Horrible tipper leaves horrible note

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shakey

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I tip based off of service provided. If during my meal, you rarely show up, don't fill our drinks, or do anything else that makes our experience that much less enjoyable, you will not get a single penny. But, if the server comes by often to check on how we are, fills our drinks when they are getting low, and well, does their job well, they will get a great tip.

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M_Lyons10

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Why is that a horrible note? I've worked in the customer service industry since I was 17, I will be 29 in August. The truth is, people these days are just flat out lazy, rude, and disrespectful and think that they are OWED a tip, for barely doing their job. My wife and I always leave 5 dollars minimum because we know what it's like, BUT there have been a few occasions where we have tipped the host instead of the server because the server was just plain bad. Never came to table to refill drinks, check on our food ... once incident, the server never came back, someone else delivered our food, my wife never even got hers, had to ask the hostess because we didn't even see our waitress ... where was she you ask, outside smoking ...

I do not think the person that wrote that note was "horrible" at all, if they service was THAT bad then yes, the note and "tip" was justified.

I agree 100%. I realize it's not an easy job, but NONE OF THEM ARE... I always leave 20% tip unless service is really bad. But for that I expect refills, I expect my food to be warm when I get it, I expect it to be fixed quickly if it's wrong, and I do not expect to have to listen to whining about this or that. I don't think that's unreasonable. I went to a restaurant once, ordered our meals, waited, waited, waited, finally asked someone what was going on (Since I didn't see my waitress), and she had gone home... With that said, I am also an avid reviewer on Trip Advisor, and write some VERY nice reviews of places. It takes a lot, but I now will write a bad review if need be.

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Restaurant's shouldn't be involving themselves in their employees tips at all. It is none of their business as far as I'm concerned.

Agreed. Was just offering clarification.

It is why I hate the whole "mandatory tip" mess. I do it only as a compromise with my wife as it doesn't do anyone any good. The restaurants use it as an artificial labor tax and the waiters know its coming so they don't put any effort into earning it.

I didn't say it was an Obligation, it is a reward, especially if you're doing a good job. BUT some people just refuse to tip at all, even when the server IS doing their job well. And like I said before, if you know you're not going to tip at all, stay your ass out of a full service establishment.

That is the nature of it though. It is hard to know when the person just "never tips" or if they just weren't impressed with the service. But that is the nature of rewards they aren't always received when it looks justified.

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Yorak

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Where I live, it is hit or miss. Sometimes you can get a real sweetheart of a waiter/waitress, other times you get somebody that acts like being in the same room with you is sucking out their soul. I was fairly timid in my prior years but these days I just don't care as much. One time I was at a restaurant with my pal (one we ate at quite frequently) and there was a waitress I never saw before that acted like she wanted to murder me. She looked so angry. I told her before I left, "It doesn't hurt to smile, ya know? Give it a shot once, you may like it."

However with that said, I still always try to tip 20%.

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ankit255

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I never said it was a LAW, and I even said if they service was good ... BUT you're not a stupid person, if you go to a full service establishment, you know you're supposed to tip. If you know you're not going to tip, stay your ass at home, cook your own food and clean your own mess.

If it makes you feel worse, I'll tell you this- I don't tip. I don't believe im obliged to unless the service is extremely good. If the restaurant wants me to tip, it has to write it somewhere so I know I can expect to be paying more than the price for the food.

Oh and I'll do whatever I want. You CANNOT tell me or anyone else what to do. You have NO right. You say or believe whatever you want about me or anyone who doesn't tip or doesn't do what you think is right, but it will NOT change A THING. So keep your ****ty opinions in your ass.

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Neu B

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If it makes you feel worse, I'll tell you this- I don't tip. I don't believe im obliged to unless the service is extremely good. If the restaurant wants me to tip, it has to write it somewhere so I know I can expect to be paying more than the price for the food.

