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I think there should be a tile/theme color control right on the start screen appbar.

actually I think it should be for every native app in the settings charm of each app.

It would make the whole system much more customizable :)

Also there should be some subtle colors for the start screen.. Like much less intense colors and darker black or a lighter white background.

8PM on the 31st in Seattle? Just my guess.

urgh

that would be 6AM in morning :( , let hope it leak by the night so i can go by playing with new toy :D

at least it is Friday!!! Fun fun fun *facepalm*

the suspense is killing me!

I would presume 5/6/7pm GMT would be when it is released (5-7hrs from now).

Hoping they put IE 10 new preview up as a standalone download for win7 then too.

Yeah, I'd love to get IE10 on Win7 as well, i use IE9 as my main now so it'd be worth it. I'll also be installing Win8RP in Vbox so it won't be my main OS till it's RTM.

lol, morning

Haven't tried but I wouldn't expect so if you sign in with a live account but I`ll give it a try once I've had my caffeine

This is what I think as well, depending on the type of account you use in Win8 you might or might not be able to delete it.

Hmm , at least apple lets you chose your own Mailing ID , which may not be the apple live ID .

The thinking behind using your MS account is that you want to sync your stuff, that's email and contacts etc etc. Otherwise if you don't then just make a local account and pick what you want to use like before? Besides, I think for most it will be their main emial account.

This is what I think as well, depending on the type of account you use in Win8 you might or might not be able to delete it.

My guess is one of two things, if you do not ever sign in with a live ID and only make a local account, 1. You won't have access to the mail app at all, similar to not having access to a load of other online MS apps like the store until you do sign in

Or 2. There will be no Hotmail account there at all and you will be able to add other accounts to the mail app

I'm leaning toward number 1 though

Vita hate is totally unwarranted, it was better than XP in EVERY WAY, only people who complain are those who had crappy system specs. And Vista after SP1 was Gold. Of course, Win 7 is totally better, but I'd take Vista over XP any day, no contest.

Vita hate is totally unwarranted, it was better than XP in EVERY WAY, only people who complain are those who had crappy system specs. And Vista after SP1 was Gold. Of course, Win 7 is totally better, but I'd take Vista over XP any day, no contest.

Yea, most of the world including MS are wrong, but you are right...

Anyway this is not a Vita or a Vista thread.

Vita hate is totally unwarranted, it was better than XP in EVERY WAY, only people who complain are those who had crappy system specs. And Vista after SP1 was Gold. Of course, Win 7 is totally better, but I'd take Vista over XP any day, no contest.

I agree. Almost every criticism was somehow related to the fact that it was a huge step forward from XP. This meant hardware vendors had to re-write drivers, software vendors had to optimize, and those which didn't had their hardware/software either slow or unusable. Also, 5 year old systems that ran XP were sluggish with Vista. That said, it was a hell of a lot smoother than the OS 9 to OS X transition.

Same is happening with 8, it is another huge step and people will take till 9 to get used to it.

Well it's good to be ahead of the game if you're likely to be dealing with it in the future. Same goes for a lot of industries where the playing field is continuously changing - it's the best way to stay on top of things and avoid playing catchup all the time.

Not really.

A) Early adopters are tech enthusiasts who won't need my help.

B) By the time RTM comes around I will start looking at the OS when its finalised.

C) A lot of businesses are running Windows XP still, I'll have plenty of time before businesses start to pick up Windows 8.

Not really.

A) Early adopters are tech enthusiasts who won't need my help.

B) By the time RTM comes around I will start looking at the OS when its finalised.

C) A lot of businesses are running Windows XP still, I'll have plenty of time before businesses start to pick up Windows 8.

People working in the tech sector - particularly stores and in support - should keep up to date with upcoming releases, like Windows 8. I'm just an enthusiast and have already tried the DP and CP, so I expect people in the sector to be more knowledgeable. Anybody that doesn't will struggle to keep up to date.
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