Pilsbury Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 Pilsbury: Is it really that much zippier than the stock HD? Standard is a 2MB cache 4200RPM drive, so, yes it is... I reckon boot time dropped by a good 30 - 40%. There's also 7200RPM Hitachi 2.5" drives out that should be faster again, although, they 'only' have 8MB cache Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1172303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron901 Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 does a faster harddrive eat more battery or generate more heat? if i were to get the new 15" PB, do you reckon i should for the 4200rpm or 5400rpm? battery life is my main concern. edit: does anyone know how fast is the hdd in the old 1GHz 15" TiBook? :unsure: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1172311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey55 Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 Did you max out the ram? if you did that would account for the 4-6 weeks delay, you might be better of ordering it with the standard amout of ram and upgrading it yourself, it would be a lot cheaper and you would only wait 3-5 days instead. Also you should order it through the apple education store save a few hundred ?s, they never check if you are a teacher or student. I din't max out the RAM, but i got 1Gb on 1Dimm so i can buy another dimm and get approx 1.5gb when it arrives. I bought my PB through the HE education store which works through my uni, so it's really cheap, even got myself an ipod. Don't mind waiting 4-6 weeks cos it'll hopefully arrive day before my birthday. umes Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1172318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizza Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 Leif, the new PowerBooks were just announced. you're not gonna see any benchmarks this quick. Here are some benchmarks :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1172341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macster Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 does a faster harddrive eat more battery or generate more heat? if i were to get the new 15" PB, do you reckon i should for the 4200rpm or 5400rpm? battery life is my main concern.edit: does anyone know how fast is the hdd in the old 1GHz 15" TiBook? :unsure: The old ones are 4200 RPM 5400RPM drives do run a little hotter and use up more power But the performance boost is good too Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1172361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDreamX Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 I agree with some of the others here about not being much of an upgrade for exisiting users. I have a Ti 15" @ 867mhz that works great. Only downer is no superdrive - I was cheap and didnt feel like spending the extra money. Also, I saw a few of you talking about removing the superdrive... If you dont want it, maybe we can do a trade for normal CD/DVD combo????? hehe BTW, does any know if you can get a backlit keyboard for a Ti PB and install it yourself? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1172371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 I agree with some of the others here about not being much of an upgrade for exisiting users. I have a Ti 15" @ 867mhz that works great. Only downer is no superdrive - I was cheap and didnt feel like spending the extra money. Also, I saw a few of you talking about removing the superdrive... If you dont want it, maybe we can do a trade for normal CD/DVD combo????? heheBTW, does any know if you can get a backlit keyboard for a Ti PB and install it yourself? I am pretty sure the design and structure is totally different than the TI, so there is no way to make the backlit keyboard work. Where would you even plug it in to? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1172857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.b Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 Congratulations varekai2- have fun with your new PB :laugh: Another one joins the initiated :alien: Thanks. :) I cannot wait until I get it. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1172923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 dang.. i'm sooo tempted to get a new one.. the backlit keyboard is soooo wicked. and i'm just kinda sick of bringing my d-link bluetooth adapter with me all the time.. and with all the extra...what do you guys think?? I think you are fooling yourself, and you know already you are going to get one. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1174170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_rv Posted September 19, 2003 Author Share Posted September 19, 2003 I guess Aaron just needs a little encouragement. I say get it :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1174317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron901 Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 hahaha.. you all know me well :D i'll see how much i can get on ebay.. if the price is good, then i'll join you guys! :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1174659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron901 Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 question! does the combo drive generate less heat? and will i get more battery life if i go with the combo drive? