Apollo 16 astronauts found alien ship, psychics say

[Hum]

A group of parapsychology sleuths accuse NASA of hiding evidence of aliens on the lunar surface -- wild tales that sound like an amalgamation of Hollywood sci-fi movies: "Apollo 18," "Minority Report" and "Alien."

Transception Incorporated, self-described as an Austin, Tex., based psychic R&D operation, sent a letter to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden that nominates the Apollo 16 crew for the Congressional Space Medal of Honor.

The medal is being recommended for astronauts John Young and Charles Duke allegedly coming upon an extraterrestrial "shipwreck" on the surface of the moon during their third lunar surface excursion on April 23, 1972. A prerequisite for the award is that the crew is "released from secrecy" about what they really saw on the moon.

A variety of "shipwreck elements" -- described as "structures, people/aliens, biological technology, and their plight" -- were reportedly seen through a psychic technique called remote viewing by six experts at Transception.

The "wreckage" suspiciously looks a lot like just a big boulder, dubbed "house rock." And, you'd expect to find big boulders on the edge of an impact crater.

Simply look at the high resolution images from the public-accessible Apollo archives. A photo mosaic of the alleged spaceship (shown below) is either a boulder or a fossilized alien vehicle.

The alleged crash site, as seen in the Lunar Orbiter photo, is pretty bland-looking for a purported disaster location. It's like looking for a capsized cruise liner and just seeing a shoal of rocks.

If you listen to the audio transmission, the astronauts should get an Academy Award for acting instead -- if the conspiracy theorists are right. The crew never says "holy cow! look at that spaceship!" Instead, they say, "look at the size of that rock!"

Besides the Apollo photos, you can easily go online and peruse LRO image of the Apollo 16 landing site and go looking for the alleged spaceship on the rim of North Ray Crater.

But wait! As is typical of any pseudoscience, when reality doesn't fit the far-out claims, true believers turn to paranoid allegations of government cover-ups, monolithic global conspiracies and media censorship.

Supporters of the crashed spaceship tale say that NASA simply deleted the evidence from the Apollo 16 photos (and they would probably say the same for the LRO data). Because the Apollo images are recorded on photographic emulsion, not digital data, manipulating them would be no small trick.

Photo trickery allegations are a convenient back door for conspiracy buffs that is big enough to sail the Titanic through.

The group says that a psychic technique called remote viewing allows people to take an armchair visit to other planets. The mind-travelers draw images of alien-looking things that are supposedly transmitted from a definitely out-of-body experience (potentially) millions of miles from Earth.

In the 1960s, when psychoactive drugs became widely popular, I assumed that claims of tripping to other worlds were purely imaginary. Consider this remote viewing experience reported in a discussion forum:

"...I relaxed in my chair, and pointed myself up there. I saw 6 or seven aliens looking right at me grinning and smiling. they had red eyes like the reddit alien but no antenna. As soon as I saw these creatures I immediately felt hurt ..."

The roots of remote viewing can be traced to several U.S. Government sponsored parapsychology studies from the 1970s to 1990s. When funding was canceled in 1995, an executive summary concluded that the remote viewing test results were at best "vague and ambiguous."

Government involvement (and gullibility) alone doesn't legitimize what is clearly a pseudoscience that ranks alongside astrology, ghost hunting, and "telekinetic" spoon-bending.

As with any pseudoscience, there are no physical underpinnings to the outlandish claims of remote viewing. In other words, no natural particles or fields capable of carrying information into the human brain, independently from the five senses, have ever been quantitatively measured in a physics laboratory.

And, as is typical of a pseudoscience, remote viewing claims contradict fundamental physics such as the speed of light barrier and causality.

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[44MLX]

Truth is hidden from the people.

[mudslag]

"fossilized alien vehicle", how does a space ship fossilize on the moon with no atmosphere (extremely limited), liquids or moving sediments to cover said vehicle.

Love the picture of a rock, looks just like a rock.

[Hum]

Unless aliens hollowed out an asteroid, I doubt it was a ship.

[joep1984]

There's a rock outside my door. It is either a rock, or a big gold nugget encased in dirt.

So by saying it's either A or B, they believe it must be an alien spacecraft? Riiiiight.

I think they took the intro to Transformers 3 too seriously.

