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does feel good in Linux, specially Wayland oriented Distro's 

off topic but i haven't messed with any linux distros in awhile. how many and which ones have switched over to wayland? good to see wayland finally coming into use

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off topic but i haven't messed with any linux distros in awhile. how many and which ones have switched over to wayland? good to see wayland finally coming into use

i dunno the exact amount of Distro's using it or will be but Fedora have packaged it for  years.  but the only Distro not using it at all an that's Ubuntu . . 

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Pretty stupid thing to do but well, Google Chrome again changed its New Tab Page with stupid Instant based although it was previously possible to disable it using flags but it seems they default enabled it.

 

Also to use direct write in Chrome:

1. Go to about:flags and search for LCD Text Anti-Aliasing and enable it.

2. then open Chrome shortcut present on your desktop and in Target add --direct-write in the end.

 

 

--direct-write

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Smooth scrolling in Chrome is gradually improving and its already better than Firefox for me, although IE11 is on par with every browser in scrolling right now.

 

Now bad news for users...

Chrome 33 will contain new tab page with big Google search bar and logo in it. Instant API one and you can't disable it.

KRo8c1P.png

 

Next thing is bug currently in Chromium, it send mouse events without any reason... Result is that if you open Facebook Image Viewer, its hover action activation state start flickering even if you move your mouse and some button and clicks does not get register like on Logitech support, you can't select stuff in OS 32-bit etc. Also Gmail tabs does not getting switch on clicks... Although its bleeding edge and this can happen, so don't worry. Just reminding beforehand though....

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Smooth scrolling in Chrome is gradually improving and its already better than Firefox for me, although IE11 is on par with every browser in scrolling right now.

 

Now bad news for users...

Chrome 33 will contain new tab page with big Google search bar and logo in it. Instant API one and you can't disable it.

KRo8c1P.png

 

Next thing is bug currently in Chromium, it send mouse events without any reason... Result is that if you open Facebook Image Viewer, its hover action activation state start flickering even if you move your mouse and some button and clicks does not get register like on Logitech support, you can't select stuff in OS 32-bit etc. Also Gmail tabs does not getting switch on clicks... Although its bleeding edge and this can happen, so don't worry. Just reminding beforehand though....

Its not as good as firefox's yet sadly :(

 

The new middle click smooth scroll is perfect, even smoother than firefox's and works on all pages. But smooth-scrolling using the mouse wheel is still b0rked. With threaded compositing enabled it doesn't smooth scroll at all with the mouse wheel on most web pages (regresses to scrolling in 'steps'), with threaded compositing disabled it does on most pages (but still not all), and with threaded compositing disabled there's a super annoying bug where pages will randomly turn white until you resize the chrome window.

 

Firefox's smooth scrolling works consistently on every page and without weird bugs like that, so I won't consider chrome's as good until it reaches this parity. But at least they are finally making progress on smooth scroll [on windows], its taken wayyy too long.

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Its not as good as firefox's yet sadly :(

 

The new middle click smooth scroll is perfect, even smoother than firefox's and works on all pages. But smooth-scrolling using the mouse wheel is still b0rked. With threaded compositing enabled it doesn't smooth scroll at all with the mouse wheel on most web pages, with threaded compositing disabled it does on most pages (but still not all), and with threaded compositing disabled there's a super annoying bug where pages will randomly turn white until you resize the chrome window.

 

Firefox's smooth scrolling works consistently on every page and without weird bugs like that, so I won't consider chrome's as good until it reaches this parity. But at least they are finally making progress on smooth scroll [on windows], its taken wayyy too long.

 

 

I don't know why I am having different smooth scrolling behavior with Firefox then you because for me Firefox smooth scrolling is jerky and not smooth at all with middle button as well (could Logitech driver might be messing up). Although I am on Nightly, hopeful tomorrow's Nightly will add off the main thread compositing which will relax main thread little bit so scrolling might improve little.

Overall Chrome is doing good job with its Blink engine but to be honest now Chromium starts getting more buggier then it was in Webkit API era. Don't know why.

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Smooth scrolling in Chrome is gradually improving and its already better than Firefox for me, although IE11 is on par with every browser in scrolling right now.

 

Now bad news for users...

Chrome 33 will contain new tab page with big Google search bar and logo in it. Instant API one and you can't disable it.