Oh and I'll do whatever I want. You CANNOT tell me or anyone else what to do. You have NO right. You say or believe whatever you want about me or anyone who doesn't tip or doesn't do what you think is right, but it will NOT change A THING. So keep your ****ty opinions in your ass.

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I would like to point out, as I have many times before, that the price of eating out in the US is quite cheap compared to what it is in other countries. Really, food + tip is still sometimes cheaper than what one pays for food only in countries where tipping isn't compulsory. You are just giving part of it separately, to the person who is taking care of you (if they are doing it right, anyway). I dare say that anybody in the US who doesn't tip is just a tightwad and kind of spoiled, try going to the UK and paying something like 45 quid for a steak and a beer or two :laugh: If you can't afford to pay for the whole experience, don't go out. It should be part of your budget for the meal.

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ShMaunder

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I would like to point out, as I have many times before, that the price of eating out in the US is quite cheap compared to what it is in other countries. Really, food + tip is still sometimes cheaper than what one pays for food only in countries where tipping isn't compulsory. You are just giving part of it separately, to the person who is taking care of you (if they are doing it right, anyway). I dare say that anybody in the US who doesn't tip is just a tightwad and kind of spoiled, try going to the UK and paying something like 45 quid for a steak and a beer or two :laugh: If you can't afford to pay for the whole experience, don't go out. It should be part of your budget for the meal.

I agree with this.

Service charges should not be confused with tips. I'm not sure how the US define service and tips, but over here service charges are inclusive in the price of the food/drink and is one of the reasons its expensive from the menu. I believe that is the correct way. Tips can be left as a nice gesture, normally indicating good service but certainly shouldn't be expected.

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remixedcat

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Impressive! I should seriously consider doing this since I attract horrible service!

I'm the opposite... often times we have the manager check on us a lot and we often have very prompt and friendly service at all the places we go. I'm always nice to the staff cuz if you're mean they might so some nasty stuff to your food. If you are an ass to them they will do that. If you tip nicely they will be even better the next time.

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shakey

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I would like to point out, as I have many times before, that the price of eating out in the US is quite cheap compared to what it is in other countries. Really, food + tip is still sometimes cheaper than what one pays for food only in countries where tipping isn't compulsory. You are just giving part of it separately, to the person who is taking care of you (if they are doing it right, anyway). I dare say that anybody in the US who doesn't tip is just a tightwad and kind of spoiled, try going to the UK and paying something like 45 quid for a steak and a beer or two :laugh: If you can't afford to pay for the whole experience, don't go out. It should be part of your budget for the meal.

To me it seems to have gone up. Just a dinner with my girl seems to run easily near the $40 to $50. For just a single night of 1 meal, that seems a little high, but I am also frugal :p

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If service is bad, I don't tip, or tip low.

However, if the situation in the restaurant is bad (slow kitchen, understaffed, etc), but the waitress/waiter is doing the best service given the situation, I will tip well.

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shakey

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If service is bad, I don't tip, or tip low.

However, if the situation in the restaurant is bad (slow kitchen, understaffed, etc), but the waitress/waiter is doing the best service given the situation, I will tip well.

This too. Sometimes is isn't the servers fault, but the managers fault for not putting enough employees on the schedule. You can tell when this happens though, because a place will be packed, and there will be only like 4 people running around. When this happens, I tip well, but I then also complain to the manager, about the managers decisions. I let them know how the service was bad, but only because they didn't properly run their establishment. I let them know that I am not pleased with how it is in there, but that the person who is at fault, is the person who is running it.

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i love that msn steals from reddit, this was post two or 3 days ago and of course msn steals it and makes a story and of course hum posts this dumb story.

ah, but he doesn't get the karma for it :)

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srbeen

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I would rather give them a couple pennies and my thoughts as to give them nothing for the horrible service.

In Canada tipping is NOT mandatory BTW, its considered a bonus for exceptional service.... terrible service = terrible tip. Seems this person went 'above and beyond' as thats an EXCELLENT (non-monetary) tip which will likely make the waiter/ess more money in the long run.

