Apple may be violating a newly acquired Samsung patent.

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In short terms, the dual antenna design in iPhone 4s (i would guess this means iPhone 4 as well), may be violating a patent earlier held by the Danish professor Gert Frølunda Pedersen.

He has now sold this patent to Samsung.

This the translated text;

Danish patent may affect the iPhone 4S

Antenna Experts have sold it to Samsung.

Also new in Apple new iPhone 4S, the company said a further development of the double antenna in its predecessor, so that the new mobile phone in an intelligent way to switch between two antennas to transmit and receive. This can lead to better connection if the user's hand displays for one of the antenna.

Now, says Gert Frolunda Pedersen, a Danish professor at Aalborg University Department of Electronic Systems, that this technology, which Apple claims is unique, can be covered by patents that he and colleagues at the university received a patent on several years ago.

This tells Frolunda Pedersen to the Comon .

- When Apple says that this is new, so right there. It has been used very long. For example, in the wireless DECT phones. Both the bases and in some of the phones, says the professor.

It's all about the process to determine which antenna has the best signal. This can be done in several ways, but according Comon are all probably covered by a patent that Frørund Pedersen was granted on 5 January 2010.

- You can simply do it by measuring the signal strength. But you can also make it a little smarter, and it can well imagine that Apple has done, says Frolunda Pedersen.

Given that it is the position of the hands that are the problem, the sign of the direction of mobile phone is held - portrait or landscape - could be involved in determining which antenna to use.But the current patent covers apparently the choice of antenna based on factors like the type of data service is used, which keys the user presses down or which parts of the screen is touched, the compass direction relative to the base station and the headset is used.

- I can not say that directly violate the patent, but it is not in so many ways they can choose the right antenna, unless they are going to break many patents. And just what the patent here covers me wide, says Frolunda Pedersen Comon.

The case is no less interesting that Frolunda Pedersen at some point have sold the patent to Samsung, which already has gone to the courts of Paris and Milan with applications for interim measures against the new mobile phone to Apple.

Samsung and Apple have accused each other of copying the design and patented solutions and fighting for time in the courts in several countries. Attempts to reach an agreement has not yet succeeded, but such cases end not rare in a settlement with cross-licensing each other's patents.

Read the google-translated source here (actually not a bad translation);

http://translate.goo...ramme-iphone-4s

The patent;

http://www.google.co...epage&q&f=false

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Elliott

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Anyone looking forward to iPhone being banned from sale? Samsung and Apple will be even then.

Apple will probably just ask the courts to rescind their injunctions against Samsung if this case has any merit to it.

Funny though that the patent Samsung is trying to use against Apple wasn't actually invented by Samsung.

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Anyone looking forward to iPhone being banned from sale? Samsung and Apple will be even then.

I dont want Apple or Samsung banned. Competition is good for consumers. I just want the ****ing match to stop and they work something out.

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FMH

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Apple will probably just ask the courts to rescind their injunctions against Samsung if this case has any merit to it.

Funny though that the patent Samsung is trying to use against Apple wasn't actually invented by Samsung.

Apple also has acquired many tech companies and their patent portfolio. You wouldn't expect someone as far-sighted as Steve Jobs, to miss something like that!

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Elliott

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Apple also has acquired many tech companies and their patent portfolio. You wouldn't expect someone as far-sighted as Steve Jobs, to miss something like that!

Apple has acquired many patents, but to my knowledge hasn't used any that they haven't invented against Samsung or other companies.

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random_

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Do you gain anything from such a ban? As in do you work for Samsung? If not I'm finding your reply a bit sad.

Do you suggest we should be happy companies will just roll over and let Apple be the only 1 selling electronics? I dont see what's sad about combating Apple with their own medicine.I think we will see a solution to this patent mess faster if companies go against Apple instead of letting them ban their products left and right.

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Do you gain anything from such a ban? As in do you work for Samsung? If not I'm finding your reply a bit sad.

Ask that to our Australian friends!!!! many cannot buy galaxy products now...

I want iphone banned. and the gain would be they come up with patent deals and both product sells

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Astra.Xtreme

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I can not say that directly violate the patent, but it is not in so many ways they can choose the right antenna, unless they are going to break many patents. And just what the patent here covers me wide, says Frolunda Pedersen Comon.

Go figure. More speculation...

I'm guessing this will go nowhere.

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c3ntury

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Anyone looking forward to iPhone being banned from sale? Samsung and Apple will be even then.

I really really hope Apple are banned from selling their new flagship product after the way they've gone about this entire bout of lawsuits frankly.

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