[NoLiMiT06]

Sounds like the plot of the recent Transformers movie.... Nice try... :rolleyes:

[Solid Knight]

Wrong. In the 1800's some British dudes floated up to the moon with anti-gravity paint but ended up killing all the aliens with their colds.

[BumbleBritches57]

"Psychics" to begin with are almost always bull****ters, but you wrapped that ina company thats motive is to make money, and you STILL believe it?!?!?!?!

[Growled Member]

Some people will believe anything.

[The Laughing Man]

"fossilized alien vehicle", how does a space ship fossilize on the moon with no atmosphere (extremely limited), liquids or moving sediments to cover said vehicle.

Love the picture of a rock, looks just like a rock.

Implying its made of a known substance. Think about it, If it had "fossilized" , that process (as we know it) takes millions of years. In the course of those millions of years the moon has been bombarded thousands of times by meteors and what not. Its easy for sediment to rise up and settle all over the place without wind or atmosphere. Just a thought. Not saying I believe this story , just some food for thought.

[ahhell]

Hum and foxnews

Must be a totally accurate story

:|

[mudslag]

Implying its made of a known substance. Think about it, If it had "fossilized" , that process (as we know it) takes millions of years. In the course of those millions of years the moon has been bombarded thousands of times by meteors and what not. Its easy for sediment to rise up and settle all over the place without wind or atmosphere. Just a thought. Not saying I believe this story , just some food for thought.

fozzilization process is caused by a bit more then just being covered up by dirt.

[Solid Knight]

So maybe there's some fossil fuel on the moon. We need to send a team up there to drill.

[Calum Veteran]

This is a Fox News article? Hm, sounds legit.

[ScottKin]

This is a Fox News article? Hm, sounds legit.

I'm suprised that a Global Mod would acutally think that FoxNews said that the story was legit.

RTFA, Callum!

--ScottKin

[Calum Veteran]

I'm suprised that a Global Mod would acutally think that FoxNews said that the story was legit.

RTFA, Callum!

--ScottKin

I didn't claim that they said it sounds legit. I was referring to the content of the article, and I implied that I was not surprised it was Fox News that actually bothered to publish such crap.

[ScottKin]

I didn't claim that they said it sounds legit. I was referring to the content of the article, and I implied that I was not surprised it was Fox News that actually bothered to publish such crap.

Sometimes, FoxNews does publish articles to tweak the nose & poke fun at conspiracy theorists. Your comment *was* very nebulous and would probably lead others to believe that you think that FoxNews is somewhat less-than-credible.

Just sayin'...

--ScottKin

[The Laughing Man]

fozzilization process is caused by a bit more then just being covered up by dirt.

No where in there did I say fossilization is caused by covering of dirt. , Fossilization is alot more complex than that.

[Hum]

Hum and foxnews

Must be a totally accurate story

:|

Originally from Discovery News

http://news.discovery.com/space/psychic-viewers-say-apollo-16-astronauts-found-alien-spaceship-120124.html

[winrez]

I would totally discount this but I know the moons surface is like talcum powder and I could see this happening with solar winds blowing dust around the moon just like a shipwreck underwater. and if the "vehicle" that crashed had any properties to attract any of the lunar surface to it.

[mudslag]

Yellow circle = Astronaut (facing away from said space ship)

Blue circle = Astronaut foot prints

Red box = no foot prints

So the claim is made that a space ship is found on the moon. Yet, the pic shows that its realitively small, next to the astronaut. Yet the one cloesest to said ship doesnt even bother checking it out. Doesnt even walk up to check it out.

I would totally discount this but I know the moons surface is like talcum powder and I could see this happening with solar winds blowing dust around the moon just like a shipwreck underwater. and if the "vehicle" that crashed had any properties to attract any of the lunar surface to it.

Not really, if the solar winds could wip up enough wind to cover up said ship, then we wouldnt be staring each night at million year old craters that still look the same after they impacted. Plus look at the formation of the rock (ship) itself, that's not something that's been covered up by loose moon dust.

[+virtorio MVC]

Sounds rock solid

[Farstrider]

Sometimes, FoxNews does publish articles to tweak the nose & poke fun at conspiracy theorists. Your comment *was* very nebulous and would probably lead others to believe that you think that FoxNews is somewhat less-than-credible.

Just sayin'...

--ScottKin

Quite frankly I got his veiled sarcasm immediately!