migo Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I was originally thinking that my crashes were due to the system overheating, but I just had IE freeze on me a few minutes after resuming from sleep, so the system was still very cool. I have only had crashes in metro apps. Solitaire, Internet Explorer, App Store - haven't spent much time in anything else Metro. No crashes ever in Legacy mode, including playing fairly process intensive games. I'm assuming all the Metro apps are done in WinRT, and it seems they aren't appropriately sandboxed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpGreen Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I was originally thinking that my crashes were due to the system overheating, but I just had IE freeze on me a few minutes after resuming from sleep, so the system was still very cool. I have only had crashes in metro apps. Solitaire, Internet Explorer, App Store - haven't spent much time in anything else Metro. No crashes ever in Legacy mode, including playing fairly process intensive games. I'm assuming all the Metro apps are done in WinRT, and it seems they aren't appropriately sandboxed. What does crashing have to do with the sandbox? Also yea I've had more crashes in Metro apps on the CP then in any other apps. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594707146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
migo Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 Apps should be sandboxed so when they crash they don't take down the whole system. I can't even Ctrl+Alt+Del Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594707154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArialBlue Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Playing Solitare had me hard reboot three times in 20 minutes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594707192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grinch Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Haven't had an issue personally, though I did a clean install. Did any of you do upgrade installations? FiB3R 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594707196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
migo Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 Clean install for me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594707214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Haven't had an issue personally, though I did a clean install. Did any of you do upgrade installations? I've had no real issues either with this clean install. In fact, I played Solitaire earlier in MetroSnap (left) mode. What I would like to see are more card games adopt WinRT and MetroSnap. An observation for the detractors and two-hour-evaluators of the CP that ran back to the comfort of Windows 7 - because of the resolution limits of non-desktops, if anything, MetroSnap is MORE suited to desktops than any other hardware capable of running WCP, including, if not especially, Ultrabooks or netbooks. While a MetroSnapped app is legible on a smaller screen, nothing beats a taller - 1680x1050 or better - resolution for side-by-side. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594707236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
migo Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 Too bad I only have 1280x800. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594707268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoffel Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 The Metro apps die on me too once and a while, but they never make me reboot my system. Then again we were warned that the apps were in a very early stage. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594707280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpGreen Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Apps should be sandboxed so when they crash they don't take down the whole system. I can't even Ctrl+Alt+Del Ohh...I misread that. I didn't know the crashing apps were bringing down everything. In that case, that has not happened to me before and is certainly weird. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594707286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArialBlue Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) I think most of my crashes happen in METRO (my system lives on Windows drivers, nforce 15.56 drivers, and W8 NV drivers (297.73 or something?) Absolute freeze too. Sound will keep on looping forever, etc. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594707292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emon Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Every time I wanted to play "Cut the rope" it froze the whole system. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594707294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
migo Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 I think most of my crashes happen in METRO (my system lives on Windows drivers, nforce 15.56 drivers, and W8 NV drivers (297.73 or something?) Absolute freeze too. Sound will keep on looping forever, etc. Interesting, I'm using GeForce and nForce as well. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594707320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kratzie Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Only one lockup for me, the Maps app shat it self when I entered a location. so much for Ctrl Alt Del. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594707348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyn6 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I've had a few issues but not many. Just for reference my GPU is a Radeon 4870. Might be an Nvidia thing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594707364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techguy77 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I am .NET developer for the past 5 years and i can tell you that WinRT is pile of crap. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594707678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakem1 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I am .NET developer for the past 5 years and i can tell you that WinRT is pile of crap. How long have you been a troll for? Stoffel, funkydude and Aethec 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594707780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunny2k6 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 if you go back a few years mr .net developer ...... everyone and there dog said .net was a pile of crap .... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594707790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XerXis Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I am .NET developer for the past 5 years and i can tell you that WinRT is pile of crap. you're actually funny FalseAgent and Calum 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594707800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Well on a plus note, I haven't had any BSODs, windows tends to just totally freeze without stating any reason why now :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594707806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraud OS 11 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 For me the most unstable app is the Photos app. Regularly crashes once in a while at launch. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594707874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
migo Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 Can people with/without freezing and crashing report whether they're on nVidia, Intel or AMD setups? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594708136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalalawawawa Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 I am .NET developer for the past 5 years and i can tell you that WinRT is pile of crap. Oh, they why did you post that you're using C and C++ to develop stuff, if you're a .NET developer? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594710672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester0 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Never got a crash so far (Intel GPU) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594710696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalseAgent Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 you're actually funny LOL! anyway, I think WinRT apps seem to run faster than Win32 apps without bringing the rest of the system down. I haven't had any major system crashes or freezes, and for the Metro apps that do crash (understandable, app previews are not representative of the WinRT platform anyway), they just blank out, and the start screen reappears. Wonderful. Finally no more "windows is looking for a solution to the problem" bullcrap. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/#findComment-594710742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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