84Mark Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Okay first things first - my Tier 2 subscription just expired so I appreciate that most people have probably been living with this for some time now or that there may have been discussions on this already but.... the ads at the top of the pages are taking up almost 1/3rd of the page (see pic)... surely too much? I'm also seeing ads for MatureDatingUK, not very appropriate IMO. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miuku. Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I wish I was getting ads like that, all I get is Lumia 900 ads :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594942333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted June 19, 2012 Administrators Share Posted June 19, 2012 You won't see those when logged in. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594942335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneNutter MVC Posted June 19, 2012 MVC Share Posted June 19, 2012 Is that not a little extreme though? even if it is for guests. DrakeN2k, mbowman, Elliot B. and 3 others 6 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594942381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cork1958 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 You won't see those when logged in. How did OP post, if they weren't logged in? I'm unable to post anything without logging in. Nary an ad here! ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594942389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted June 19, 2012 Veteran Share Posted June 19, 2012 I get very large intel ad's like that... sometimes they get annoying... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594942427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee G. Veteran Posted June 19, 2012 Veteran Share Posted June 19, 2012 How did OP post, if they weren't logged in? I'm unable to post anything without logging in. Jedimark logged in after taking the screenshot? ;) The screenshot shows that he isn't logged in. ahhell 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594942435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerd Rage Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Like Nutter mentioned, that seems very over the top. That must be very off-putting for visitors (guests). Tech Star, Ambroos, DrakeN2k and 5 others 8 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594942439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jamesyfx Subscriber² Posted June 19, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted June 19, 2012 To be honest this looks more like a faulty ad then an intentionally obtrusive advert. There's clearly some style information missing. -Alex- 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594942443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+primortal Subscriber² Posted June 19, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted June 19, 2012 Sorta makes the site seem "cheap" looking with that monstrosity at the top page. If I was a first time visitor and seeing that block at the top I'd run away and never come back. d4v1d05, Glassed Silver and xtrabit racing 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594942445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger H. Veteran Posted June 19, 2012 Veteran Share Posted June 19, 2012 As was said it only shows up for guests. I've seen these large ones on other sites too though, not just Neowin. That's why i say nobody should ever get a 1366 x 768 or netbook resolutions (1064 x 600) or something,those things must suck! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594942545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
84Mark Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 You won't see those when logged in. Ah okay, thanks. Still - I don't think they're very conducive towards attracting new visitors. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594942553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Veteran Posted June 19, 2012 Veteran Share Posted June 19, 2012 You won't see those when logged in. It still needs fixing, the colouring is terrible, the click-though rate will be 0 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594943851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassed Silver Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 As was said it only shows up for guests. I've seen these large ones on other sites too though, not just Neowin. That's why i say nobody should ever get a 1366 x 768 or netbook resolutions (1064 x 600) or something,those things must suck! Doesn't matter. It looks outright horrible and a site header should NEVER EVER get scooted down that much by other (big) parts of the site. I'll be honest: if it wasn't for me being a member already, I wouldn't bother coming back after hitting this site for the first time... To be honest, the news particularly don't really draw me here either, it's mainly the forums and the news coverage that I don't get from my Apple news sites (so general tech news is covered by Neowin :)). Glassed Silver:mac Tech Star 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594943863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReaperMan Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I agree when not logged in they just look wrong. If I was a new visitor to the site it would be off putting to see a ad take over 1/3 of the screen. Its not just that ad I have seen some other ones over the past couple of months that do the same. Somthing like that must not get many click thru's as its just wrong. Also we want people not to block ad's on the site but showing ad's like that one just add's to why people use ad blocking plugins in the first place. Glassed Silver 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594943873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneNutter MVC Posted June 19, 2012 MVC Share Posted June 19, 2012 Just for kicks, as i was on my Netbook... If i was a new first time visitor i wouldn't be keen on making a return visit. