Recommended Posts

I've been using Windows 8 for a couple of weeks now and I've pretty much adjusted to it. For me, It's a step backwards due to the removal/changes to Previous Versions and Disk Imaging. Previous Versions is now called FIle History and now requires a separate drive and is no longer accessible via right-click. They appear to have removed the ability to image you drive and dumbed it down to a more feature complete version of System Restore. I'm all adding features, but both of these changes were for the worse and diminish the value of the package. Although I'm adjusted, Metro is still crap in my book.

If they plan on speeding up the release schedule for Windows to the point of seeing new versions every year, then they better also think about reducing the price significantly. As it stands, Windows 8 is worth less too me than 7 for messing with the two above features alone, nevermind forcing me to use Metro. That being said, I have to update to stay familiar because its part of my job.

Well, lets be fair here, what good is a feature like File History if it just stores copies of files on the same drive? Sure at first it sounds fine but if the drive itself goes poof what good is it? Also if you don't want to use an external you can use a network share as well, which might make more sense. One thing I just read, when looking into this, it does keep a small cache on your main drive though, for when the external or network share isn't online. It seems the default cache is 5% but you can change it.

I'll give you the right click bit, that's a shame but it seems that once you're in the folder of the files you want to get back you can just hit the History icon on the ribbon instead of digging through the file history interface window from the top.

Canouna is a joke, he changes his story with every leak on info, didn't he first state that 8500 was the RTM ?

Not just that but I have seen so many times he backtracks things he was so sure about just days before

He did not contradict the fact that 8500 was RTM, do you think Microsoft just stops developing Windows when it RTM's, gives everyone a high-five and send them home for a few months? No. They continue to work.

Whether or not 8500 IS RTM or not we will not know for a bit. :p

He did not contradict the fact that 8500 was RTM, do you think Microsoft just stops developing Windows when it RTM's, gives everyone a high-five and send them home for a few months? No. They continue to work.

Whether or not 8500 IS RTM or not we will not know for a bit. :p

I know that lol

I don't want to get into a discussion about Mr C, it never ends well when I do :p

Canouna is a joke, he changes his story with every leak on info, didn't he first state that 8500 was the RTM ?

Not just that but I have seen so many times he backtracks things he was so sure about just days before

People still believe/follow Canouna ? He is so full of crap :/

Well, lets be fair here, what good is a feature like File History if it just stores copies of files on the same drive? Sure at first it sounds fine but if the drive itself goes poof what good is it? Also if you don't want to use an external you can use a network share as well, which might make more sense. One thing I just read, when looking into this, it does keep a small cache on your main drive though, for when the external or network share isn't online. It seems the default cache is 5% but you can change it.

I'll give you the right click bit, that's a shame but it seems that once you're in the folder of the files you want to get back you can just hit the History icon on the ribbon instead of digging through the file history interface window from the top.

I would never condone relying on backups stored on the same drive. For me, Previous Versions was a nice safety net that could be accessed quickly in the event that I or someone else did something stupid. It was much quicker to right-click -> browse -> restore than firing up the external USB drive and coping back over. They should've expanded the feature with what they've done in Windows 8 along with giving the user the choice of how it behaved. File History is only going to be noticed by the power user, like you and I, just like Previous Versions. If Microsoft removed the feature because it wasn't being utilized, then the same problem exists here and they should advertise the feature to make people aware. Most people I've helped didn't even know the feature existed in 7.

Except Windows isn't facing OS X alone. Within the tablet space it's also directly competing with iOS which does see annual free updates and is currently market leader. Holding on to a three-year cycle could mean Microsoft is unable to respond quickly enough to new developments. Something we've seen happening the last few years.

Rapid update those those OSs mean nothing. Look at Android fragmentation, for example. Next to no one is on ICS. A 3 year development cycle is a good timeframe to keep. Especially for the business world.

when can we (probably) see the images on msdnn ?

Probably about 2 weeks after RTM announcement. That's how it's been in the past.

