George Lucas Now Says That Han NEVER Shot First

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George Lucas Now Says That Han NEVER Shot First As He Shoves Star Wars 3D Down Your Throat

History revisionists. I hate them. But not as much as I hate George Lucas for making Han shoot last. Now, with Star Wars 3D about to arrive to the theaters, Lucas has completely lost it. He now says that Han NEVER shot first:

The controversy over who shot first, Greedo or Han Solo, in Episode IV, what I did was try to clean up the confusion, but obviously it upset people because they wanted Solo [who seemed to be the one who shot first in the original] to be a cold-blooded killer, but he actually isn't. It had been done in all close-ups and it was confusing about who did what to whom. I put a little wider shot in there that made it clear that Greedo is the one who shot first, but everyone wanted to think that Han shot first, because they wanted to think that he actually just gunned him down.

Poppycock.

George, how do you have the thermal detonators to try to rewrite history in this way? Do you think we are stupid? Wasn't it enough to paint that stupid laser blast coming at an stupid angle from Greedo? Do you really think that, if Greedo shot first, he would have missed Han at that distance? Was he the son of two Stormtroopers?

No, George, you can draw all the lasers you want and add all the wider shots you want, but you can't rewrite history.

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Come on, George. It's time to put away the crack pipe. Han Solo shot first, end of discussion.

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Part of me wishes now that Lucas had just died after Jedi. It just makes me sad sometimes that my youth was shaped by something wonderful he made but he has spent my entire adult life trying to destroy and ruin it.

Every time I see one of those Vodafone adverts with Yoda in I die a little more inside.

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^^ Yep right after the "Have" you see a little flash on the wall, and then Han shoots.

And you can clearly see/hear Greedo's gun go off first. It happens pretty fast but its clear Greedo shot first.

EDIT: Apparently, the scene was edited later to show Greedo shooting first but I guess in the original 1977 theatrical version, Solo shot first. Whether or not Lucas had a bad angle/close up in the theatrical version is anyone's guess and will probably always be open for debate. I tend to believe Lucas only because Solo doesnt come off as a cold blooded killer in any of the other scenes/movies.

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And you can clearly see/hear Greedo's gun go off first. It happens pretty fast but its clear Greedo shot first.

EDIT: Apparently, the scene was edited later to show Greedo shooting first but I guess in the original 1977 theatrical version, Solo shot first.

Here is the original:

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Here is the original:[/media]

Kinda looks like they skipped past Greedo shooting and only showed Solo. That scene looked odd and possible Lucas edited it to include Greedo's part and him shooting first. Solo doesnt come off any other time as a cold blooded killer.

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Kinda looks like they skipped past Greedo shooting and only showed Solo. That scene looked odd and possible Lucas edited it to include Greedo's part and him shooting first. Solo doesnt come off any other time as a cold blooded killer.

I think that is the point that the fans make in argument against Lucus changing it to show Greedo shot first. Part of the story is Han going from a greedy self-centered son of a bitch to a noble man who helps the rebels win. You know, character development.

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I think that is the point that the fans make in argument against Lucus changing it to show Greedo shot first. Part of the story is Han going from a greedy self-centered son of a bitch to a noble man who helps the rebels win. You know, character development.

Pretty big/fast change in character for Solo tho.

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Kinda looks like they skipped past Greedo shooting and only showed Solo. That scene looked odd and possible Lucas edited it to include Greedo's part and him shooting first. Solo doesnt come off any other time as a cold blooded killer.

Even here, Han's not a cold-blooded killer. Greedo is clearly going to shoot him. He has said as much. Just because Han shot first doesn't mean it wasn't self-defense. It draws its inspiration from a Western Saloon shootout.

Regardless, Han is a rogue, a smuggler, and a scoundrel. Han shoots first.

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I think that is the point that the fans make in argument against Lucus changing it to show Greedo shot first. Part of the story is Han going from a greedy self-centered son of a bitch to a noble man who helps the rebels win. You know, character development.

Lucas doesn't understand character development. Screenwriters like Lawrence Kasdan do. Directors like Irvin Kershnerdo. Producers like Gary Kurtz do. Editors like Lucas's ex-wife do. Note that she left him during JEDI and he hasn't had his will challenged by anyone since...which is why he hasn't had he hasn't made a good film since as well.

These are the people who made the original Star Wars from Lucas's wild and scattered notes. And those are the people who Lucas didn't have involved in the prequels...and it shows.

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Dont know why anyone bothers with this anymore. Lucas has butchered the original movies beyond recognition. I personally dont watch them unless they are on TV where I dont realy pay attention. I have some old VHS and DVD copies, those are the only ones I will ever buy, none of the jumped up, 3D-fied, distorted storyline BS he is trying to push. People should stop watching and buying his crap, maybe then he'll listen.

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Even here, Han's not a cold-blooded killer. Greedo is clearly going to shoot him. He has said as much. Just because Han shot first doesn't mean it wasn't self-defense. It draws its inspiration from a Western Saloon shootout.

Regardless, Han is a rogue, a smuggler, and a scoundrel. Han shoots first.

In the theatrical version, yes Solo shot first but that could of been in the original cut and just left out in the movie as well. Who knows since new releases of movies come out with missing/left out scenes all the time. You can either believe Lucas or not and this is something that will probably always be debated. I am just going by the rest of the movies and how he acted there. There is a difference in being greedy and a cold blooded killer.

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I seriously can't believe this thread exists ... and I seriously can't believe anyone gives a flying s**t ... I swear, geeks need to SERIOUSLY get a life :D

But dude! we all thought Harry Potter shot Vadar first. Now we find out it was Bilbo and Gandalf? My whole world is falling apart. Someone call that tv show that busts myths.. ghosthunters!

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Love starwars but love even more that I didn't turn out like this, making an issue over who shot first. It doesn't matter who shot first after the movie they were all raped by hobbits. /thread

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It's kind of like the TV show "The Shield" if you think about.

Imagine what would have happened if the director went back to the end of the first episode of "The Shield" and re-edited the scene so Vic Mackey shot Terry in self defense. Wrap your head around that one!

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But dude! we all thought Harry Potter shot Vadar first. Now we find out it was Bilbo and Gandalf? My whole world is falling apart. Someone call that tv show that busts myths.. ghosthunters!

This is definitely squatch territory.

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I seriously can't believe this thread exists ... and I seriously can't believe anyone gives a flying s**t ... I swear, geeks need to SERIOUSLY get a life :D

PMSL HAHAHAAH

I was just about to say that and then I saw ur post loool

And i thought i was bad!

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