htcz Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Hey How do you make a ReFS partition in Windows 8? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted March 1, 2012 Supervisor Share Posted March 1, 2012 for now I believe it's only available on the server version Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594695496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
htcz Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 Another failure :( Thank you. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594695504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrophile Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I do not think this is a failure... refs has little use in a client operating system, IMO... but I'd welcome any arguments to the contrary... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594697020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
statm1 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 As it has been described by Paul Thurrott not including it with Windows 8 RTM is exactly how they did the switch over from FAT32 to NTFS. It was a server only thing when it originally came out as well. Give it time to be out in the public and kinks worked out and it will eventually work its way over to the client(Windows 8). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594697032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphen Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I have tried formatting a usb drive with REFS, the manual way; Quote DISKPART> format FS=REFS LABEL="REFS TEST" QUICK 0 percent completed DiskPart has encountered an error: The system cannot find the file specified. See the System Event Log for more information. DISKPART> format FS=REFS QUICK 0 percent completed DiskPart has encountered an error: The system cannot find the file specified. See the System Event Log for more information. Nothing in event log. Also Tried with Paragon: Quote DISKPART> format FS=Protogon QUICK 0 percent completed Virtual Disk Service error: The file system is incompatible. but, that message seems to be quite standard; Quote DISKPART> format FS=neobond QUICK 0 percent completed Virtual Disk Service error: The file system is incompatible. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594697048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalalawawawa Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Why a failure? It is still not fully developed, you cannot boot an OS using it.It will most likely make its way into Windows 9 (at the earliest) or Windows 10. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594697050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
htcz Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 Quote I do not think this is a failure... refs has little use in a client operating system, IMO... but I'd welcome any arguments to the contrary... [ Simply it is based on NTFS but alot better. Quote Why a failure? It is still not fully developed, you cannot boot an OS using it.It will most likely make its way into Windows 9 (at the earliest) or Windows 10. My post above. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594697554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted March 2, 2012 Supervisor Share Posted March 2, 2012 From Techspot: Quote It will only be available for Windows Server 8 products initially, with Microsoft stating it plans to fully test the file system before offering it on other Windows 8 products in the future. This has always been the way Microsoft have done things. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594697566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nik Louch Subscriber² Posted March 2, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted March 2, 2012 Quote Simply it is based on NTFS but alot better. Thanks for the technical discussion Nick H., ~Johnny and ahhell 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594697578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
htcz Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 On 02/03/2012 at 12:43, nik louch said: Thanks for the technical discussion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Server_8#ReFS There's your technical discussion. No need to thank me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594698248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nik Louch Subscriber² Posted March 2, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted March 2, 2012 I know what ReFS is. Stating "Simply it is based on NTFS but alot better" does not answer the question as to why it's supposedly a failure for it not be on a consumer preview of a client OS. ahhell 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594698256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
htcz Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 On 02/03/2012 at 17:01, nik louch said: I know what ReFS is. Stating "Simply it is based on NTFS but alot better" does not answer the question as to why it's supposedly a failure for it not be on a consumer preview of a client OS. Preview............. :o Could that be a keyword? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594698260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nik Louch Subscriber² Posted March 2, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted March 2, 2012 What point are you trying to make here? You claim it's a failure. How is it a failure? ahhell 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594698278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
htcz Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 On 02/03/2012 at 17:07, nik louch said: What point are you trying to make here? You claim it's a failure. How is it a failure? I did not comment that ReFS is a failure. I commented it that not allowing (all) people to preview it is a failure. Please read my posts next time :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594698288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nik Louch Subscriber² Posted March 2, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted March 2, 2012 Quote I did not comment that ReFS is a failure. I commented it that not allowing (all) people to preview it is a failure. OK, yes, I know that. But this is a preview of the CLIENT not the SERVER. It's not meant to be in the CLIENT yet, it will be rolled out in the SERVER primarily. ahhell 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594698304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 It may never even be in a client OS. as it's a server designed file system which may not hold many advantages for client, especially not as client move over to SSD's more and more and it might be more beneficial to move to an entirely new file system designed with SSd's in mind. Either way you won't see ReFS in the final version of Win 8 either so it won't be in the "preview" of the client. As to it being "better" than NTFS. yes, for it's purposes, much like a apple peeler is better at peeling apples than oranges. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594698356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
htcz Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 On 02/03/2012 at 17:19, nik louch said: OK, yes, I know that. But this is a preview of the CLIENT not the SERVER. It's not meant to be in the CLIENT yet, it will be rolled out in the SERVER primarily. The client will at some point be compatible with it. On 02/03/2012 at 17:33, HawkMan said: It may never even be in a client OS. I beg to differ. It may not be in Windows 8 (client) but it might be in the next version of the client... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594698360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nik Louch Subscriber² Posted March 2, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted March 2, 2012 Quote The client will at some point be compatible with it. Quote It may not be in Windows 8 (client) but it might be in the next version of the client. Dude, so explain why it should be in this version of this client? Moreover, copatibility with is is probably already there as far as needs be. That doesn't mean that the client should be able to format disks in a file-system that the client doesn't support locally! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594698386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthonyd Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 On 01/03/2012 at 19:04, htcz said: Another failure :( Thank you. Another guy having no clue about what he is talking about. :( Thank you. ahhell 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594698392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 On 02/03/2012 at 17:36, htcz said: The client will at some point be compatible with it. I beg to differ. It may not be in Windows 8 (client) but it might be in the next version of the client... Differ ? do you have a problem understanding the meaning of the word "may" ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594698462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh the Nerd Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 If it's coming to the client in Windows 9, you can expect in the Windows 9 Consumer Preview, but it's not coming in Windows 8 so it doesn't belong in any Windows 8 previews. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594698592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted March 2, 2012 Veteran Share Posted March 2, 2012 On 02/03/2012 at 07:20, morphen said: DISKPART> format FS=neobond QUICK 0 percent completed Virtual Disk Service error: The file system is incompatible. Really? huh weird... I format all my drives in neobond and they work fine... little wobbly from drinking while writing files, but it works Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594698600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
htcz Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 Last reply. Im sick of arguing with kids. On 02/03/2012 at 17:45, nik louch said: Dude, so explain why it should be in this version of this client? Moreover, copatibility with is is probably already there as far as needs be. That doesn't mean that the client should be able to format disks in a file-system that the client doesn't support locally! It should be in this version of the client to preview it and see what works and doesnt work. Improvements with/without a server being involved, etc. On 02/03/2012 at 17:47, Anthonyd said: Another guy having no clue about what he is talking about. :( Thank you. Another member contributing nothing to the thread :( Thank you. On 02/03/2012 at 18:15, HawkMan said: Differ ? do you have a problem understanding the meaning of the word "may" ? Yes. I think it will be in the final version (of both) but it may not. My personal opinion is it WILL but I understand because of the reasons and past facts that have been stated here that it may not. Do you have a problem understanding the thread? I won't reply anymore to this thread as my question has been answered. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594699002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthonyd Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 It doesn't brings anything usefull for client. You might want to use "storage" if needed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1061432-how-do-i-make-a-refs-partition/#findComment-594699144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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