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1174844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 hahaha.. you all know me well :Di'll see how much i can get on ebay.. if the price is good, then i'll join you guys! :D Told you so... :p About the combo, I am pretty sure that it does not generate less heat. You will get more life because you won't be burning DVD's, but other than that, it is the same. EDIT: asked stupid question, deleted it. :whistle: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1175035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Player Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 GOD I want one...but with such a kick ass desktop *hugs computer* I dont really need one...Maybe a few years down the road when I'm travelling alot again... I still want one though :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1175057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron901 Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 Told you so... :p About the combo, I am pretty sure that it does not generate less heat. You will get more life because you won't be burning DVD's, but other than that, it is the same. EDIT: asked stupid question, deleted it. :whistle: lol :laugh: another stupid question :D does more ram eat more battery? :D is 512MB DDR RAM enough? :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1175212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_rv Posted September 19, 2003 Author Share Posted September 19, 2003 Gary, nice to hear you want a PB :-) I say the more the merrier! It might actually do you good to wait a bit before getting one- maybe Apple would have the next revisions ready. In that case, we'd be bugging you for pics :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1175239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
unspec Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 Told you so... :p About the combo, I am pretty sure that it does not generate less heat. You will get more life because you won't be burning DVD's, but other than that, it is the same. EDIT: asked stupid question, deleted it. :whistle: lol :laugh: another stupid question :D does more ram eat more battery? :D is 512MB DDR RAM enough? :) Not a stupid question at all. Maxing the RAM should improve battery life. The reall killer is paging out the hard disk, with the maximum ammount of RAM installed in the machine, this is reduced. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1175304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron901 Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 Told you so...?:pp About the combo, I am pretty sure that it does not generate less heat. You will get more life because you won't be burning DVD's, but other than that, it is the same. EDIT: asked stupid question, deleted it.?:whistle:e: lol:laugh:h: another stupid questio:D:D does more ram eat more battery:D:D is 512MB DDR RAM enough?:):) Not a stupid question at all. Maxing the RAM should improve battery life. The reall killer is paging out the hard disk, with the maximum ammount of RAM installed in the machine, this is reduced. thanks mate!:):) i thought more ram will draw more battery and reduce the time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1175432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxBoy Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 (edited) man, now i'm really tempted to get one.. :shifty: EDIT/UPDATE: what would be the CHEAPEST/BEST route to getting one? I want the 15" Edited September 19, 2003 by BxBoy Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1175446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_rv Posted September 20, 2003 Author Share Posted September 20, 2003 BxBoy: I really thought somebody would've answered your question by now- I guess this thread has lost its steam. Oh well, it was a great run for my first ?hot? p:laugh:ugh: Anyway, if you'd ask me, I'd say get the 15" PB with the fixed upgrades you want already opted in- this means deciding whether or not you'd get a SuperDrive,Lighted Keyboard and 1.25GHz G4 instead of 1GHz. If you don't expect to buy another one in just a few years, I'd say get the 15" SuperDrive PB. That way, you could grow into getting more out of it. Try saving on the accessories instead. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1177482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxBoy Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 BxBoy: I really thought somebody would've answered your question by now- I guess this thread has lost its steam. Oh well, it was a great run for my first ?hot? p:laugh:ugh:Anyway, if you'd ask me, I'd say get the 15" PB with the fixed upgrades you want already opted in- this means deciding whether or not you'd get a SuperDrive,Lighted Keyboard and 1.25GHz G4 instead of 1GHz. If you don't expect to buy another one in just a few years, I'd say get the 15" SuperDrive PB. That way, you could grow into getting more out of it. Try saving on the accessories instead. How about discounts? Should I go the educational route or the ADC (Apple Developer) route? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1181492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uniacid Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 for ADC you gotta buy the membership which is $100 and with the discount it will prolly be around the same price as with a student discount Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1181620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.b Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 for ADC you gotta buy the membership which is $100 and with the discount it will prolly be around the same price as with a student discount I too did the math and it didn't seem far too economical... and why bother having to go through 'processing'. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1181721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizza Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 for ADC you gotta buy the membership which is $100 and with the discount it will prolly be around the same price as with a student discount The ADC Student membership comes with Jaguar. People have been able to eBay the Jaguar CD for $99 :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1181994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 I too did the math and it didn't seem far too economical... and why bother having to go through 'processing'. What are you guys talking about? You are way off! :no: Education discount is only 100 dollars or so off the top cost. WIth ADC, not only do you get a HUGE discount on the initial item, but all the upgrades such as RAM and HD are at an extremely discounted rate also. Plus the fact that you get Jaguar, Developer Tools, etc.... all of which you can easily sell on eBay and make back the money that you spent on it in the first place if you wanted to. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/101218-the-new-powerbooks/page/3/#findComment-1183036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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