Windows 8 is the first OS that made me downgrade


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go in to the Metro control panel settings in Metro of course and go to general then go to the bottom go to of that tab area and go to advanced startup you will have more options to do things including i think to go in to safemode

Thanks. It allows me to install unsigned driver but after I reboot it disables the device because it's unsigned. Is there any way around this?

So it's:

mouse right bottom corner > settings > change pc settings > general > advanced startup > troubleshoot > advanced options > Startup settings > then hit restart

after that you get the safe mode menu on boot. Were they high or something?

And I agree with you as well on this. If Microsoft would give the user the option to use Metro or the regular desktop UI - with Star Menu included - Then yes, by all means, I would upgrade in a heartbeat. The problem is just that, they want to stick the user with Metro and no start menu wether they like it or not and that my friend is not cool at all. That is VERY disrespectful.

Really? Desktop mode????? **** sake

and yes i know you mentioned including start menu but the start menu in desktop mode is so similar it shouldnt have warranted me even replying to that bit.

I love windows 8! When i installed RTM on my harddisk it felt like running from an ssd..the OS is much more snappier than 7 hands down. Live tiles are cool, task manager has been revamped, ribbon bar makes life easier and cooler, booting times are tighter, and the metro experience is great, just because the start menu has now gone it does not mean windows 8 is a fail just learn the new windows and stop moaning or begging MS to bring back the old fashioned start menu. MS is moving forward not backwards. I bearly use the startmenu...this is what i have to say on windows 8. Ready to buy the pro license! windows 8 user/lover :)

Thanks. It allows me to install unsigned driver but after I reboot it disables the device because it's unsigned. Is there any way around this?

So it's:

mouse right bottom corner > settings > change pc settings > general > advanced startup > troubleshoot > advanced options > Startup settings > then hit restart

after that you get the safe mode menu on boot. Were they high or something?

... Seriously, it's impossible to access the boot menu? Are you sure? Pretty certain I read an article saying they had to actually deliberately slow down Windows 8's boot speed on SSD's so that users had time to access the boot menu...

If you truly can't access it on boot anymore, we're going to be screwed. What the hell do you do if you get malware on your machine that launches on startup and prevents you getting to the desktop? I had to clean some of that off my dad's laptop last night, and the only way to avoid launching the bloody thing was to start in safe mode; everything else was disabled by the malware...

for noobs only...

here is a registry mod i made to make life easier on windows 8. i collected the most used windows standard tools to show up when you right click the computer icon on desktop.

this will help you stay calm if you don`t like winodws 8 metro and all the changes it brought. if you want my registry mod just pm me :D

here is the computer context menu after the mod is applied :woot: :jump:

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... Seriously, it's impossible to access the boot menu? Are you sure? Pretty certain I read an article saying they had to actually deliberately slow down Windows 8's boot speed on SSD's so that users had time to access the boot menu...

If you truly can't access it on boot anymore, we're going to be screwed. What the hell do you do if you get malware on your machine that launches on startup and prevents you getting to the desktop? I had to clean some of that off my dad's laptop last night, and the only way to avoid launching the bloody thing was to start in safe mode; everything else was disabled by the malware...

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Thanks. It allows me to install unsigned driver but after I reboot it disables the device because it's unsigned. Is there any way around this?

So it's:

mouse right bottom corner > settings > change pc settings > general > advanced startup > troubleshoot > advanced options > Startup settings > then hit restart

after that you get the safe mode menu on boot. Were they high or something?

I know what you said, but if that's the ONLY way to get the boot menu, that's terrible...

Oh, yeah thats how metro makes things simple. :D

Gotta write this down before I forgot how to get into safe mode.

mouse right bottom corner > settings > change pc settings > general > advanced startup > troubleshoot > advanced options > Startup settings > hit restart

Oh, yeah thats how metro makes things simple. :D

Gotta write this down before I forgot it.

mouse right bottom corner > settings > change pc settings > general > advanced startup > troubleshoot > advanced options > Startup settings > hit restart

Progress isnt it :)

Its not as if the overcomplication and over categorisation in Vista/Win7's control panel wasnt already bad enough (until you turned on classic view to get it to be sane and what should have been default)

Why do they continue to make things harder

I wouldnt give anyone at MS a gun, i think the proofs out there that the first thing they would take aim would be their own foot...

