Recommended Posts

I was originally thinking that my crashes were due to the system overheating, but I just had IE freeze on me a few minutes after resuming from sleep, so the system was still very cool.

I have only had crashes in metro apps. Solitaire, Internet Explorer, App Store - haven't spent much time in anything else Metro. No crashes ever in Legacy mode, including playing fairly process intensive games. I'm assuming all the Metro apps are done in WinRT, and it seems they aren't appropriately sandboxed.

Link to comment
https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1062336-so-winrt-just-isnt-very-stable/
Share on other sites

I was originally thinking that my crashes were due to the system overheating, but I just had IE freeze on me a few minutes after resuming from sleep, so the system was still very cool.

I have only had crashes in metro apps. Solitaire, Internet Explorer, App Store - haven't spent much time in anything else Metro. No crashes ever in Legacy mode, including playing fairly process intensive games. I'm assuming all the Metro apps are done in WinRT, and it seems they aren't appropriately sandboxed.

What does crashing have to do with the sandbox? Also yea I've had more crashes in Metro apps on the CP then in any other apps.

Haven't had an issue personally, though I did a clean install. Did any of you do upgrade installations?

I've had no real issues either with this clean install.

In fact, I played Solitaire earlier in MetroSnap (left) mode.

What I would like to see are more card games adopt WinRT and MetroSnap.

An observation for the detractors and two-hour-evaluators of the CP that ran back to the comfort of Windows 7 - because of the resolution limits of non-desktops, if anything, MetroSnap is MORE suited to desktops than any other hardware capable of running WCP, including, if not especially, Ultrabooks or netbooks. While a MetroSnapped app is legible on a smaller screen, nothing beats a taller - 1680x1050 or better - resolution for side-by-side.

Apps should be sandboxed so when they crash they don't take down the whole system. I can't even Ctrl+Alt+Del

Ohh...I misread that. I didn't know the crashing apps were bringing down everything. In that case, that has not happened to me before and is certainly weird.

I think most of my crashes happen in METRO (my system lives on Windows drivers, nforce 15.56 drivers, and W8 NV drivers (297.73 or something?)

Absolute freeze too. Sound will keep on looping forever, etc.

you're actually funny

LOL!

anyway, I think WinRT apps seem to run faster than Win32 apps without bringing the rest of the system down. I haven't had any major system crashes or freezes, and for the Metro apps that do crash (understandable, app previews are not representative of the WinRT platform anyway), they just blank out, and the start screen reappears. Wonderful. Finally no more "windows is looking for a solution to the problem" bullcrap.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • The quantum search for Time's origin had an equally mind-boggling conclusion by Sayan Sen Image by Steve Johnson via Pexels A theoretical study from researchers at the University of Surrey suggested that the direction of time may not be fundamentally fixed in certain quantum systems. The work, published in Scientific Reports, examined how the “arrow of time” could emerge from microscopic physics and found that time-reversal symmetry can remain intact even in models used to describe processes such as energy loss and thermalisation. The arrow of time refers to the observed one-way direction from past to future in everyday life. In macroscopic processes, this is easy to see. Spilled milk spreads across a table and does not gather back into a glass, and heat flows from hotter objects to colder ones. These processes shape the common sense idea that time moves in a single direction. However, at the level of fundamental physics, many equations do not prefer a direction of time. Time-reversal symmetry means that the same physical laws can describe a system whether time moves forward or backward. This has made it difficult to explain why irreversible behaviour appears in the large-scale world even when the underlying rules do not require it. Dr Andrea Rocco, Associate Professor in Physics and Mathematical Biology at the University of Surrey, described this contrast: "One way to explain this is when you look at a process like spilt milk spreading across a table, it's clear that time is moving forward. But if you were to play that in reverse, like a movie, you'd immediately know something was wrong – it would be hard to believe milk could just gather back into a glass. However, there are processes, such as the motion of a pendulum, that look just as believable in reverse. The puzzle is that, at the most fundamental level, the laws of physics resemble the pendulum; they do not account for irreversible processes. Our findings suggest that while our common experience tells us that time only moves one way, we are just unaware that the opposite direction would have been equally possible." The study focused on open quantum systems, which are quantum systems that interact with a surrounding environment. This environment, often described as a heat bath, can exchange energy and information with the system. The researchers used this framework to study how a direction of time might appear even when the underlying physics does not enforce one. A key part of the analysis involved the Markov approximation. This is a simplification used in many models where the system is assumed not to retain memory of its past states. The idea is that changes depend only on the current state, not on earlier history. This is commonly used when studying thermalisation, which is the process where a system settles into equilibrium with its environment. The study also used concepts such as master equations, including the Lindblad and Pauli equations, which describe how probabilities of different quantum states change over time. Another related model discussed was quantum Brownian motion, which describes the random-like movement of a quantum particle interacting continuously with its environment. In these descriptions, a “memory kernel” can appear, which is a mathematical term that accounts for how past states influence current behaviour. The researchers found that applying the Markov approximation did not break time-reversal symmetry. Even when the system interacted with an effectively infinite heat bath, the resulting equations of motion remained symmetric in time. This meant that the same mathematical description could, in principle, run forward or backward in time without contradiction. The study further showed that standard frameworks used in open quantum systems, including quantum Brownian motion and master equations like the Lindblad and Pauli forms, could be written in a time-symmetric way. These equations are typically used to describe processes that look irreversible, such as dissipation and thermalisation, but the results suggested they can also be interpreted as allowing evolution in both time directions. Thomas Guff, Research Fellow in Quantum Thermodynamics, said: "The surprising part of this project was that even after making the standard simplifying assumption to our equations describing open quantum systems, the equations still behaved the same way whether the system was moving forwards or backwards in time. When we carefully worked through the maths, we found that this behaviour had to be the case because a key part of the equation, the "memory kernel," is symmetrical in time. We also found a small but important detail which is usually overlooked – a time discontinuous factor emerged that kept the time-symmetry property intact. It’s unusual to see such a mathematical mechanism in a physics equation because it's not continuous, and it was very surprising to see it appear so naturally." The researchers also noted that deriving a one-way arrow of time from time-reversal symmetric microscopic dynamics remains an open problem across fields such as thermodynamics, statistical mechanics, particle physics, and cosmology. Their results suggested that some standard descriptions of irreversible behaviour in open quantum systems may be better understood using a time-symmetric formulation of Markovianity. According to the study, processes such as thermalisation, which are usually treated as irreversible, could in theory be described in a way that allows evolution in either time direction under the same rules. This does not imply that time reversal occurs in everyday life, but rather that the underlying equations do not strictly enforce a single direction. Overall, the findings suggested that the perceived direction of time may emerge from how physical systems are modelled and approximated, rather than from a fundamental asymmetry in the laws themselves. The researchers noted that this perspective could have implications for ongoing work in quantum mechanics, thermodynamics, and cosmology on the origin of time’s arrow. Source: University of Surrey, Nature This article was generated with some help from AI and reviewed by an editor. Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, this material is used for the purpose of news reporting. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing
    • A bit premature... 100% Marketing. Bizarre.
  • Recent Achievements

    • Reacting Well
      BizSAR earned a badge
      Reacting Well
    • First Post
      AndreaB earned a badge
      First Post
    • Week One Done
      Huge Trailer earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Week One Done
      Classifyskilleducation earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Month Later
      eurospharma62 earned a badge
      One Month Later
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      581
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      182
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      75
    4. 4
      Michael Scrip
      73
    5. 5
      neufuse
      64
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!