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well, it is a mobile OS in big part... who wants startup sound on their tablet or laptop? don't think there will be on default setting...

can you imagine a startup sound every time you unlocked your tablet/phone/whatever device? yikes! (if it was only a reboot startup sound, how ofter do you reboot your phone or tablet? rarely)

can you imagine a startup sound every time you unlocked your tablet/phone/whatever device? yikes! (if it was only a reboot startup sound, how ofter do you reboot your phone or tablet? rarely)

My Windows Phone makes a sound every time I unlock it :laugh: It's just a subtle little click though and I quite like it.

Having said that, I don't see the point of the Windows startup sound and certainly don't think it should be there for people with slow computers :rolleyes:

Not everyone has modern hardware now do they?

No, but Windows 8 happens to boot up incredibly fast even on older hardware.

And yes, the sound was removed for performance reasons. I think startup sounds are annoying, and it's not only Windows. It's kinda funny when a MacBook goes BOOOOOOONG when some of my friends turn it on in a discrete environment.

I agree with most everyone; the startup sound was kind of stupid. I'm glad they made a separate checkbox for it in the Sounds schemes dialog even. I've always turned it off. On the other hand, I really hope they restore the ability to change your system fonts (Window titles, dialog box, icon font, etc.) I really can't understand why they'd remove that functionality completely, at least for desktop/laptop devices.

I agree with most everyone; the startup sound was kind of stupid. I'm glad they made a separate checkbox for it in the Sounds schemes dialog even. I've always turned it off. On the other hand, I really hope they restore the ability to change your system fonts (Window titles, dialog box, icon font, etc.) I really can't understand why they'd remove that functionality completely, at least for desktop/laptop devices.

I agree, I don't like that I can't change the system fonts to what I want, like in Win7 and previous versions.

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Just one question.... How come a little kb audio file impacts that dramatically the performance?

If the systems can boot in as little as 3sec then playing a 1.x sec sound is about 33% of boot time? :/

If the systems can boot in as little as 3sec then playing a 1.x sec sound is about 33% of boot time? :/

The boot process doesn't come to a halt while the sound plays, the sound can easily continue to play while the system is booting. It's basically the processing time required to start and play the sound... which is effectively nothing at all on anything manufactured in the last ~15-20yrs.

I can definitely say that removing bootup/shutdown/logon sounds has done nothing at all to improve the speed on Win7. Playing a couple second long audio clip just isn't remotely stressful enough on the hardware to have even the tiniest impact.

The boot process doesn't come to a halt while the sound plays, the sound can easily continue to play while the system is booting. It's basically the processing time required to start and play the sound... which is effectively nothing at all on anything manufactured in the last ~15-20yrs.

I can definitely say that removing bootup/shutdown/logon sounds has done nothing at all to improve the speed on Win7. Playing a couple second long audio clip just isn't remotely stressful enough on the hardware to have even the tiniest impact.

It doesn't come to a halt but I think MS had blogged that at times the boot process is so fast that it needed to wait on the sound to finish playing (or something like that, obviously IIRC).

Every little bit counts. ;) And it is frankly unnecessary.

You should have quick jingle in (U)EFI Mac-style meaning your hardware is "OK", like some other manufacturers already do. After that it isn't really required for a second one from Windows. ;)

Right, because on today's hardware a quick jingle is likely to have a severe impact on startup performance. Gimme a break.

Nobody suggested the performance impact was "severe". But a startup jingle is unnecessary and impacts system performance, as the operating system has to initialise a hardware subsystem. There are other issues as well, like the speakers being too loud or booting up your computer in a quiet environment. And I don't know about anyone else but I find hearing the XP startup sound cringe-worthy.

It would be nice if there was an option for those that want it, though it should be disabled by default.

Just one question.... How come a little kb audio file impacts that dramatically the performance?

I think it has to do with initializing the audio driver... It probably takes 3 seconds at most, but they probably chose to initialize it after the system boots up..

Sooo, shaving off 3 seconds of boot time is actually very considerable.

Nobody suggested the performance impact was "severe". But a startup jingle is unnecessary and impacts system performance, as the operating system has to initialise a hardware subsystem.

You have proof it impacts system performance in a truly noticeable way?

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