Zain Adeel Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Hello guys. As sad i was to hear that ribbon is here to stay in windows 8. Sad not because i dont like it. I dont. But good that we can minimize it. Sad because i was hoping for a metro desktop environment. Something like i did in my earlier concepts but i understand its too early and people will not like such a drastic change to their much loved Aero UI. Realising that Ribbon is here to stay. I challanged myself to make a Ribbon UI that is consistent. And beautiful. (also something mature) I ended up with this. I did all the icons myself. Not really an iconist. But these alone took me a few days. I did this just to show MS how its done!. Like a boss! :p just kidding. Its my humble request to their design team to please improve the ribbon UI so my eyes dont bleed. Everything is self explanatory. Remember. This is not a NEW RIBBON CONCEPT. I wont do that because its useless as MS is sticking to this UI. What i did is redid the whole UI elements. Like a skin or theme. To show it can look alot better with better graphics. First 2 files are MS Beta shots. (almost beta). The other 3 are my designs. I would go with a single size icon. Small yet touch friendly. With no text. But a simple option to enable or disable it. I am showing both the options and also a minimized Ribbon UI aswell. Hope you like it all. FMH, Duffydemon, Detection and 4 others 7 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra.Xtreme Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I think how it's organized really nicely, but I don't like how it's colorless. Any reason why you chose to go that route? It just seems too bland without color. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594623808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger H. Veteran Posted February 1, 2012 Veteran Share Posted February 1, 2012 OMG, that's gross. :x LOL Sorry but i rather the other one much more. Monotone UIs don't help with easily finding stuff. You may not use it but that "blue E" on the desktop for most people is where they find the internet. If you were to change that to a red or something else most people would just complain. The good thing with Windows I guess is that you can change some stuff on your own to make it "Personal" so you do that :p MFH 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594623810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason S. Global Moderator Posted February 1, 2012 Global Moderator Share Posted February 1, 2012 i just hate how the ribbon takes up so much real estate. it's like 30% of the window is ribbon... Prince781 and Charisma 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594623818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
remixedcat Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 dark version please! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594623826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pack34 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 i just hate how the ribbon takes up so much real estate. it's like 30% of the window is ribbon... It's collapsed by default so if you need it you click the tab, then action, and it disappears again. Brandon H 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594623834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charisma Veteran Posted February 1, 2012 Veteran Share Posted February 1, 2012 I like it, but then, I'm kind of a minimalist. I'm not a big fan of the ribbon thing, but if I have to have one, I prefer yours. :) Well done. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594623838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaP Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 It's better than MS ribbon imo. But i must say i dislike ms ribbon a lot so ... I like the concept of the ribbon. I have Photoshop CS2 at work and the tool bar is kinda like a ribbon and i like it. My main problem with MS ribbon is it's way too big and crowded. Yours is less crowded but it's still a little bit too big imo. You could reduce the height by a couple of pixels. It's collapsed by default so if you need it you click the tab, then action, and it disappears again. It still take 30% of the window space for no reason when not collapsed. It's simply too big and crowded for no reason. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594623840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsupersonic Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I like it, but then, I'm kind of a minimalist. I'm not a big fan of the ribbon thing, but if I have to have one, I prefer yours. :) Well done. That is anything but minimal. I don't like the concept, because it is too cluttered, and takes up way too much real estate. I like how Windows 7 presents Windows Explorer. I like how the menu (File, Edit, View, Tools, Help) is hidden by default. I don't use it often enough, and even if you do need it, just hit the ALT key. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594623868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detection Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 The main thing MS need to address is the ancient yellow folders, yes they have updated the look of the icon, but the colour is still ancient Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594623874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charisma Veteran Posted February 1, 2012 Veteran Share Posted February 1, 2012 That is anything but minimal. I don't like the concept, because it is too cluttered, and takes up way too much real estate. I like how Windows 7 presents Windows Explorer. I like how the menu (File, Edit, View, Tools, Help) is hidden by default. I don't use it often enough, and even if you do need it, just hit the ALT key. I don't see how you think it's cluttered--it is a lot simpler and cleaner than the original. I like the monochrome as well. I do think it's still too large, though, yes. A thinner ribbon would be nice. The main thing MS need to address is the ancient yellow folders, yes they have updated the look of the icon, but the colour is still ancient The majority of physical folders you buy like that are still the yellow manila folders, which is what they were trying to emulate. It's rather iconic (excuse the pun) at this point, so I don't think it's quite as much of an issue. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594623884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Miller Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Why so grey? That's bad HCI. Microsoft, STOP copying mistakes by Apple and start hiring learned HCI researchers and not idiots with a 2bit degree with zero industrial experience. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594623896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted February 1, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted February 1, 2012 You Lion-ified1 Windows Explorer. Which isn't a bad thing; I prefer the monochrome version. In a way it reminds me of Windows 2000 with its monochrome toolbar icons which only were coloured when active. Great job - if anyone from the folks in Redmond is reading this topic: Copy license Zain Adeel's design to use instead of the messy looking one in your screenshots please. 1Apple changed the sidebar icons in Finder from coloured to monochrome in OS X 10.7 'Lion'. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594623906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azies Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 No Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594623912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+virtorio MVC Posted February 1, 2012 MVC Share Posted February 1, 2012 As is Lion, I find the grey icons are too hard to distinguish from one another (especially the 16x16) icons. It also doesn't address the problem I have with the ribbon (other than it's existence) which is it's too big for no real reason. My notebook has a fairly low-res screen and I don't consider having my toolbar "minimize" a valid solution. Why so grey? That's bad HCI. Microsoft, STOP copying mistakes by Apple and start hiring learned HCI researchers and not idiots with a 2bit degree with zero industrial experience. This isn't a mockup from Microsoft. