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They kinda incorporated Windows Defender with MSE

The beta of Windows Defender included with the WDP *is* MSE - it even uses the same virus definitions (as does the commercial/enterprise version, Forefront Security).

The current public beta of MSE is the same code as Defender in Windows Developer Preview - the two will be even more closely matched when the public beta hits the Internet.

(The two - Defender in the WDP and the current MSE beta - are alike in another way; the real-time protection is far faster on the draw than the currently-non-beta version of MSE.)

Been using the Dev Preview as my primary OS since it was released.

I have never had any issues with it. Performance wise, it beats Windows 7.

Hyper-V is one of the major reasons I will move to Windows 8.

Also, in terms of device management, 8 wins over any other OS I have used.

Been using the Dev Preview as my primary OS since it was released.

I have never had any issues with it. Performance wise, it beats Windows 7.

Hyper-V is one of the major reasons I will move to Windows 8.

Also, in terms of device management, 8 wins over any other OS I have used.

Noticed that, did you?

8's Device Manger (and apparently the device management as well) is a lot finer-grained than any OS I've ever run.

Some Linux distributions come close - however, Windows 8 beats even them. (Device management is one advantage Linux distributions, in fact, have had over Windows up to, and including, 7 - however, Windows 8 is apparently planning on getting the title, or, at minimum, challenging seriously for it.)

I commented earlier on the performance and stability aspect of the WDP - upgrading from E3400 to Q6600 drives the point home with a jackhammer. (With i5-K decidedly next up, I honestly have no idea whether to cheer or cringe - I may wind up looking like the guinea pig that dared to ride that rocket-sled at Vandenberg AFB to a record speed - it left his face muscles semi-permanently pulled back.)

Some Linux distributions come close - however, Windows 8 beats even them. (Device management is one advantage Linux distributions, in fact, have had over Windows up to, and including, 7 - however, Windows 8 is apparently planning on getting the title, or, at minimum, challenging seriously for it.)

I never could get any Linux distro to work with either my TP-Link or Cisco wireless usb dongle.

Installs perfectly, just drops the connection after I browse the Internet for about two minutes.

Happens with:

Ubuntu

Mint

PCLinuxOS

(all recent versions)

I like Linux. It just doesn't Like me.

I've been using it as my primary since it came out. Runs like a dream.

- Love the new combined copy dialogue and detailed stats

- Ribbon is working great, especially not having to drill into tools, folder options to show hidden/system and extensions anymore...

I am using that russian hack to get rid of the metro interface though... hate hitting the windows key brings up metro.... im sure this will be gone in beta or an option at least.

I am using that russian hack to get rid of the metro interface though... hate hitting the windows key brings up metro.... im sure this will be gone in beta or an option at least.

I don't believe MS will give you an option to disable the Metro start screen

They really want you to start using the Metro Apps.

You will start seeing more use for that menu screen once the Windows Store opens and you actually get some useful apps

For now i spend most of my time on the desktop, but i don't mind going to the start screen to start an app or start searching for something

Having used it for a couple of days, the thing I really don't like about the metro apps is that everything is full screen. I get this for tablets and whatnot, but why for PC?

Who wants to use twitter in full screen? Look at the weather in full screen?

It's almost like they've completely done away with the "Windows" of Windows if you want to use Metro.

I am using that russian hack to get rid of the metro interface though... hate hitting the windows key brings up metro.... im sure this will be gone in beta or an option at least.

Since there is NO reason to prefer the old start menu over the metro start menu, then I don't see why they would do this optional.

I can already tell you that this hack won't work in the final release, I'm 99% sure that it will be.

Having used it for a couple of days, the thing I really don't like about the metro apps is that everything is full screen. I get this for tablets and whatnot, but why for PC?

Who wants to use twitter in full screen? Look at the weather in full screen?

It's almost like they've completely done away with the "Windows" of Windows if you want to use Metro.

That's why you can put appz side by side.

Example with the desktop & wheater appz (it also works with 2 metro apps) :

Microsoft-Windows-8-Metro-UI,3-F-311163-13.png

Since there is NO reason to prefer the old start menu over the metro start menu, then I don't see why they would do this optional.

I can already tell you that this hack won't work in the final release, I'm 99% sure that it will be.

That's why you can put appz side by side.

Example with the desktop & wheater appz (it also works with 2 metro apps) :

Microsoft-Windows-8-Metro-UI,3-F-311163-13.png

Ah, i haven't found out how to do that yet!

i tried the dev preview but there's no way i could use it day to day. the lack of options for customising metro/arranging tiles/groups was painful. i'm definitely looking forward to the beta though.

Since there is NO reason to prefer the old start menu over the metro start menu, then I don't see why they would do this optional.

I can already tell you that this hack won't work in the final release, I'm 99% sure that it will be.

That's why you can put appz side by side.

Example with the desktop & wheater appz (it also works with 2 metro apps) :

Microsoft-Windows-8-Metro-UI,3-F-311163-13.png

There will be way to kill Metro, i am sure. Based on what you claim that there is no reason to prefer old Start Menu? Your example of desktop and metro app next to each other is Microsoft attempt to fix broken workflow with Windows 8 so they figured let's do this, slap two interfaces which still have nothing to do with each other. Desktop itself excluding Taskbar which is very small portion of it is unused. There were so many ways to use that desktop space but instead they came up with whole new interface.

The dev previews metro apps and layout weren't terribly impressive, but based on what they've said has been changed I'm going to love it.

I had problems with .NET 1.1 so the dev preview wasn't for me, but I'm definately installing the beta in some form. I don't know if it will be my primary OS but I suspect so.

The dev previews metro apps and layout weren't terribly impressive, but based on what they've said has been changed I'm going to love it.

I had problems with .NET 1.1 so the dev preview wasn't for me, but I'm definately installing the beta in some form. I don't know if it will be my primary OS but I suspect so.

Are you serious about .net 1.1 ? It's barely used afaik.

Up until now, i had only used the DP in a virtual machine. A few days ago, I decided to install it over my physical Vista partition that I never use anymore. I was amazed by the speed at which it installed. But I really dislike the way the new bootloader works. First, while the bootloader may not be fully functional yet, it doesn't work properly for mulit-boot in its current form. I had to use a Winodows 7 CD to recover the other two Windows installations that were on this drive. That process did add the two existing OS's to the new Windows 8 bootloader. But, the new system forces a reboot AFTER you make your OS boot selection. So, if I want to boot into 7, for example, I have to power on, wait for the Win8 bootloader, select Win7 from the list, and then wait for another reboot. Seemslike a strange step backwards to me.

I tried running the DP as my main OS for a couple of days, but had too many issues with the system hanging at the spinning circle when I tried to log out. I won't use it as my main OS, but I do llok forward to trying out a beta, if and when it is released (soon, hopefully!)

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