official Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3

[-KJ]

I play this game for multiplayer, anyway. And I definitely get my money's worth in that.

[Lingwo]

ok, bought it through gamesplanet, waiting for the key to come through.

I got mine through Gamesplanet too.

Mine arrived instantly unlike most other people.

Still downloading though. While Steam reports it as a 6GB download it is infact 14GB because it downloads the multiplayer also.

I'm not a big multiplayer gamer but Modern Warfare is one of the few games i do play online... first time on the PC though.

[ARchamps]

Question: Does this have Co-op for Campaign and other modes? What other modes are there? I really liked Spec Ops from MW2.. did they bring that back? I know they have Survival but that just reminds me of Firefight from Halo.. which was annoying. I'm looking to get this for PS3 probably.

[Lingwo]

No co-op in campaign but Spec Ops is back.

As well as the usual multiplayer suite with new features and tweaks.

[ARchamps]

No co-op in campaign but Spec Ops is back.

As well as the usual multiplayer suite with new features and tweaks.

:/ on no Co-op for campaign. But there is Co-op for Spec Ops?

[Lingwo]

Specs ops is co-op. I don't think it can be played any other way.

[PGHammer]

Ah I forgot about that one, you do have a point.

It's no easier dealing with fakery regarding government buildings (even obvious ones such as the Pentagon or White House - examples: "No Way Out" starring Kevin Costner and the TV series "The West Wing" and "24").

I've had the misfortune of having to spend serious time at the Pentagon (seven floors, including basement and sub-basement, of podiatric torture) and did the WH tour while the younger Bush was in office (prior to 9/11, of course - you'd be surprised how strong the furniture is in the East Wing, considering it's over a century old). The fakery is done for understandable reasons - however, as someone who's been there, it's still a pain to deal with.

[Coldgunner]

Key took about an hour to come through, downloading MW3 now. Wish I'd done it last night and left it downloading :(

[PGHammer]

Specs ops is co-op. I don't think it can be played any other way.

And the Campaign mode is *single-player*, and is pretty much *mostly* spec-ops (if not entirely), and the very first mission (taking down a radio jammer atop the NYSE building) is a case in point (still haven't been able to finish it - because I keep running out of ammo).

[Singh400]

Dunno, if this has been posted already:-

[Coldgunner]

Can't see the problem with re-using assets. So long as its not stupidly over re-used.

[HellboundIRL]

I've just finished the first mission and so far I really have no clue why people go crazy over this game. I feel like if it didn't have the Call of Duty name slapped on, it'd be classed as just another mediocre shooter....it really has very little going for it.

I guess its probably good for a console game. I have finished every CoD game to date so I'm determined to carry on regardless.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

Need tips to stay alive in MP :p This always puts me off COD games and I end up trading them back in within weeks of purchasing. I guess I'm just not that well suited to the fast paced solo nature of COD MP. I'll try and keep playing with MW3 though to see if I eventually get better.

[PGHammer]

Can't see the problem with re-using assets. So long as its not stupidly over re-used.

Hello - story continuity!

This is a *true sequel*, as it picks up literally where MW2 leaves off (which is why a lot of the same venues apply). I get it (and I haven't played any CoD before) - why is it that the players with previous experience didn't figure that out?

[trag3dy]

Can't see the problem with re-using assets. So long as its not stupidly over re-used.

The problem is that they are heavily reusing assets. Just watch the videos.. guns, sounds, entire buildings, icons. So much stuff taken straight out of MW1/2.

Hello - story continuity!

This is a *true sequel*, as it picks up literally where MW2 leaves off (which is why a lot of the same venues apply). I get it (and I haven't played any CoD before) - why is it that the players with previous experience didn't figure that out?

When you pay $60 and more for a game you expect them to not take the laziest development path they possible can.

[oceanmotion]

I've just finished the first mission and so far I really have no clue why people go crazy over this game. I feel like if it didn't have the Call of Duty name slapped on, it'd be classed as just another mediocre shooter....it really has very little going for it. I guess its probably good for a console game. I have finished every CoD game to date so I'm determined to carry on regardless.

It's still quite slick but hasn't changed for years. Re-spawning enemies until you pass a magical point is something I despise. MW1 was enough for me.

How do you rate BF3 Single Player ?

Recently completed that and co-op. Looks nice at times but rather rubbish.