I agree there can be 'times' things don't go right - but almost every 'time' at a restaurant they offer something to keep you patriotic to the spot.

Read the source reddit article on this, has really good pointers.

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srbeen

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My uncle used to put a stack of quarters on the table and say, "That could be your tip. Every time

I'm unhappy, I'm taking back a quarter."

This was in the late 70's. An ass move? Maybe. But he got the point across... you're working for

me, not the other way around. In the case of that note, my uncle would have said he's not your

counselor and he's not getting paid to hear your problems; he's paying YOU to do your job.

I know a few people who have done this too.

Actually I think I'm going to do that with some loonies and toonies next time Im getting served..... Its a sure-shot way to get better service, just like when you tip 50 pesos at a resort in DR/Mexico right off the bat.. Its sad that customer service has come to this.

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jnelsoninjax

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It annoys me that restaurants don't pay the Waiters / Waitresses a fair wage because there is an expectation that their tips will cover the rest. A tip is supposed to be a bonus for good service not an extra tax you are obligated to pay regardless of the service.

Agreed. I work for a catering and conference center, and part of the contract is a 15% service charge, that is split between the house and the workers who worked that function. Often times I have made more from service charges then I did in hourly work. :)

I tip based off of service provided. If during my meal, you rarely show up, don't fill our drinks, or do anything else that makes our experience that much less enjoyable, you will not get a single penny. But, if the server comes by often to check on how we are, fills our drinks when they are getting low, and well, does their job well, they will get a great tip.

I try to tip when the service is good. Now about two months ago the wife and I went to Gator's Dockside, and noticed a sign that said something about all you can eat wings. The waitress never once mentioned that to use, and in fact when the wife ordered a plate of wings, she still never said anything to use. The service was horrible, we were seated at a table near the back, and there was a large group next to us who were very drunk, and these were the drunks who get all giggly when they are drunk, the waitress made sure that the large group got all the proper attention but totally neglected our table, we were in the restaurant for almost 2 hours and got a total of 1 refill on the sodas. So it was a very unpleasant experience over all and needless to say we did not leave a tip. Now fast forward to the more recent experience with the same location, but a different waitress. This time the waitress told us about the all you can eat wings, and was very prompt with refills, etc. We had no problem giving her a tip for her service.

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shakey

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Agreed. I work for a catering and conference center, and part of the contract is a 15% service charge, that is split between the house and the workers who worked that function. Often times I have made more from service charges then I did in hourly work. :)

I try to tip when the service is good. Now about two months ago the wife and I went to Gator's Dockside, and noticed a sign that said something about all you can eat wings. The waitress never once mentioned that to use, and in fact when the wife ordered a plate of wings, she still never said anything to use. The service was horrible, we were seated at a table near the back, and there was a large group next to us who were very drunk, and these were the drunks who get all giggly when they are drunk, the waitress made sure that the large group got all the proper attention but totally neglected our table, we were in the restaurant for almost 2 hours and got a total of 1 refill on the sodas. So it was a very unpleasant experience over all and needless to say we did not leave a tip. Now fast forward to the more recent experience with the same location, but a different waitress. This time the waitress told us about the all you can eat wings, and was very prompt with refills, etc. We had no problem giving her a tip for her service.

I've had horrible instances as well. Just about a month or so ago, Me and the girl went to a place to get a bite. It wasn't busy, they had plenty of staff. But the waitress only came to our table twice. Once for the initial order, and once to refil our drinks. We waited about 20 mins after eating for someone to even walk past our table, but nothing. After that time, I just calculated what the meal cost, and left what I thought it should be in cash. I probably underpaid, as I did not factor in tax or the drinks. Since their establishment couldn't even provide service, I felt it was the right thing to do. Maybe that will teach them to focus on their customers instead of whatever they were focusing on.

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