are surely mentally unstable. And as if to prove the point, this guy stabbed someone because they referred to him as "he" and not "they." That is not the action of a sane person, that is the action of a lunatic. Circaflex and timster 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I want to refer to myself this way - that's great and liberalists will rejoice and we will all be happy. But don't expect me, someone who doesn't know you to somehow know what to call you. That would be presumptive on my part timster 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Moderator Posted March 28, 2017 Moderator Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) "they" is a pronoun that refers to both men and women. It does sound like a plural noun, but it also pertains to that. My friends had a discussion on this a few months ago. But IMO, I think he is taking this out of context... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I find "they" offensive. It dehumanises to a level, as gender is part of the human experience. While I recognise the right to assume a gender of a person's own alignment (I don't agree, but I respect the choice), I will not have my words dictated for me. ramesees, farmeunit and Jim K 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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