MS : Windows Release Preview (RC)- First Week of June

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Too true! I've seen people freak out about that at work on Windows 7. "OMG where'd it go?!? Stupid $%^&ing computer just lost my work!! Oh, there it is." :laugh:

AERO Peek would have been a better feature had Microsoft overhauled the desktop gadgets. Not sure why it's there when no one uses them.

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AERO Peek would have been a better feature had Microsoft overhauled the desktop gadgets. Not sure why it's there when no one uses them.

It's the same on OS X really. The whole widget/gadget concept more or less failed if you'd ask me. While they were fun in the beginning, in the end they just weren't that practical in my opinion. Then there's the fact that both Apple and Microsoft stopped improving the build-in widgets and third-parties stopped investing in it too. The smartphone/tablet made it even more redundant.

These days I hardly ever use Dashboard anymore.

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You only have to pin your favorites apps, not all installed items are showed on that list.

You are asking for group name in top, which can be an issue if you have many group. That's why you can zoom out and see the list of all your groups at once to select the one you are looking for.

I get that, i'm not saying it doesn't work the way it is, for the most part it does. All I'm saying is that there should be one or two more ways to do things and then people can go with what works better for them. I know pinning the stuff you want up front and so on is the best choice but the default behavior so far is that anything you install gets a tile slapped up there (would be nice to get a choice when installing apps ofc), and then how many people are going to bother to remove all of them? How many will even know you can name groups and move them around etc?

I just figure a good chunk of stuff (unless MS does a great job with it's tutorial) is going to go unused or unknown by the majority of future Win8 users until someone a bit more technical points it out.

Going off on another feature, since multimon was brought up yesterday, lots of people want the start screen to be able to take up all of the screens (as an option) and not just limited to one of them. Also they would like to be able to have different metro apps per screen as well, right now it seems like metro app(s) only open in the monitor you have set to open the start screen itself though you can pretty easily move the open app around.

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I get your point :)

About multi-monitor metro apps/start screen, I don't think that it's going to happen, especially for apps. Because having 2 monitors doesn't makes it a single but larger rectangle. If the screen are different, it can do something like this :

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(yes bad drawning is bad!)

Inside Windows CP, you can set where the corners match, it's not going to do a single rectangle, software wise. Hence it will be a NIGHTMARE for devs to supports this :D

edit : Neowin sux at matching post preview & final result :(

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It'd also be easier for users to figure out, I question how many will find out about zoom out even when it's got it's own button in the UI.

Zoom isn't just for Start though, semantic zoom is meant to be a standard interface convention for all Metro style apps. So you should only have to learn it in one place and then use it anywhere, at least that's the hope.

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Zoom isn't just for Start though, semantic zoom is meant to be a standard interface convention for all Metro style apps. So you should only have to learn it in one place and then use it anywhere, at least that's the hope.

That sounds good but have you seen an app yet that uses it? Outside of the start screen I don't know of any app that does.

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I've seen most apps where it applies use it - Bing Weather/Finance, Photos, Store, etc. They don't have the button in the corner because the app frameworks haven't been updated to match the Start screen yet - they seem to be about a milestone behind in general - but you can do it with touch or via Ctrl-scroll.

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Ribbon is actually good, metro is not, I wonder how one would fit all the functions of Autocad/Catia/Solidworks... into big tiles. A hint: Office 15 still retains ribbon albeit simplified interface... because that interface is really good, no metro tiles for office.

Answer: They don't. The desktop and desktop software are still going to be supported and encouraged for many uses, especially big complex productivity software. Microsoft aren't intending everything to become Metro, and all applications to become Metro applications.

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Out of the first 2 dates Caputex makes the most sense instead of E3 (though they might show something at E3). Now if it's the 8th like Paul thinks then, I dunno, maybe MS will have it's own little Win8 event? It'd be pretty short notice, the press would probably have invites already, or maybe they'll go out a week ahead of time? Only time will tell though, either way June is going to be one busy month for MS in general. There's Xbox stuff at E3, Win8 RP, VS stuff as well iirc, and towards the end you have the Windows Phone 8 developer event on the 20th which should be huge.

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I'm hoping there'll be an easy upgrade route from the Consumer Preview to the Release Preview, and not specifically

need a clean install. I've got the W8CP running almost exactly how I like it now. I'd rather not have to go all the way

back to square one, having to reinstall all my programs/apps, and reconfigure all my custom settings!

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I'm hoping there'll be an easy upgrade route from the Consumer Preview to the Release Preview, and not specifically

need a clean install. I've got the W8CP running almost exactly how I like it now. I'd rather not have to go all the way

back to square one, having to reinstall all my programs/apps, and reconfigure all my custom settings!

According to MS FAQ for WCP, you can upgrade from XP/Vista/Win7/WDP to WCP, I guess there is a good chance for upgrade to WRP

. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/faq screen982.jpg

However, forget about the win7 trick of editing sources\cversion.ini, it's a dead-end for win8

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