[rajputwarrior]

When you pay $60 and more for a game you expect them to not take the laziest development path they possible can.

you mean how they make the game actually work at launch? and not patch all the problems after release? or do you have different definitions of lazy :p

The problem is that they are heavily reusing assets. Just watch the videos.. guns, sounds, entire buildings, icons. So much stuff taken straight out of MW1/2.

how would you know that exactly? didn't you say you haven't played a game since CoD 4?

[trag3dy]

you mean how they make the game actually work at launch? and not patch all the problems after release? or do you have different definitions of lazy :p

how would you know that exactly? didn't you say you haven't played a game since CoD 4?

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that first part, BF3 worked nearly perfectly for me since launch. Origin eating my install on the other hand... completely seperate issue.

Not exactly. The last CoD game I put a significant amount of hours into was the original Modern Warfare. But I've played MW2 at various places, enough to make the comparisons.

[rajputwarrior]

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that first part, BF3 worked nearly perfectly for me since launch. Origin eating my install on the other hand... completely seperate issue.

for you it did, mostly everyone else didn't...

no problem with your opinion, but if you are going to talk ish, come back when you've actually play/own the games before you talk such ish

[trag3dy]

for you it did, mostly everyone else didn't...

no problem with your opinion, but if you are going to talk ish, come back when you've actually play/own the games before you talk such ish

Not "most everyone".

Anyways, I'll just stop posting in this thread. But for record, if DICE had done the same thing in BF3.. taken assets straight out of BC2 and used them in BF3 I would have pointed it out just the same. Laziness is laziness. Believe me when I say I'm not blind to all the problems that BF3 has or had. And I can comment on that sort of thing because it's visual. It's not something you need to play the game to be able to talk about it because it's all over the videos.

[rajputwarrior]

Not "most everyone".

Anyways, I'll just stop posting in this thread. But for record, if DICE had done the same thing in BF3.. taken assets straight out of BC2 and used them in BF3 I would have pointed it out just the same. Laziness is laziness. I can comment on that sort of thing because it's visual. It's not something you need to play the game to be able to talk about it.

DICE not re-using assets and charging people? what the hell do you call the map pack coming out? and not moslty everyone?

16 new MP maps and people are ****ed they are using the same textures as the last game... shiiiiiiiiiiet everyone should be ****ed at EA for using the same jerseys in their sports games every year. lazy sobs :rolleyes:

such a fail or an argument. they ALL do it, but it's only a big deal when these guys do it.

[trag3dy]

DICE not re-using assets and charging people? what the hell do you call the map pack coming out? and not moslty everyone?

16 new MP maps and people are ****ed they are using the same textures as the last game... shiiiiiiiiiiet everyone should be ****ed at EA for using the same jerseys in their sports games every year. lazy sobs :rolleyes:

such a fail or an argument. they ALL do it, but it's only a big deal when these guys do it.

What assets are they reusing? The only thing in the back to Karkand pack is that the maps *might* have the same layout and we don't even know if that's going to be true or not. Other than that the maps had to be completely remade for Frostbite 2 engine because Battlefield 2 was a completely different engine. That means new textures and everything else. And I don't know about anyone else, but I wasn't charged for that.

Just look at the ump-45 from MW2 and MW3. They are the same exact model. Same texture. Same mesh. Same sounds. That's lazy.

And I've never played a single sports game made by any company so I wouldn't know about that.

[Twiddle]

DICE not re-using assets and charging people? what the hell do you call the map pack coming out? and not moslty everyone?

16 new MP maps and people are ****ed they are using the same textures as the last game... shiiiiiiiiiiet everyone should be ****ed at EA for using the same jerseys in their sports games every year. lazy sobs :rolleyes:

such a fail or an argument. they ALL do it, but it's only a big deal when these guys do it.

To be fair, in Madden they did re-use all the same coach models from Madden 2010, and some player models. Coach Tony Sparano is still a fat tub of lard in Madden 12, though, in real life now he has lost around 80lbs and is fairly thin.

But that is a different department in EA, and one where they have no competition thanks to the contract with the NFL, (which expires in 2012, I believe) and until that contract does expire, there won't be any competition in that market, and if they reach a new one, well, we are all stuck with the same Madden. :(

On the launch problems; yeah, it does suck, but I would rather a completely new game, and engine, graphics, textures, models, that is more or less 90-95% done and plays beautifully, to be tested on us at release to work out the tweaks, rather than a re-re-hash that is MW. Yes, it is pure laziness, especially when you do it for a third time in a row. I'm just wondering how they are even competing. I guess the name sells all.

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

How long would a Digital Download take on a HS connection?

[mattmatik]

Is there a neowin clan/group? Might pick this up for 360 for some mindless mp.