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594623924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detection Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 When Windows 8 is released, if the above shots are the same, I would take OP's modded theme over the default one any day This isn't a mockup from Microsoft. No, its a design by the OP Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594623926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+virtorio MVC Posted February 1, 2012 MVC Share Posted February 1, 2012 No, its a design by the OP No s**t. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594623944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 While others hated it, I personally loved it when Apple went monochromatic with iTunes' sidebar buttons and later on system-wide with OS X Lion. It just radiates a sense of tranquility and allows you to fully focus on content rather than window chrome. To me the Ribbon on the other hand looks like an onorganized explosion of different sized icons, colors, text, blank space, tabs stacked on top of more tabs and whatnot. It seems cluttered, messy and really steals away the focus of what really matters: content. When I focus on content while working with the Finder, Safari, Mail etc. the window chrome (on OS X Lion there's only the title and toolbar) sort of blurs away and doesn't take away my attention. When using Windows 8's Windows Explorer the Ribbon keeps screaming "HELLOOHOO! I'M HERE!!!", something I find extremely annoying. You basically took what Apple did to OS X Lion and its apps and applied it to Windows Explorer. Your modification takes away the emphasis from the Ribbon and shifts it to the window's content, the way it should be. On top of that the window has a more balanced appearance instead of looking like it could collapse at any moment under the Ribbon's weight. I like it. (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594623966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
floopydoodle Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Eww. Looks like some random Linux distro. :s Sorry Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594623970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charisma Veteran Posted February 1, 2012 Veteran Share Posted February 1, 2012 You know... I once heard the default, brightly-coloured Start menu in XP described as "Fisher-Price-like", and it stuck with me. That's what Metro and their ribbon UI seem like to me--clunky and colourful, like toys made for 3-year-olds. I would like an GUI for adults, please. (I know, I know, I'll go back to Linux.) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594623978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Laughing Man Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Yea good job Microsoft lets add more crap to explorer (regardless if you can hide it or not) clutter clutter clutter!!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594623980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 The Finder by comparison. Sorry, couldn't resist! :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594624000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 The main thing MS need to address is the ancient yellow folders, yes they have updated the look of the icon, but the colour is still ancient They won't change it for the same reason save icons are still a floppy disk, even though no one uses them anymore. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594624002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detection Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 You know... I once heard the default, brightly-coloured Start menu in XP described as "Fisher-Price-like", and it stuck with me. That's what Metro and their ribbon UI seem like to me--clunky and colourful, like toys made for 3-year-olds. I would like an GUI for adults, please. (I know, I know, I'll go back to Linux.) +1 Exactly what I said not a week ago, MS treating us all like blind children, XP the crayon drawing, Metro UI the childrens building blocks. Linux is looking more and more tempting every day Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594624014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zain Adeel Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 I think how it's organized really nicely, but I don't like how it's colorless. Any reason why you chose to go that route? It just seems too bland without color. It is not colorless. Its monochrome. And the reason is perfectly explained by Neo here. dark version please! Dark version is out of the question. For the same reason as explained by Neo. Some text in the ribbonUI just gotta be removed like "Clipboard, organize, new, open, and Select". An we'll beable to gain some of that space back. I think clipboard and such heading texts should stay. And other icon text should not be there. You Lion-ified1 Windows Explorer. Which isn't a bad thing; I prefer the monochrome version. In a way it reminds me of Windows 2000 with its monochrome toolbar icons which only were coloured when active. Great job - if anyone from the folks in Redmond is reading this topic: Copy license Zain Adeel's design to use instead of the messy looking one in your screenshots please. 1Apple changed the sidebar icons in Finder from coloured to monochrome in OS X 10.7 'Lion'. Thank you. I wasnt going for the OSX lion look .. But it looks alot like it because of the monochrome icons. I tried other color but i prefer this as its more professional While others hated it, I personally loved it when Apple went monochromatic with iTunes' sidebar buttons and later on system-wide with OS X Lion. It just radiates a sense of tranquility and allows you to fully focus on content rather than window chrome. To me the Ribbon on the other hand looks like an onorganized explosion of different sized icons, colors, text, blank space, tabs stacked on top of more stacks and whatnot. It seems cluttered, messy and really steals away the focus of what really matters: content. When I focus on the content in while working with the Finder, Safari, Mail etc. the window chrome (on OS X Lion there's only the title and toolbar) sort of blurs away and doesn't take away my attention. When using Windows 8's Windows Explorer the Ribbon keeps screaming "HELLOOHOO! I'M HERE!!!", something I find extremely annoying. You basically took what Apple did to OS X Lion and its apps and applied it to Windows Explorer. Your modification takes away the emphasis from the Ribbon and shifts it to the window's content, the way it should be. On top of that the window has a more balanced appearance instead of looking like it could collapse at any moment under the Ribbon's weight. I like it. (Y) Thank u Neo. This wouldve been my reply. Exactly this!!! Perfectly put by Neo. Thats the reason they are monochrome. Because they are too loud the way they are and distract us from the content. To all the ignorant. THIS IS HOW I THINK RIBBON SHOULD BE THEMED! it is not MY CONCEPT of ribbon. I would imagine something different. This is just how they can choose to theme it for a change. And to others.. Glossy glassy buttons are done to death!!!.. Metallic buttons are done to DEATH!. so like other with thick gradients. I went for something like rubber touch. Flatter. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1055386-concept-new-ribbon-ui/#findComment-594624028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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