Of course, they might try to get Windows 8 on MSDN quicker than usual so developers can get the biggest head start possible to get apps up and running for retail release.

I would never condone relying on backups stored on the same drive. For me, Previous Versions was a nice safety net that could be accessed quickly in the event that I or someone else did something stupid. It was much quicker to right-click -> browse -> restore than firing up the external USB drive and coping back over. They should've expanded the feature with what they've done in Windows 8 along with giving the user the choice of how it behaved. File History is only going to be noticed by the power user, like you and I, just like Previous Versions. If Microsoft removed the feature because it wasn't being utilized, then the same problem exists here and they should advertise the feature to make people aware. Most people I've helped didn't even know the feature existed in 7.

Yep. Previous Versions saved my from disaster on a couple of occasions.

Now you need 2 hdd to have it :/

To get started with it you do, but as I pointed out there's still the "offline cache" option which stores a part of the files on your C drive. The default setting for this is 5% of your total C, you can set it higher and it'll store more on C for when you can't access that external hdd or that network share you had set.

How do you access to that cache in Windows 8?

It's just there, I dunno where Windows 8 actually stores the cache files but setup File History, say to an external, then at some point don't attach the external and try to use file history anyways. The OS should fallback to the offline cache and still work. Check the advanced settings for File History, there you can set how much of your C drive the offline mode will use, default is 5%. Technically since it uses your system drive if that 5% default space is bigger than the external space being used then everything should show up in both places I'd wager.

Looks like a bad windows 7 theme for linux :p

PS : The build is 8432 , built on 12 june , apparently.

Doesn't look that bad. I like it. Simple and clean. I see there are some aero parts that need to be updated. And the icons... at this point I am doubting MS will even update those. So much for Windows reimagined, except the glossy Vista-era icons...

"Your name is Word, Why are you a window/door?" :p

ref: http://windowsteambl...ndows-logo.aspx

Looks like a bad windows 7 theme for linux :p

PS : The build is 8432 , built on 12 june , apparently.

won't that be June 11th actually? (120611) unless it's an year old screenshot!

by the sounds of things im in the minority but i dont mind the new office icons

I like them too :)

