aiir Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 So, any changes you would make to Windows 8?. No need for the following: Start button. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charisma Veteran Posted April 25, 2012 Veteran Share Posted April 25, 2012 Give me the option of Metro or a more traditional desktop setup. Let me as the consumer choose my interface. As is being discussed in the "tablets/desktop PC" news story right now, they are two devices with two functions. They can and should communicate, synch, etc, but if I want pretty colours and boxes and an interface designed for a touchscreen, I'll use the tablet. I need my desktop to behave like a desktop. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594823655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaP Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 The ability to stay in desktop mode and encapsulate metro apps in a window. bogas04, neo1911, djdanster and 4 others 7 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594823693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Briggs Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 not sure i dont like it at all really Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594823697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris123NT Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Ability to choose interface hands down. Metro for Tablets, desktop for laptops and desktops Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594823705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Agree with the above basically. Ability to have it feel like Windows 7 (with new copy paste, speed improvements, etc) on Desktop if I so choose. Which to me means no Metro, No Tiles, standard start, etc. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594823721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganX Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Start Button returns even if it just takes you to start page. Complete elimination of the Prev App bar and return to app switching of Windows 7. New nice icons throughout system. Native ability to select custom icon for any icon in system, including library icons. Ability to move Charm bar as you can move taskbar Ability to turn off Charm Bar and use traditional start button to go to start page. Option to boot directly to Desktop. Option to "not" add icons for new app installs to Start Page. Consistent and hiccup free scrolling in all Metro apps Ability to change Start Page background to wallpaper or show desktop behind Start Page. iTunes comparable app for Windows Phone/Zune/Tablet Devices - A metro app will be fine. Better Media Player. Native Facebook Metro App. In-place context sensitive menus in native Metro Apps. Native Metro Fitness app to log diet/exercise with a Windows Phone companion app with GPS recording. More Stable USB 3.0 Drivers for NEC, and TI chipsets. Native Thunderbold support. More GPU-acceleration wherever applicable. More utilization of multiple cores. More utilization of memory for systems with 16-32GB. Metro Geometry Wars, bundled. Metro Lode Runner, bundled. Metro I made a game with Z0mbies, bundled. Purchase and play all XBLA games on Windows 8. Full Bitlocker (TPM Support) in ALL versions of Windows 8. Native Blu-Ray playback support (MS subsidizes license fee for codec :) Bundled DivX, Xvid, and native MKV codecs/playback support. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594823781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Xinok Subscriber² Posted April 25, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted April 25, 2012 Somehow merge the desktop and Metro to form a single interface. Mando and neo1911 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594823811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethec Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Program desktop apps using WinRT. Not necessarily the same apps you use when full-screen, but...expose WinRT for desktop apps, so that developpers could make desktop apps which are sandboxed, do not leave junk behind on uninstall, and can be updated through the Store. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594823853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogas04 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Before you come up and say its fake , i tell you i used MSPaint to depict what I want MS to do , ie listen to what users are asking , an option to use or not to use Metro Start Screen. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594823861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethec Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Disabling Metro : Not gonna happen. That would make no sense at all considering Microsoft's future plans - the only way they'd do it is if they have a WinRT desktop ready, and even then the Start Screen would probably stay. The resources involved in creating the Windows Runtime and the whole Metro UI/UX are too high IMHO to leave room for another huge project, especially with Sinofsky's "if it's not ready, leave it out" philosophy. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594824197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaP Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Couple of other ideas for application sold on Windows 8 store (where MS can enforce some rules like Apple does). No more saved games outside of My saved games folder or the game/service root folder tree itself. No more app settings in My Documents or User root folder. No more DRM softwares installed as hidden device drivers and not showing in add/remove programs (all drivers should be drivers or you are stuck out of Windows 8 store). When i choose to un-install a program everything the program installed should be removed unless some components show in the add/remove program seperately. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594824243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGeorge Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I would take Windows 7, add the new Task Manager, ISO mounting and all new security improvements of current Windows 8 and call it Windows 8. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594824253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganX Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Disabling Metro : Not gonna happen. That would make no sense at all considering Microsoft's future plans - the only way they'd do it is if they have a WinRT desktop ready, and even then the Start Screen would probably stay. The resources involved in creating the Windows Runtime and the whole Metro UI/UX are too high IMHO to leave room for another huge project, especially with Sinofsky's "if it's not ready, leave it out" philosophy. Hey this is just a list thread. Let us dream. