Horrible tipper leaves horrible note

[L1520]

Why is that a horrible note? The truth is, people these days are just flat out lazy, rude, and disrespectful and think that they are OWED a tip, for barely doing their job.

I do not think the person that wrote that note was "horrible" at all, if they service was THAT bad then yes, the note and "tip" was justified.

Agreed 100 percent

[goofyinthehead]

They get tipped/paid what they deserve. If I don't like them., they don't come around enough, don't keep my coffee hot or if I have to track them down then I don't care if they have the biggest smile in the world. I just saved some tip money for myself.

[ankit255]

I would like to point out, as I have many times before, that the price of eating out in the US is quite cheap compared to what it is in other countries. Really, food + tip is still sometimes cheaper than what one pays for food only in countries where tipping isn't compulsory. You are just giving part of it separately, to the person who is taking care of you (if they are doing it right, anyway). I dare say that anybody in the US who doesn't tip is just a tightwad and kind of spoiled, try going to the UK and paying something like 45 quid for a steak and a beer or two :laugh: If you can't afford to pay for the whole experience, don't go out. It should be part of your budget for the meal.

Again, I dont HAVE to tip if I don't want to. The whole concept of tipping is based on its voluntary nature. Food in US is pretty expensive for what we get. A burger and fries for $10 + taxes in the cheap places... Thats a lot compared to other countries. A proper meal with starters and main course with drinks is well above ~$18/person at those cheap places. Thats expensive for college students. I cant imagine tipping above $3 if the bill comes to that. If I had a continuous source of good income, I might. So I dont consider bad tippers spoiled. It's their situation.

[goofyinthehead]

I didn't say it was an Obligation, it is a reward, especially if you're doing a good job. BUT some people just refuse to tip at all, even when the server IS doing their job well. And like I said before, if you know you're not going to tip at all, stay your ass out of a full service establishment.

Why? It isn't law that you must tip unless you know going in that it is an added gratuity. I'm sure everyone who has a job, any job would like to get tips for working.....

[Charisma Veteran]

Again, I dont HAVE to tip if I don't want to. The whole concept of tipping is based on its voluntary nature. Food in US is pretty expensive for what we get. A burger and fries for $10 + taxes in the cheap places... Thats a lot compared to other countries. A proper meal with starters and main course with drinks is well above ~$18/person at those cheap places. Thats expensive for college students. I cant imagine tipping above $3 if the bill comes to that. If I had a continuous source of good income, I might. So I dont consider bad tippers spoiled. It's their situation.

Where the heck are you eating where a burger and fries is $10? That isn't a "cheap" place. Anyway, if you're eating in a sit-down, be-served place and the bill comes to $10, but you can't pay $12 total with a tip in there, you should have just went to Burger King or something. As I said before, it should all be factored in before you even decide to go there. I've been poor, very poor, and when I couldn't afford to do what I should do, I didn't eat out, especially at those kinds of places. Period.

Anybody who doesn't understand this should have to work at that type of job for a while, then they'll get it.

[shakey]

Where the heck are you eating where a burger and fries is $10? That isn't a "cheap" place. Anyway, if you're eating in a sit-down, be-served place and the bill comes to $10, but you can't pay $12 total with a tip in there, you should have just went to Burger King or something. As I said before, it should all be factored in before you even decide to go there. I've been poor, very poor, and when I couldn't afford to do what I should do, I didn't eat out, especially at those kinds of places. Period.

Anybody who doesn't understand this should have to work at that type of job for a while, then they'll get it.

Most burger places here in Texas have just burger themselves that cost $10. Even a large combo at like Jack N Box is around $8.50 depending on what you get. It isn't hard to find a place to eat where you will easily pay $15+ per person for food and drink, that isn't a fast food chain. When I go out to eat with my girl, I usually calculate on spending about $40. But that's just because when we go out to eat, we don't aim for that fast food. We want something hearty and big.

[Original Poster]

im with this person who left the note... cant do your job F off

[Growled Member]

I have never left a note but a few times I sure wanted to. And I do not leave a tip if the service is terrible. If you want a tip, give me good service.

[sweatypickle]

In Canada tipping is NOT mandatory BTW, its considered a bonus for exceptional service.... terrible service = terrible tip. Seems this person went 'above and beyond' as thats an EXCELLENT (non-monetary) tip which will likely make the waiter/ess more money in the long run.

