Win8 Consumer Preview Disable Metro

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

Interesting! Wonder if they are seeing what the feedback is?

If MS listened to feedback then Vista would never had been released. :)

[HawkMan]

I actually like Windows 8 Server because it doesn't come with any Metro Apps installed since i am not interested in them. I wonder if Businesses get option to disable Metro Start Menu, i am sure that will be one of the questions for Microsoft.

Since server doesn't let you disable it and has the metro start, why would business ?

as for installing without the Metro apps, that would be up to the administrator and his automated setup script.

[Semtex]

Interesting! Wonder if they are seeing what the feedback is?

I think we don't need so much from them, just clear choice, Menu start -> option to enable :D

[techguy77]

Since server doesn't let you disable it and has the metro start, why would business ?

as for installing without the Metro apps, that would be up to the administrator and his automated setup script.

I meant Server doesn't get preinstalled with any of Metro crappola Apps. It least that **** is removed.

That's hilarious. What the hell do you think Win8 is targeted at genius?

The Mobile market is cutting out the bottom of MS's cash cow and this is release is a attempt to stem it.

I know Windows 8 is target for Tablets and Mobile devices therefore this should be called Windows 8 Mobile.

[Wakers]

Whz is it so hard to understand for people that Windows 8 is targeted at all devices, and not just a particular type?

That should be painfully obvious even to the most novice user.

[MidnightDevil]

Would actually well played if MS deployed an update to revamp a brand new start menu :b Giving the users two options to evaluate in separate times the most acessible interface.

[Astra.Xtreme]

Whz is it so hard to understand for people that Windows 8 is targeted at all devices, and not just a particular type?

That should be painfully obvious even to the most novice user.

Because Metro makes no sense without a touch screen.

It's like using a touchscreen with a stylus... It's a huge pain in the ass.... Why make it more difficult than it has to be?

[mrp04]

It's like using a touchscreen with a stylus... It's a huge pain in the ass.... Why make it more difficult than it has to be?

My touchscreen works wonderfully with a stylus (wacom pen)

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

I know Windows 8 is target for Tablets and Mobile devices

Your opinion, it's what you believe. It's not what you "know".

[Wakers]

Because Metro makes no sense without a touch screen.

It's like using a touchscreen with a stylus... It's a huge pain in the ass.... Why make it more difficult than it has to be?

Yes it does. It's a start menu on a full screen that gives you an overview of your system. If you spend ten minutes organising (oh I know, you shouldn't have to organise anything, ever) it, then it's a boon. For everything else you can be in the deskopt. The system works just fine if you give it a chance.

Of course, this is IT - the sector that is based on rapid change and advancement, full of the people who are the most resistant to change and advancement.

[Gav86]

Interesting! Wonder if they are seeing what the feedback is?

No, it's a test release - they want people to test the new functionality & interface.

[Jason S. Global Moderator]

i dont mind the metro UI but even with out it Win 8 has lots of cool new things that make my everyday work easier (computer tech)

like what? really, i cant find a single thing that's beneficial over 7

[Wakers]

The new task manager is much more useful (it even has a startup panel with estimated impact on startut times), the new copy and paste dialogue incorporates multiple operations into one windows, has a pause and cancel button that actually works without hanging explorer, too (a well known problem when copying large files).

Performance seems to be even better than Windows 7, espeically on my very mediocre laptop. I expect this to only improve once drivers become better suited to Win 8.

The new ribbon interface of explorer is a godsend, a good idea taken from Office and applied to the rest of the OS.

[Astra.Xtreme]

Yes it does. It's a start menu on a full screen that gives you an overview of your system. If you spend ten minutes organising (oh I know, you shouldn't have to organise anything, ever) it, then it's a boon. For everything else you can be in the deskopt. The system works just fine if you give it a chance.

Of course, this is IT - the sector that is based on rapid change and advancement, full of the people who are the most resistant to change and advancement.