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594824349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 I wish the metro file picker is availabe on desktop. Cant think anything more right now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594826143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApuBo Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 minimum screen requirement: 1080p 3D screen. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594826157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pack34 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 I'd like to see the metro essentials apps built out a lot more and for them to be much more comparable (functionality wise) to their desktop equivalents. Also, for the desktop UI, I like the way they are taking it (flatter as in the other thread) however, the opacity of the windows do not match the superbar. They're whiter and more opaque. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594826183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo1911 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Some great suggestions in this thread and they are completely do-able before RTM. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594826245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 1) A resolution independent desktop (read: support for high-DPI displays). 2) Bring Metro to the desktop (checkout this mockup). 3) Cloud support for saved games (no more having to mess around with hidden folders like AppData and ProgramData). 4) Skype integrated by default through the Windows Live login (read: communication revolution). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594828637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganX Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 1) A resolution independent desktop (read: support for high-DPI displays). 2) Bring Metro to the desktop (checkout this mockup). 3) Cloud support for saved games (no more having to mess around with hidden folders like AppData and ProgramData). 4) Skype integrated by default through the Windows Live login (read: communication revolution). #2 Nice Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594828647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraud OS 11 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Stop the user experience torture started with Vista and keep it all consistent and make incremental UI changes, instead of constant overhauls. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594829269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winlonghorn Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Some great suggestions in this thread and they are completely do-able before RTM. Umm....Disabling Metro will not happen before RTM. I guarantee that much! :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594829339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Stop the user experience torture started with Vista and keep it all consistent and make incremental UI changes, instead of constant overhauls. your beloved XP was actually worse than Vista. Dot Matrix 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594829453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethec Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Couple of other ideas for application sold on Windows 8 store (where MS can enforce some rules like Apple does). No more saved games outside of My saved games folder or the game/service root folder tree itself. No more app settings in My Documents or User root folder. No more DRM softwares installed as hidden device drivers and not showing in add/remove programs (all drivers should be drivers or you are stuck out of Windows 8 store). When i choose to un-install a program everything the program installed should be removed unless some components show in the add/remove program seperately. Don't worry, WinRT apps can't do anything like that. In fact, they can't write anything to the disk apart from their own temp and data folders, and can't read anything unless the files are explictly specified by you using a file picker dialog. @MorganX : Well, I think it'd be more interesting if we said realistic stuff... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594829671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourjays Veteran Posted April 29, 2012 Veteran Share Posted April 29, 2012 I'm not even going to bother with it until a few things are changed. 1) Get rid of the desktop as anything other than a "legacy" mode. Yes, I don't like Metro as it is. I also don't think the desktop or the start menu are the future. 2) Have the guts to make all your own apps Metro ONLY Microsoft! If you can't do that then identify and fix the issues in the Metro UI that prevent you from doing so. 3) Add a "productive" UI mode. This "rearranges" the UI to make it more suitable for non-tablet interfaces, similar to the way responsive web design works (single website, but it serves a different style according to the device). If websites can respond to a device, why shouldn't the OS? Would fit perfectly with the "dockable tablet" hardware idea I've seen thrown about. 4) This goes with 2 - add some definition. I get that Metro is supposed to be "chromeless" but I think it has been taken too far. The screenshot of OneNote posted on the frontpage a few days ago looked such a mess and the "tabs" of the ribbon were just floating randomly. The only reason I could identify them as tabs was because of previously using Office 2007. Could easily be solved by a single 1px purple border running underneath all the tabs. The reliance on whitespace is the major problem with Metro IMO. It works fine for low density presentation of information (same as the web), but as soon as you apply it to a complicated program it looks a mess. 5) Consistency. How long until MS decide we need yet another UI, then start adding elements of that to Windows 8 to continue the hodgepodge of UIs that is Windows? Seriously, pick one Microsoft and stick with it for more than two releases... I still think MS are focusing too much on tablets at the expense of their existing strengths. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1072871-if-you-got-to-addchangeetc-anything-in-windows-8-what-would-it-be/#findComment-594833117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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