Oh, yeah thats how metro makes things simple. :D

Gotta write this down before I forgot it.

mouse right bottom corner > settings > change pc settings > general > advanced startup > troubleshoot > advanced options > Startup settings > hit restart

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Someone here mentioned that they weren't going to offer support for Windows 8.

I don't understand why one would do that. My job is to support what the customers use; like it or not. I'm not a big fan of Linux but because customers use it; I HAVE to learn to support it.

So if Windows 8 become a hit and everyone uses it; you still wont support it?

You know from those kind of statements that the people who make them are just playing at being an IT person. As you say if a customer brings in a Windows 8 machine, will a competent IT pro say they won't support it? How about an ipad, android tablet, WebOS tablet, Meego phone? All I can say is, good luck with that career, going to be a short one.

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<Snipped facepalm pic>

If you know better, why don't you actually post useful information instead of a lame facepalm pic, hmm? I genuinely want to know if you can still access the normal boot menu without first having to get into Windows in the first place.

If you know better, why don't you actually post useful information instead of a lame facepalm pic, hmm? I genuinely want to know if you can still access the normal boot menu without first having to get into Windows in the first place.

I'm at work and cant test....but how could W8 stop boot sequence before it loads? Is that not standard procedure options before the bootloader kicks in?

I'm at work and cant test....but how could W8 stop boot sequence before it loads? Is that not standard procedure options before the bootloader kicks in?

That's exactly what I'm wondering. I'd be astonished if they had, but IF they have, that's ridiculous... I only have the RP installed ATM, but I'll see what it does tonight...

Maybe not on your desktop screen per se, but when your whole table becomes your desktop...I wouldn't say no to a toy like this and I'm patiently waiting for the moment when the manufactures catch up! :D The software to run this thing is already here!

iDesk-Table-MultiTouch.jpg

I would love that! :D Where did you find it?

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Maybe not on your desktop screen per se, but when your whole table becomes your desktop...I wouldn't say no to a toy like this and I'm patiently waiting for the moment when the manufactures catch up! :D The software to run this thing is already here!

iDesk-Table-MultiTouch.jpg

Windows 8 + PixelSense? :D :D

Oh, yeah thats how metro makes things simple. :D

Gotta write this down before I forgot how to get into safe mode.

mouse right bottom corner > settings > change pc settings > general > advanced startup > troubleshoot > advanced options > Startup settings > hit restart

:blink:

You can still hit F8 at start-up to access the boot menu. You just get less time to do it (like 200ms on optimal hardware).

It's the F8 at startup to access the boot menu that is the crucial part. As long as that's still available, I'm happy. Thanks for confirming that. :)

I would love that! :D Where did you find it?

I wouldn't... Imagine dropping something heavy on it! Yikes!

All these whiners. Windows 8 is fantastic and has simplified my work flow as a professional graphics and web designer.

And that is fine. But those of us that have learned all these shortcuts and prefer the start menu enough to where it becomes a habit (I do not want to say "Oh wait, I am on Windows 8 nevermind" every time I want to do something because I have done these things thousands of times to where I do not need to think anymore. With Windows 8, I need to change the way I do things and it causes me to be less productive. Like my PC Control panel issue, it is not the fact that you need to right click instead of left click now. The issue is that it is different enough to break my workflow. When I am on Windows 8, and I want to go to Start - Control Panel, a few seconds later I say "Oh wait I am on Windows 8". That few seconds adds up), we are simply treated as either Whiners or people who cannot accept change.

So since we do not blindly upgrade to the latest OS, even if it makes our life much more difficult with the way we use the OS today, we are called whiners and cannot accept change.

It is really irritating.

If the start menu was so horrible technically, why don't they remove it from Windows 7 with a patch/service pack? It does not make any sense why they would all of the sudden say "OMG Start Menu has been SOOOOO HORRIBLE since Windows 95 and we should not include it ANY MORE". The reason the removed it was not for technical reasons, it was so people are forced to use the start screen. If you cannot see that, then I do not know what to say. Why wasn't it removed in Windows 7? Why are people now saying the start menu has been horrible since Windows 95?

Microsoft could have fixed it but instead they completely removed it. And the only reason for doing so is to force people to use the Start Screen.

That desk...wow wow wow!!! :D

Does anyone remember seeing the concept video of something like that? I think the video included someone setting a digital camera on it - pictures appeared and you could enlarge them multitouch etc, also of setting your credit card on it to pay for things in restaurants and transferring files by swiping the file from one phone to another. Was epic.

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