Microsoft Drops Aero from Windows 8

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Larry the Lobster

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Comments like this always makes me laugh.

Have you ever tried OS X once in your life ? It has many ****ty things like no real fullscreen, lack of games etc.

Plus you'll lose all your software that have to be bought again/you'll have to find the mac equivalent and so on, so much for not staying with Windows 7/wait for Windows 8 RTM and try it!

I have both Macs and Windows machines. I can do fullscreen apps on my Macs, and not everyone lives to play games on their computers. As well, you can run VMs or multi-boot between Windows and OS X. Frankly, after years of Windows, upon seeing Windows 8, I am moving more toward OS X and away from Windows, even though I have more Windows machines than Mac. I find it more comfortable to use than Win8, and as comfortable as Win7.

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Those who talk about totally switching to a new OS I question how serious some of you are. If one simple UI element is a problem then how is totally changing to a new UI under a different OS better? Besides, since Win7 brought the ability to pin apps to the taskbar how often do you really dig around in your start menu? I hardly open the damn thing anymore, the apps I need are pinned, and some other minor stuff like a game I installed has a desktop shortcut I'd use. When I do use the start menu it's actually just to do a search or click on one of the few apps I have pinned to it as well (apps I'll maybe used a few times a month). To that extent it's the same for me in Win8, winkey and type or winkey and click on what I have pinned, oh man, a few seconds are such a pain!

If all you care about is desktop and use desktop apps then you'll be in the desktop 99% of the time, that hasn't changed in win8 either. Besides there's the power user menu which also cuts down the need for the start screen/start menu as well, winkey+x or a simple right click in the lower left corner. This new menu is way more useful than the right side of the Win7 start menu IMO. Plus once we can edit it and add more things to it then it'll just get better.

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Aero never really worked in Vista. was better in 7. but then again windows 7 was the flashy one. Windows Vista wasn't. ran better too. But yet another nail in the coffin for Windows 8. Not that it's going anywhere. Geeks like me will figure it out but non geeks will have such a steep learning curve.. only way people would buy it is $50 OS. maybe. another $50 maybe for a free hands on course. and a refund if they can't figure it out in a month. But Windows 8 continue's the trend to go backwards on user friendly. which is why XP continues to dominate. Course I have to say such things just so there's a devils advocate out there. Whether I'll buy it or not depends on economics. obviously it would mean the need of a new laptop and don't need one right now

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abecedarian paradoxious

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Aero never really worked in Vista. was better in 7. but then again windows 7 was the flashy one. Windows Vista wasn't. ran better too. But yet another nail in the coffin for Windows 8. Not that it's going anywhere. Geeks like me will figure it out but non geeks will have such a steep learning curve.. only way people would buy it is $50 OS. maybe. another $50 maybe for a free hands on course. and a refund if they can't figure it out in a month. But Windows 8 continue's the trend to go backwards on user friendly. which is why XP continues to dominate. Course I have to say such things just so there's a devils advocate out there. Whether I'll buy it or not depends on economics. obviously it would mean the need of a new laptop and don't need one right now

Aero was fine in Vista, and worked great on an old Athlon XP 2500 I had.

Anyhow, the geeks like me like Win8. The non-geeks around me figured it out in about 30 minutes, without a training video.

And, that you don't know XP is not the dominant version of Windows speaks volumes of what you really know.

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.Neo

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Comments like this always makes me laugh.

Have you ever tried OS X once in your life ? It has many ****ty things like no real fullscreen [?]

Do some research before calling someone out next time.

http://www.apple.com...ull-screen.html

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Ci7

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Aero never really worked in Vista. was better in 7. but then again windows 7 was the flashy one. Windows Vista wasn't. ran better too. But yet another nail in the coffin for Windows 8. Not that it's going anywhere. Geeks like me will figure it out but non geeks will have such a steep learning curve.. only way people would buy it is $50 OS. maybe. another $50 maybe for a free hands on course. and a refund if they can't figure it out in a month. But Windows 8 continue's the trend to go backwards on user friendly. which is why XP continues to dominate. Course I have to say such things just so there's a devils advocate out there. Whether I'll buy it or not depends on economics. obviously it would mean the need of a new laptop and don't need one right now