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • As I've been usually saying lately - we all can thank "AI" for this.
    • Friday Windows 11 preview builds are here. Insiders in the Experimental (formerly Dev) and Beta Channel can download builds 26300.8697 and 26220.8690. My Windows11 device on the Preview Channel just got 26220.8728. My guess is this build is a nightly update from 26220.8690.
    • Traffic has a surprisingly unexpected impact on your surroundings by Sayan Sen Image by Radik 2707 via Pexels A collaborative study by researchers from several Israeli institutions found that everyday pollution from traffic and industrial activity measurably changed the atmospheric electric field over the Tel Aviv metropolitan area, providing new evidence of how human activity can influence the lower atmosphere. The research was led by Dr. Roy Yaniv of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and the Gertner Institute at Sheba Medical Center, Dr. Assaf Hochman of the Fredy & Nadine Herrmann Institute of Earth Sciences at the Hebrew University, and Prof. Yoav Yair of Reichman University. The study also involved Itay Froomer, a student from Hadera High School and the Israeli Museum of Medicine and Science (Technoda), who carried out the work as part of the Ministry of Education's 5-unit physics research track. The researchers focused on the atmospheric electric field under fair-weather conditions. Even in the absence of storms, a weak electric field naturally exists between Earth's surface and the atmosphere. One of the main ways scientists measure this field is through the Potential Gradient (PG), which is the inverse of the vertical component of the electric field. PG is a key part of the global electric circuit, a planet-wide system of electrical currents maintained by thunderstorms and electrified clouds around the world. Scientists have long known that the atmospheric electric field can be influenced by factors ranging from large-scale atmospheric processes to local weather conditions such as dust, fog and clouds. Human-made pollution is also known to play a role, but understanding exactly how urban emissions affect the electric field close to the ground has remained an area of ongoing research. To investigate this relationship, the team analyzed measurements from a newly installed electric field mill, an instrument used to continuously monitor the strength of the atmospheric electric field. The instrument was installed at the Center for Technological Education (Roter House) in Holon and became operational in August 2024. It was funded by Israel's Ministry of Education and the Holon municipality. The electric field mill forms part of a broader monitoring network that includes nearby meteorological stations and air-quality monitoring sites. This allowed researchers to compare electric field measurements with detailed weather data and pollution records to better understand what was driving changes in the Potential Gradient. The study focused on two major urban pollutants: fine particulate matter (PM2.5) and nitrogen oxides (NOx), both commonly produced by vehicle traffic and industrial activity. PM2.5 refers to microscopic airborne particles small enough to remain suspended in the atmosphere for extended periods, while NOx is a group of gases released during fuel combustion. Researchers examined daily, weekly and seasonal patterns in the atmospheric electric field and compared them with changes in pollutant concentrations. Their analysis revealed a clear relationship between NOx levels and changes in the Potential Gradient, particularly during morning and evening rush hours when traffic emissions were at their highest. “What we observe is a direct physical link between emission peaks and electrical variability,” explained Dr. Roy Yaniv. “NOx reduces atmospheric conductivity very quickly, so the electric field responds almost instantaneously during traffic rush hours.” Atmospheric conductivity describes how easily electrical charges move through the air. According to the researchers, nitrogen oxides rapidly alter this conductivity, causing a near-immediate response in the electric field. PM2.5, however, was associated with a delayed response. The researchers attributed this difference to the particles' longer atmospheric residence time, meaning they remain in the atmosphere for longer periods, as well as their different microphysical interactions with surrounding air and atmospheric components. The study also identified a pronounced "weekend effect." In Israel, traffic volumes and some industrial activity decline significantly on Fridays and Saturdays. During these periods, concentrations of both NOx and PM2.5 dropped, and corresponding changes were observed in the atmospheric electric field. “The weekend signal demonstrates just how sensitive the electric field is to changes in human activity,” the researchers noted. “When emissions decline, the electrical environment adjusts at once, providing a high-resolution indicator of urban atmospheric conditions.” The findings showed that pollution levels can influence not only the chemical composition of the atmosphere but also its electrical properties. Researchers said the results strengthened the case for using atmospheric electricity as an additional tool for environmental monitoring, particularly in densely populated urban areas where anthropogenic, or human-caused, influences are most pronounced. The study also pointed to potential public health applications. By combining air-quality measurements with observations of atmospheric electricity, researchers said they could gain a more complete picture of how urban atmospheric conditions change over time. “Integrating air-quality data with electric-field measurements gives us a clearer picture of how the lower atmosphere evolves moment by moment,” the researchers added. “It’s a framework that can support both scientific insight and practical environmental decision-making.” Beyond the scientific findings, the project highlighted a collaboration between universities, public institutions and secondary education. Researchers said the work demonstrated how students could take part in real-world environmental research while contributing to studies of air quality, atmospheric processes and their potential effects on society. Source: Hebrew University, ScienceDirect This article was generated with some help from AI and reviewed by an editor. Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, this material is used for the purpose of news reporting. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing
    • We aren't even at the all-star game and Microsoft is talking about an update that will most likely be released during the World Series if not after. A lot can happen in the world between now and the 2026 World Series, including the 2026 FIFA Cup. Tell me about it again after the FIFA Cup is concluded. That should allow plenty of time to prepare for it.
    • Great, tell me when I have a "Bad Pool Caller" elsewhere not in Windoze.
  • Recent Achievements

    • Week One Done
      AMV earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Month Later
      AMV earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Collaborator
      ryansurfer98 went up a rank
      Collaborator
    • One Month Later
      Eurosoft10 earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      Eurosoft10 earned a badge
      Week One Done
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      541
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      186
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      79
    4. 4
      Michael Scrip
      77
    5. 5
      Steven P.
      71
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!