ATi Radeon 9800 XT (Review)


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The idea is you have the option of upgrading through steam.

The 9600 XT is probably the best mid range card you can get atm.

Nice, so the Single player voucher will come with the card...and a coupon for an upgrade to the multiplayer at a lower price.

Not bad at all, I can't wait to find out the prices of these babies (card & upgrade).

ATi = teh leet.

i've been waiting for this card just cause of the higher clock speeds and overclockability. Something ATi never really had compared to the nVidia card. Now there are no excuses for nVidia fan boys to not take a second look at this beast.

rob.derosa, you're right, it is ?300. I just converted $500 and it came to ?300 (give or take a few pennies).

That's not bad pricing considering the 9800 Pro is ?290...so for an extra ?10 we can get the 9800:)T :) mind you, I don't know if that's the final price in the UK, we'll just have to wait and see the prices when they're released over herElectroglitter, been almost 2 we:ss :s but that 256MB 9800 Pro will be worth the wait...you'll have to let us know how many fps you're getting in UT2003 at the highest possible setti:)s :)

you know, my geforce4 mx440-se 64mb card can run fs2004 on full graphics fine except when 3d clouds are set to maximum so i just use simple clouds and it runs fine, the card hasnt being bad.

i cant wait for the card, overclockers emailed me on friday and said they should have stock back within a week... so im expecting to get another email tomorrow or friday either confirming dispatch or that they are still waiting for the sock to come in :(

my one worry is my 300 watt power supply, its really going to be borderline whether it will boot with the new card zapping all the power, i guess if it doesnt boot (by the way, if there isnt enough power, will it damage any hardware or just not boot?) then ill be changing back to mx440 and going online and ordering an antec truepower 430 watt power supply and i should get that next day if they have them in stock.

Good point, I've gotta' 350W PSU and that should be fine. But your 300W shouldn't pose much of a problem. You could do what I'm doing. I have:

- 1 CD-Writer

- 1 DVD Drive

In the same machine, so on www.scan.co.uk you can get a CD-RW with a built in DVD drive (52x24x52x16)...for ?45, so that should drop your power usage down a touch (if you have 2 seperate drives like me that is). I don't think you would damage the hardware if you have a low PSU (then again, I have blown up 3 PSU's in the past 2 years due to overusage).

See if it works as it is, if not - then get that 430W+ then you know you'll be alright.

Edit:

?37 - 450W CWT + SATA Quiet Dual Fan AMD/P4 App Active Fan Control Active PFC @ scan.co.uk

?58 - 520W HiperPower PSU Quiet Triple Fan (Active Fan Control) Active PFC @ scan.co.uk

Not bad ;) ;)

ive this stuff running off my 300 watt power supply

logitech dual optical mouse (ps2)

genius generic keyboard

samsung 52c cd-rom

samsung 32x cd-rw

pansonic floppy disk drive (seriously could remove that)

1x512 ddr266

p4 2.4b

80gb seagate barracuda hard drive

56k v.90 pci modem

logitech quickcam pro 4000

ms side winder force feedback 2 joystick (has ac adapter for force feedback, but still will use some power)

oh and 1 case fan

Probably just around a few fps's difference. I'm after the "Hercules 3D Prophet 128MB 9800 Pro" because according to benchmarks it's very nice - and the pictures of it are very nice.

Just search Toms Hardware Guide, and you'll find benchmarks of all their cards...go have a looksy.

one of these? :woot:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/her...les_9800pro.jpg

Right at the bottom

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Onl...rcules_140.html

i have that same card, the hercules, bought a few weeks ago.

ive this stuff running off my 300 watt power supply

logitech dual optical mouse (ps2)

genius generic keyboard

samsung 52c cd-rom

samsung 32x cd-rw

pansonic floppy disk drive (seriously could remove that)

1x512 ddr266

p4 2.4b

80gb seagate barracuda hard drive

56k v.90 pci modem

logitech quickcam pro 4000

ms side winder force feedback 2 joystick (has ac adapter for force feedback, but still will use some power)

oh and 1 case fan

Well, you could remove the 52x cd-rom and use your writer as the primary drive for now. That way, that PSU connector can be used on the GPU rather than the cd-rom.

I guess that's one way of increasing power in your system. And if all else fails, you could always get that higher PSU.

ok... Now if you buy that videocard (how about? 200 u$s?) you can play with Halo...

lets make some math here, a computer that you have now ~800 u$s (remeber that you have to upgrade that bitch every 6 months if you wanna play with the lastest titles) + new videocard (~$200) + Halo for PC ~$50 = +1000 (at least)... Xbox $200 + Halo running without any problems (read main memory, upgrades and a long of etc) $44 = ~250$...

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