That is completely incorrect. It's expected in Canada just as it is in the States.. There's a reason why there's a server minimum wage compared to a regular minumum wage. Not tipping results in someone making less than minimum wage.

[Boxster17]

I never said it was a LAW, and I even said if they service was good ... BUT you're not a stupid person, if you go to a full service establishment, you know you're supposed to tip. If you know you're not going to tip, stay your ass at home, cook your own food and clean your own mess.

Those sorts of costs are incorporated into the food prices and as was mentioned by others, you shouldn't have to tip when you go out to eat. That being said I rarely ever don't tip (can think of 1 time when I didn't as the service was atrocious). though when I do I'm usually tipping about 15-20%. I think it's ridiculous that you think I should stay at home if I don't want to tip the server when I'm already paying a premium for the food. It's not my fault they chose to work at a restaurant that pays them minimum wage, because they assumed they'll offset the lower wage with their tips.

Charisma, you can't directly compare countries and go on about how cheap it is over here. When our family moved over to Europe, the wages increased as well as the cost of living. It's all relative, so I don't really understand the point you're trying to make by comparing the US to Europe.

[sweatypickle]

The thing is they are paid BELOW minimum wage, in some States 70% lower. The culture in North America is to tip to at least make up the difference. You may dissagree with how NA culture is presented but not tipping is putting people at wages below the minimum.

[Brandon]

The thing is they are paid BELOW minimum wage, in some States 70% lower. The culture in North America is to tip to at least make up the difference. You may dissagree with how NA culture is presented but not tipping is putting people at wages below the minimum.

No, it's not. The business is required to make up for any difference between the wage earned and tips if the total is below minimum wage

[ArialBlue]

I was expecting something along the lines of "I am going to rape you then bury you alive"

[MidnightDevil]

Brilliant.. that's all I have to say :D

[Brian Miller]

I see absolutely nothing wrong with that note. It's fair and honest.

Among the many things I hate about restaurants is the waiters that want to be your friend (while they are serving you) and want nothing to do with you once you have paid.

One of my other annoyances is when the nosy waiter comes over, interrupts your conversation, before you have even tasted your food and asks you, "how is your food?". I don't frakin know, I haven't tasted it yet; if you paid attention to me you would know. Way to kill your tip.

[Rigby]

The thing is they are paid BELOW minimum wage, in some States 70% lower. The culture in North America is to tip to at least make up the difference. You may dissagree with how NA culture is presented but not tipping is putting people at wages below the minimum.

You can't be paid below minimum wage, that would defeat its entire purpose. It's not a recommendation, it's the law.

[Gaffney]

The truth can sometimes hurt, if she is busy with other people she should be talking to her boss to hire more staff, improve other staff that aren't keeping up with the pace or change the shifts.

But you should be complaining to the owner if you think it was under staffed, a member of staff degraded the experience you paid for or most of the other issues. I've never given a tip unless I have change unless it's an exceptional experience eg a friend or someone I knew in the past and I have a conversation with etc.

[HawkMan]

As I've said before, their low pay is not my problem, I pay what's on the bill, that's what I'm supposed to pay. If they have a problem with to low pay, they need to do what everyone else did decades ago, organize and force the employers to change.

The problem is of course that servers don't want to change, they'd rather have lower pay and the possibility of high tips than good pay. In which case they should also expect some won't tip and it's not their job to punish or force customers to tip.

[CrimsonBetrayal]

That is completely incorrect. It's expected in Canada just as it is in the States.. There's a reason why there's a server minimum wage compared to a regular minumum wage. Not tipping results in someone making less than minimum wage.

Total rubbish. Born and raised in Canada mate, I might live in Australia now, but I am a Canadian, tipping is not a normal thing. At least not in B.C. and Alberta. Maybe you come from that french part? If that's the case you're doing what the French Canadians have done for years, assuming the rest of Canada is just as confused as they are. :p

[HighwayGlider]

Well, when you go out to eat in a service restaurant, they are expected, that's why they do those jobs ... and that's what they're there for, to wait on you and your family ... if you don't feel like tipping, go to Burger King or another drive through service. I hate when people come out to eat to a service establishment and don't think they're supposed to tip, especially if the server is doing a good job.

WTF?

lol man, you completely missed the meaning of tips.