Rickkins Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 Ok, I noticed something. By adding the exe to startup, I seemed to lose my "show desktop" functions. Removing it, and manually clicking it returned the function. I have repeated the process several times now, and it happens each time. Loading the exe via the startup folder breaks the "show desktop" function. Running the exe outside of the startup folder, does not. Funny. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594942809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpotato Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 How do you access things like shutdown, wifi, user settings etc. without Metro? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594942829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detection Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 How do you access things like shutdown, wifi, user settings etc. without Metro? How do you access them in 7 without the start menu ? Same way. I just made a toolbar on the taskbar for explorer and added the right click shutdown and restart menu Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594942853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickkins Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 How do you access things like shutdown, wifi, user settings etc. without Metro? Uh, the same way you always did. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594943003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpotato Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Uh, the same way you always did. I don't understand. The wi-fi menu in windows 8 uses Metro, I thought they removed the legacy code. How do you access this without metro? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594943109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detection Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I don't understand. The wi-fi menu in windows 8 uses Metro, I thought they removed the legacy code. How do you access this without metro? There is more than 1 way to skin a cat Network and Sharing Center Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594943115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Veteran Posted June 19, 2012 Veteran Share Posted June 19, 2012 Actually, I'd like to loose "all things metro" and be done with it. I want the new file system, I want the new underlying OS. Just drop the asstastic UI changes. Try Linux? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594943451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted June 19, 2012 Veteran Share Posted June 19, 2012 This thread is terrifying. Deleting Windows.UI.Immersive will break, among a million other things, all system dialogs / context menus / tooltips... I don't even understand how you could get the shell to start after doing this. And the other ones... my god, if you knew the things that lived in these binaries you wouldn't even think to touch them. Calum, giantpotato, Ice_Blue and 7 others 10 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594943473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 If you guys are so inclined to destroy your systems, why not just stick with Windows 7? I can only see some of you going to friends/relatives machines doing this, and bricking their machines. You have no clue what are in those binaries, and what deleting them causes the system underneath. Ice_Blue, argonite and ahhell 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594943509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonite Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I got it! Deleting the Windows and System32 folder will disable Metro permanently. Ice_Blue, Emon, abysal and 3 others 6 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594943543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order_66 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 If you guys are so inclined to destroy your systems, why not just stick with Windows 7? I can only see some of you going to friends/relatives machines doing this, and bricking their machines. You have no clue what are in those binaries, and what deleting them causes the system underneath. Hard to imagine "8" being any more broke than it already is, I say let them hack away, as long as it's not harming you or anyone else then let them go. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594943547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 bricking their machines. uhm.. it won't be "Bricked" the only way to actually brick a computer is to corrupt the bios (power off during bios flash). Worst case scenerio, you put recovery disk in, run an sfc check replace the files and you are back in business. If windows bricked your computer due to a file being deleted.. they would have a lot more issues on their hands. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594943591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Is it really better to implement something that breaks several features of an OS rather than learning a handful of new keyboard shortcuts? People are so daft sometimes. Change! No! I must hinder myself rather than adapt! SharpGreen 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594943751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrp04 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Yeah because people like you make this clunky hacks, post them online, and tell people to use them because you HATE the new full-screen start menu so much. Then people go around ****ing their computers up when it is easier to just spend 10 minutes learning how the new OS works. I don't care for Metro on my desktop. I use it as a full-screen start menu and widget screen. That's all. I only use desktop programs, and it works totally fine. The new things like the new Task Manager and the power user menu (Win+X) are just awesome. I'm constantly pressing Win+X on Windows 7 machines to quickly realize that it isn't available. Brandon H and SharpGreen 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594944067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Veteran Posted June 19, 2012 Veteran Share Posted June 19, 2012 [Thread cleaned] Let's cut out the trolling, personal attacks and off-topic posts before warnings ensue, yes? dr_crabman 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594944101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaiKee Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 This thread is terrifying. Deleting Windows.UI.Immersive will break, among a million other things, all system dialogs / context menus / tooltips... I don't even understand how you could get the shell to start after doing this. And the other ones... my god, if you knew the things that lived in these binaries you wouldn't even think to touch them. Why not? I think that's why there are pre-release previews in the first place, if MS engineers were always correct, there is simply no need for a preview(beta or whatever).I wouldn't touch my win7's SF's because it is my main OS, but I thought I still have the luxury of doing anything with win8 preview's, in the worst scenario I just need another 15 minutes to re-install. And....the MS engineers had decided in Vista/Win7 that RTM numbers should be multiple of 16, but if win8RTM would be 8600 as rumored, then they over-rode their own "correct decisions". Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594944207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickkins Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 Again, I never advocated deleting any binaries, so perhaps you should your facts straight. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594944349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Again, I never advocated deleting any binaries, so perhaps you should your facts straight. Not you, personally, but this thread is: I just removed these files from C:\Windows\System32 in Windows 8 and it has permanently killed Metro, Boots to Desktop too Not without some side effects though, No desktop Icons / Taskbar shortcuts although they all still work if you can remember which are which Going to try adding different files back and see if I can't get the normal desktop back without Metro EDIT - Replacing Windows.UI.dll has brought the Desktop Icons back after hitting F5 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594944377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Veteran Posted June 20, 2012 Veteran Share Posted June 20, 2012 [Thread cleaned] Again. Forum moderation is not something up for public discussion. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594944463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis W. Veteran Posted June 20, 2012 Veteran Share Posted June 20, 2012 Alright guys, this is getting out of hand on both sides. My own view is that if people want to be adventurous and see what happens when they tweak the OS, more power to them. If they want to share their findings, great. Encouraging others to do so, that is something else. However this thread has degenerated into another debate and we've seen enough of that already. Going to close this for now for some cool off time. edit: Please continue discussion. Don't engage in another debate here; there are many other threads for that. FaiKee and johnporter29 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594944521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraud OS 11 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 This thread is terrifying. And the other ones... my god, if you knew the things that lived in these binaries you wouldn't even think to touch them. Metro *is* malware for most of them who like their productivity. :p So this tool is the perfect Metro kill-switch. Kills all visible traces of the Start screen or its apps. :p Order_66 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594947601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Metro *is* malware for most of them who like their productivity. :p So this tool is the perfect Metro kill-switch. Kills all visible traces of the Start screen or its apps. :p And does a hell of a number on the OS as a whole, too. Can't wait for things to explode in their faces. :p Order_66 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594947665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 And does a hell of a number on the OS as a whole, too. Can't wait for things to explode in their faces. :p I'd rather have a semi broken Windows 8 without the metro start, than a fully broken on with metro. Arceles, HoochieMamma and Order_66 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594947681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaiKee Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Metro *is* malware for most of them who like their productivity. :p So this tool is the perfect Metro kill-switch. Kills all visible traces of the Start screen or its apps. :p I saw some guys telling people not to touch the binaries, well, it's people like xpclient, pandaX, vizion etc, who had been working on the window's binaries and gave us good work-around features. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594948193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Radunovic Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Thanks for heads up. I will try to open described libraries and see if i can tackle code and recompiled it back. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085115-wanna-get-rid-of-the-charms-bar-heres-how/page/2/#findComment-594949759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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