Except that constantly having to switch between Metro and the normal desktop is counter-productive. It's a huge waste of clicks and doing gestures with a mouse is plain silly.

People like me that are heavily involved in design and multi-tasking on a daily basis will find that Metro gets in the way and doesn't cater to productivity. Is this the same for the normal user? No.

Actually for the normal user who barely knows how to use Windows in it's current form, it will be extremely frustrating to be forced to learn something completely different.

Only time will tell, but due to the overwhelming number of complaints that have cycled the internet since Metro was revealed, I don't see Win 8 doing very well.

[HawkMan]

opening the start menu is by that logic also counter-productive and a huge waste of clicks as it's the same things.

And there's nothign you need to do gestures for that you need to do many times a day. and it is in fact faster to get to all the management tools due to the lower left power menu.

[Motoko.]

I'll grow fond of metro in time.

[firey]

I'll grow fond of metro in time.

As will I.. when it can be disabled.

[migo]

Except that constantly having to switch between Metro and the normal desktop is counter-productive. It's a huge waste of clicks and doing gestures with a mouse is plain silly.

The only counterproductive part is that legacy mode behaves like a VM rather than being integrated. If each app in legacy mode had its own entry in the task switcher you wouldn't even have to even use it.

[Wakers]

The only counterproductive part is that legacy mode behaves like a VM rather than being integrated. If each app in legacy mode had its own entry in the task switcher you wouldn't even have to even use it.

Alt + tab. Each app that's running in desktop environment or metro has a thumbnail.

[techguy77]

Alt + tab. Each app that's running in desktop environment or metro has a thumbnail.

Alt Tab is a good for quick view but can you put 4 windows in Metro Start Menu opened in the same time? No you cannot therefore interface is epic failure. Oh let me guess switch back to Desktop :D Oh i guess i have all apps i will ever need on Desktop...why should i use Metro Apps? Let me unistall them and unpin them oh crap Metro still gets in a way :cry:

[Motoko.]

As will I.. when it can be disabled.

you're not disabling mine, fixin me a bowl of mac and cheese

[Salutary7]

The weird thing about this whole metro business is the desktop is treated as if it were an app. On startup, AFAIK, you can't actually get to the desktop unless you click on its tile (as you would with an app). Furthermore, the desktop can then be closed (dragged to the bottom), removing it from the metro side bar. Although it's still running in the background, along with any desktop apps you've opened, you still have to "open" it again with the desktop tile (or you can alt-tab and magically the desktop is an item on the sidebar again). So from a UI perspective, the start page isnt just acting as a splash screen for the desktop--it's hierarchically above the desktop. Maybe it's a minor issue for most people, but that change REALLY makes me want to ditch metro for the old start menu mechanic.

[Dot Matrix]

The weird thing about this whole metro business is the desktop is treated as if it were an app. On startup, AFAIK, you can't actually get to the desktop unless you click on its tile (as you would with an app). Furthermore, the desktop can then be closed (dragged to the bottom), removing it from the metro side bar. Although it's still running in the background, along with any desktop apps you've opened, you still have to "open" it again with the desktop tile (or you can alt-tab and magically the desktop is an item on the sidebar again). So from a UI perspective, the start page isnt just acting as a splash screen for the desktop--it's hierarchically above the desktop. Maybe it's a minor issue for most people, but that change REALLY makes me want to ditch metro for the old start menu mechanic.

Did you know the "Desktop" in Windows was first treated as an app too? It wasn't until Windows 95, that the desktop became it's own entity.

[Eminem25]

Actually Neobond, I hope they do or we gonna have another Win Vista Fiasco.

And head of Windows Division as big as he can get no one can stand in the way of the PEOPLE.

[Salutary7]

Did you know the "Desktop" in Windows was first treated as an app too? It wasn't until Windows 95, that the desktop became it's own entity.

I may be wrong here, but I seem to remember that in every other version of Windows there was always a desktop on which everything else resided. The program manager, for instance, was launched from the desktop, not the other way around.