Death penalty and innocence

[White Man]

Vote.

[Bamsebjørn]

Countries where the death penalty is allowed are backward, stupid countries.

I'm talking about the countries, not about the people... I know these countries have plenty of reasonable people.

[Le_Ryan]

Who in particular do you classify as "Those who are responsible"? Is it the prosecutor who provides evidence of guilt, the jury who decides if the person is innocent or guilty, the judge who decides the sentence, or the guy(s) who perform the execution?

None of these people are really 'responsible', they're just cogs in a machine...

[Pam14160]

Just another very dumb poll. . . :rolleyes:

[Tews]

Rather trollish IMO ...

[DukeEsquire]

WTF?

This doesn't even make sense.

I guess as a society, we are all responsible in some way for the death of an innocent person, so we would need to execute everyone in America.

[sonyman]

What an absolutely stupid poll.

[tiagosilva29]

Third option.

[Amarok]

Second option. Bizarre poll.

[Twiddle]

From the beginning, to 1:15.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wntitiiLotk

[Hardcore Til I Die]

I disagree with any kind of death penalty.

Stupid poll though - "those who are responsible" - that could be hundreds of people involved in the criminal justice system, from witnesses of a murder, to lawyers, to the people who actually carry out the execution. It wouldn't make sense to kill hundreds of people because one person was wrongly killed.

[s1k3sT]

This question implies that someone else besides the one being executed is responsible for the execution taking place. I want to know: is there any evidence to support what the question you're asking implies?

Is there any evidence to support this theory that people don't consent to being governed?

[+Majesticmerc MVC]

The death penalty in general is simply evidence that we as humans think that two wrongs do make a right.

[tiagosilva29]

It wouldn't make sense to kill hundreds of people because one person was wrongly killed.

That's kind of the point.

[White Man]

This question implies that someone else besides the one being executed is responsible for the execution taking place.

Surely you can't be that daft - did you miss the part where it says an innocent person's execution? How is the execution of an innocent person his or her own fault?

[s1k3sT]

Surely you can't be that daft - did you miss the part where it says an innocent person's execution? How is the execution of an innocent person his or her own fault?

Can you prove they don't (probably unknowingly) consent to being governed?

If they do consent to being governed, how is not their own fault when the governing goes "bad"?

[ThePitt]

The death penalty in general is simply evidence that we as humans think that two wrongs do make a right.

that

[antsy]

Extrodinary claims require extrodinary evidence.

[Muhammad Farrukh]

If the people who didn't knew that the suspect is innocent, then they shouldn't be executed.

Otherwise, they should

[Eddo89]

Who is supposedly responsible?

-Prosecutors for working with the evidence on hand?

-The Judge for passing the sentence?

-The Jury for the verdict?

If you say someone intentionally planted evidence to frame them, then you have a point. But chances are, that person would be guilty of the crime and probably would had been executed anyway.

[singularity87]

By this logic, when a person had their conviction overturned on appeal (for any sentence), the jury would presumably have to be prosecuted for finding them guilty . . .

[Glassed Silver]

A State killing people is no better than a civil person doing it.

Why do States kill people?

Justice, really? where does that come from?

Feeling th urge to have revenge? The people vote for death penalty?

What if the murderer kills for the urge to punish (revenge)?

Same logic, but magically doesn't work just because he/she is someone else than the State who has this weird "right" stemmed from population's "yes". So if most people in a closed circle say "kill" it somehow is right.

What if majority of the people is morally crippled?

States should't kill and shouldn't punish for revenge.

In Germany and I guess in many many more states the official reason for jailing people etc is resocializing.

Now of cause it's not the most effective method and I'd favor better methods often, but at least it's not as 'final' and not a symbol for plain, cruel and uncivilized revenge.

I see no State with death penalties in place as overly civilized (at least not their governements) nor worthwhile to live in such a place.

I detest the death penalty with a passion and States that have it still in place need to get slapped by Amnesty International (which they do) and get sanctioned.

People who are in favor for death sentence severely lack a feeling for justice and it worries me deeply so many still support it.

Glassed Silver:ios

[cork1958]

I'm all for the death penalty but you better be d**n sure you have the correct person you're about to execute!

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

I voted yes. Not because that's actually how I feel, but because if it were the case, the death penalty would be used a LOT less.

[FMH]

Like you said, "wrongly executed". At the time of the execution, the person was thought to be guilty. So they executed and can't be punished for findings, that were made later.

But if they knowingly execute an innocent person, it is nothing short of a murder.