Windows 7 is the number 1# OS atm

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Aero never really worked in Vista. was better in 7. but then again windows 7 was the flashy one. Windows Vista wasn't. ran better too. But yet another nail in the coffin for Windows 8. Not that it's going anywhere. Geeks like me will figure it out but non geeks will have such a steep learning curve.. only way people would buy it is $50 OS. maybe. another $50 maybe for a free hands on course. and a refund if they can't figure it out in a month. But Windows 8 continue's the trend to go backwards on user friendly. which is why XP continues to dominate. Course I have to say such things just so there's a devils advocate out there. Whether I'll buy it or not depends on economics. obviously it would mean the need of a new laptop and don't need one right now

The irony is that geeks have a harder time adapting to new and simpler concepts than non geeks, and they can't see it. And most of it is because of pure stubbornness. You refuse to like it or see it as simpler so you take longer to adapt, because you have chosen not to.

The average user will just pick it up and click on what seems logical, not ask questions why it is so or why it is like that.

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The irony is that geeks have a harder time adapting to new and simpler concepts than non geeks, and they can't see it. And most of it is because of pure stubbornness. You refuse to like it or see it as simpler so you take longer to adapt, because you have chosen not to.

The average user will just pick it up and click on what seems logical, not ask questions why it is so or why it is like that.

You are also ridiculous.

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The irony is that geeks have a harder time adapting to new and simpler concepts than non geeks, and they can't see it. And most of it is because of pure stubbornness. You refuse to like it or see it as simpler so you take longer to adapt, because you have chosen not to.

The average user will just pick it up and click on what seems logical, not ask questions why it is so or why it is like that.

That's because "geeks", still feel the need for an ego, and are trying to keep the "I know how to use a computer, and you don't" mentaility going that has persisted since the 90s. I see it everyday at school. They still feel the need to be on top.

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HawkMan

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Have you ever been involved in training?

Yes, have you? It's like with vista al the geeks wine ape**** over haing to click and extra time to get to network settings, meanwhile advanced regular users went "oh this actually makes sense now, I can do this without help now" and for the idiot regular users, it made supporting them a million times easier.

Yes vista and thus 7 changed a lot to require more clicks for the advanced users, but made it easier for regular users and to support them.

Same thing with win8, just on a much bigger scale. They'll see the metro screen and especially with the introduction "tutorial", they'll just get it. After all it's what they always want, big icons telling them exactly what they do.

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George P Global Moderator

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Have you ever been involved in training?

The desktop is still more or less the same, you don't have to learn anything new on that end, so the majority of people will use it like they used Win7. The start screen isn't at all complex, just tell them about the hot corners and what they do and the difference between metro and classic desktop apps and done. How is this really that hard? And besides that, have the millions out there who own a iPad run out and gotten training on using the UI? What about when they buy a smartphone for the first time with all the different UIs out there? I really doubt it, why should the PC be any different? Win8 will have a tutorial and or a getting started guide, people will just read it like they do for all the other devices they buy and have to learn, and in the end they'll learn it without issue.

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The average user will just pick it up and click on what seems logical, not ask questions why it is so or why it is like that.

I agree with this. Literally, all of the older generation and people who aren't really technophobes who I've shown Windows 8 too - as soon I've showed it too them and told them that's the new Windows, they've literally said "okay" and got on with it. They don't care and they've not questioned it, and they've all seemed fine. As long as their stuff works, boom. :p

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bandit_liberty_rumble

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I actually believe that MS is going in the right direction here, albeit possibly a little too enthusiastically (with regard to the almost complete removal of shadows for example ) . At least the glass effect and transparency as part of the window chrome was never a good idea in my mind.

They should make Julie Larson Green in charge of PowerShell. Then PowerShell will become simplified, fast and fluid, beautiful, re-imagined, no compromise, harmonious, immersive and Metro style. :p Any buzzwords I forgot?

Pretty sure you're missing an 'experience' somewhere in there...

LOL at the Fisher Price comments, welcome to 2002, XP called and it wants it's insult back.

Sadly, looking at the Metro start screen, the insult still applies a decade later. :/

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How about one of these?

http://www.bing.com/...+PC&FORM=HDRSC2

That looks seriously uncomfortable in the one picture...: :o

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In the words of Steven Sinofsky:

I'm never going to sit here and hold my arm straight out
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