KRo8c1P.png

 

Next thing is bug currently in Chromium, it send mouse events without any reason... Result is that if you open Facebook Image Viewer, its hover action activation state start flickering even if you move your mouse and some button and clicks does not get register like on Logitech support, you can't select stuff in OS 32-bit etc. Also Gmail tabs does not getting switch on clicks... Although its bleeding edge and this can happen, so don't worry. Just reminding beforehand though....

You'll get used to the new layout. It's not that bad actually. 

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I don't know why I am having different smooth scrolling behavior with Firefox then you because for me Firefox smooth scrolling is jerky and not smooth at all with middle button as well (could Logitech driver might be messing up). Although I am on Nightly, hopeful tomorrow's Nightly will add off the main thread compositing which will relax main thread little bit so scrolling might improve little.

Overall Chrome is doing good job with its Blink engine but to be honest now Chromium starts getting more buggier then it was in Webkit API era. Don't know why.

That's only because of Aura. The really rushed the landing of it and now have to work out all the kinks. I kinda hope they disable it for 32 Release or there will be many tears on teh interwebs.

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That's only because of Aura. The really rushed the landing of it and now have to work out all the kinks. I kinda hope they disable it for 32 Release or there will be many tears on teh interwebs.

 

No, I think it is because of their newly DOM prototype chains related change + Web Animation backend for CSS3 Transitions and Animations + Default W3C Touch event thingy... LOL!!!

 

did they disable aura on chromium 33 for windows?

 

Nope.

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Next thing is bug currently in Chromium, it send mouse events without any reason... Result is that if you open Facebook Image Viewer, its hover action activation state start flickering even if you move your mouse and some button and clicks does not get register like on Logitech support, you can't select stuff in OS 32-bit etc. Also Gmail tabs does not getting switch on clicks... Although its bleeding edge and this can happen, so don't worry. Just reminding beforehand though....

 

At last with Version 33.0.1730.0 (238958), this particular bug is now fixed....

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Add DirectWrite flag and plumb it through to Blink

Add an "enable-direct-write" flag and plumb it through to

WebRuntimeFeatures on the Blink side.

 

Review URL: https://codereview.chromium.org/66333016

Bug: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=25541

 

Not to mention, Background Downloader, improved Bookmark functionality and new Translator UI.

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i really wish you could enable the stackable tabs on the mac version. it's the only thing keeping me from using chrome when I'm on OSX as I tend to have quite a few tabs open at once

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i really wish you could enable the stackable tabs on the mac version. it's the only thing keeping me from using chrome when I'm on OSX as I tend to have quite a few tabs open at once

The only thing thats keeping me from using it on OSX is an incredibly annoying bug where the right click menu on the new tab bar's bookmark page randomly stops working :/ (after using chrome for a while, when I right click on something in the bookmark bar I just get no right click menu at all, I have to restart chrome).

 

edit: seems like the issue may have gone away with the latest beta updates

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nvidia 331.65 driver got blacklisted due to pink corruption:

 

 

 

Blacklist NVIDIA driver 9.18.13.3165 on windows

It caused incorrect rendering (in pink), and upgrading to .3182 fixed the issue.

 

Bug: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=319115

 

https://codereview.chromium.org/110723002

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You'll get used to the new layout. It's not that bad actually.

What I dislike about it is that you can't set your own bookmarks as the tiles below the search bar.

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Also to use direct write in Chrome:

1. Go to about:flags and search for LCD Text Anti-Aliasing and enable it.

2. then open Chrome shortcut present on your desktop and in Target add --direct-write in the end.

 

Just tried this, made a marginal difference IMO. When is proper DirectWrite support coming? Quite frustrating this is the only thing holding me back from using Chrome because fonts in Firefox look so much cleaner/smooth due to ClearType.

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Just tried this, made a marginal difference IMO. When is proper DirectWrite support coming? Quite frustrating this is the only thing holding me back from using Chrome because fonts in Firefox look so much cleaner/smooth due to ClearType.

 

 

Flag changed from --direct-write to --enable-direct-write , so try new one.

 

Its landing bits by bits.. First they will add initial Direct Write support in their Skia library, remove Web Fonts usages... Bits by bits. I am also interested in this support, so I post every changelog related to it in here.. Follow up this thread... :)

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+Zlip792 MVC

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Use SkFontMgr for webfont construction on windows

Change FontCache to expose the SkFontMgr implementation and use that to

construct webfonts on windows. This way the appropriate font manager

(DirectWrite or GDI) is used for webfonts just as it is for system

fonts.

 

Bug: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=25541

Review URL: https://codereview.chromium.org/113193005

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