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594943877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwind Hawk Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Wow, if Neowin needs more money you should make a donation page and push it more/again. This just ruins any class the site has... :blink: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594943879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Elі Subscriber² Posted June 19, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted June 19, 2012 Sorta makes the site seem "cheap" looking with that monstrosity at the top page. If I was a first time visitor and seeing that block at the top I'd run away and never come back. I strongly agree, I believe those adds are just too much lol, I thought the same thing the first time I noticed them, If I'm a new visitor and see that, I probably stay away from the site, makes it look like one of those maleware sites. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594943893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Johnny Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Whilst we're on the subject of ad's - they break Neogamr when using expanded width Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594943915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Teej Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I'm usually for any change this sites makes, but that ad is abhorrent, even if it is for guests only. There absolutely must be a better way to supply ads for guests! Using the picture InsaneNutter uses, why not place an ad between the "Neogamr" and "Login" buttons, and perhaps an ad tile instead of one of the news tiles? This, so far, is the equivalent of walking into a shop that's hard to get to the entrance. Considering tablets + 1366x768 Laptops/Ultrabooks/Netbooks are very quickly becoming the standard, having it take up so much space they literally can't see any of the latest news without having to scroll down, it leaves an instantly negative taste in the user's mouth. To take a line from retail merchandising, "The eye line is the buy line". Now, quite obviously this isn't a retail store (this is a news website), but the philosophy still stands. A guest should be greeted instantly with eye-catching news tiles and headlines, as well as eye-catching ads, both of which entice a click. The way this works right now, this massive ad does not entice any sort of hover over, never mind a mouse click, and in some people's cases there aren't even any instantly available to news stories to click, enticing or otherwise! I absolutely love the work the Neowin team puts in and so far have always said that such work deserves an applause, but on this exception I think this needs to be reviewed by the dev team - I hope the Neowin team agrees :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594943923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted June 20, 2012 Administrators Share Posted June 20, 2012 Hey guys I would love to hear your feedback on how we can improve the experience at Neowin but the fact is we offset the bigger ads to guests because there are always 1000's more of them on Neowin all the time. Max member count at any one time never reaches past 300. So instead of bitching about the ads you don't see when you're logged in, how about some suggestions to turn those guests into members? I don't really understand why our member to guest ratio is so extreme myself? Remember we pay developers, newsposters, our own hosting, two full time staff from that income, and our advertisers are pretty much requiring these types.. and lastly guests won't always see the big ad, as it should only display once or twice in a 24 hour timeframe. I never see them in Europe when I check the site logged out as well. I appreciate meaningful feedback. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594944689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashy Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 First idea, make smaller ads? If I was a guest to a site that had huge ads like that, I wouldn't join. Guests aren't to know if they will be bombarded by more massive annoying ads when they login. I'm not bitching either, because it's your site, so you can run it however you like. Are they actual guests? On a forum I run, I see a huge amount of bots. Be that spiders or spammers. Glassed Silver 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594944725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashy Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 chrome + adblock = Happy I'm pretty sure this is against the rules. But seriously, if you use and enjoy a site, and don't pay a feww to remove them, don't you feel it's right to give them the opportunity to show ads to make some money back to provide your free website? Neowin doesn't exactly intrude with their ads. Unless you're a guest. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594944733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
articuno1au Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 First idea, make smaller ads? If I was a guest to a site that had huge ads like that, I wouldn't join. Guests aren't to know if they will be bombarded by more massive annoying ads when they login. I'm not bitching either, because it's your site, so you can run it however you like. Are they actual guests? On a forum I run, I see a huge amount of bots. Be that spiders or spammers. This. The ads I get on my tablet when I switch browsers make me want to kill people :\ It does really take away from Neowin. The other thing I would do is run an article explaining the benefits of registering or subscribing. I'd have registered just for the "Thread formerly known as" thread. I'm pretty sure this is against the rules. But seriously, if you use and enjoy a site, and don't pay a feww to remove them, don't you feel it's right to give them the opportunity to show ads to make some money back to provide your free website? Neowin doesn't exactly intrude with their ads. Unless you're a guest. Actually doing so isn't, but talking about it is. I have Neowin on my whitelist for background loading. I never see the adds, but my browser loads them and Neowin should get the "impressions" benefits from me >.< I've been thinking of writing an auto-clicker to use for the site, but I don't want to get Neowin in trouble :\ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594944737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum Veteran Posted June 20, 2012 Veteran Share Posted June 20, 2012 Thread cleaned. Please don't mention ways our advertisements can be hidden. It is against our Community Rules. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085217-ads-taking-up-13rd-of-the-screen/#findComment-594944755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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