CentralDogma Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Adds option for WinKey to show fullscreen Metro desktop Unless I'm missing something, that doesn't seem to be the case. Edit: OK, looks like that's not an option for classic style menu. Definitely sticking with Classic Shell. This version of Start8 is only intended as a Beta and will stop working on October 1, 2012. That's unfortunate. Looks like I'll be sticking to Classic Shell until they finish. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595133535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz99 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Why not have the best of both worlds? +1 Jose_49 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595133545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted August 29, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted August 29, 2012 I see no reason to use Windows 8. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595133547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted August 29, 2012 Member Share Posted August 29, 2012 I may actually give it a try now. I was worried about not having a start menu but this program solves that worry. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595133559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Excellent news. I'd heard about it before for the CP/RP, glad it's working on RTM. I might look into having Windows 8 for my desktop now! :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595133635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unrealistic Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Well with this new version, my Windows 8 upgrade is now final. Now (as others have already said) I get the speed improvements of Windows 8, the features of Metro AND my jumplists! VMware Workstation is now usable again for me. Jose_49 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595133799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom7000 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the "Highlight newly installed programs"? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595133849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unrealistic Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the "Highlight newly installed programs"? I'd like to know that and if there's a way to have more than 10 items pinned, like in Windows 7. I used to pin 20. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595133901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyLarry Veteran Posted August 30, 2012 Veteran Share Posted August 30, 2012 That's unfortunate. Looks like I'll be sticking to Classic Shell until they finish. I believe all this means is once October 1st comes, they will be releasing a version you have to pay for, just as they did with Fences, a Stardock program which I personally love as although I do not have a ton on my desktop, I do keep some stuff, and Fences organizes anything on the desktop brilliantly. I think I am one of the only people on Neowin who has yet to even install 8. I just plan on doing so when it is finally released. I like to be adventurous. :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595133913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris123NT Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 This program has now officially become awesome. Earlier versions were pointless as it was just "mini-metro". This is the only fully functional win 7 start menu for windows 8, especially if you look at the start search capabilities. Ahh now I can type and actually have it search files or settings right there without me having to click the damn category every time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595133967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrian Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I liked Start8 before, but now I love it. Now they just need to let us customize it a bit. I desperately need to be able to add links to videos and downloads, as well as expand the control panel into a menu instead of a link to it, in order for this to feel truly complete. This is just brilliant, thank you Stardock (and I don't say that very often these days)! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595133979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceles Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Lol, Windows 8 has suddenly made the very start menu immortal, thanks to 3rd party applications, the one that mimics it the best is Start8 right now, so much for trying to eliminate a legacy way to access program, their very arrogance to impose metro will pretty much allow the start menu to find its way through any windows thanks to this... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595133983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Berry Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Yeah, it's looking like you'll have to pay for Start8 come October, which is worth it. They'd sell me on it right now over Classic Shell if they port every single Customize Start Menu feature over from Windows 7, especially "Number of recent programs to display" and "Number of recent items to display in Jump Lists" where you can change the size (20 and 20 is fine) and the "Use large icons" toggle that Windows 7 has. P.S. The only reason I'd need a start menu restored is a quick way to shutdown/restart the PC, instead of the hoops you have to jump through otherwise. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595133985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceles Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Yeah, it's looking like you'll have to pay for Start8 come October, which is worth it. They'd sell me on it right now over Classic Shell if they port every single Customize Start Menu feature over from Windows 7, especially "Number of recent programs to display" and "Number of recent items to display in Jump Lists" where you can change the size (20 and 20 is fine) and the "Use large icons" toggle that Windows 7 has. I pretty much would do the same, I can't believe how fast now fells navigate through windows 8... and just by this single program, impressive. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595133991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abysal Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Yeah, it's looking like you'll have to pay for Start8 come October, which is worth it. They'd sell me on it right now over Classic Shell if they port every single Customize Start Menu feature over from Windows 7, especially "Number of recent programs to display" and "Number of recent items to display in Jump Lists" where you can change the size (20 and 20 is fine) and the "Use large icons" toggle that Windows 7 has. P.S. The only reason I'd need a start menu restored is a quick way to shutdown/restart the PC, instead of the hoops you have to jump through otherwise. Yep. I'd also like control panel settings items to be indexed for searching. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595133993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Gamerz Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 man isnt nice to know how many people cant use windows without a start button.. people if u cant use 8 without a start button go back to 7 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595133995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris123NT Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 man isnt nice to know how many people cant use windows without a start button.. people if u cant use 8 without a start button go back to 7 I have no problem with the BUTTON not being there, but I like the option to have a menu so i can quickly open something without taking focus off what I am working on. Windows 8 isn't all about Metro, there are many improvements on the desktop as well, and now having an app that lets you work on that desktop uninterrupted is a huge bonus. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595134027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralDogma Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I believe all this means is once October 1st comes, they will be releasing a version you have to pay for, just as they did with Fences, a Stardock program which I personally love as although I do not have a ton on my desktop, I do keep some stuff, and Fences organizes anything on the desktop brilliantly. I think I am one of the only people on Neowin who has yet to even install 8. I just plan on doing so when it is finally released. I like to be adventurous. :laugh: Oh, I don't have 8 either. I tried it on the RC I have running on an old PC. Start8 is nice, it fixes one of my main annoyances with Classic Shell: Classic Shell doesn't actually use the built in Windows list of frequently used programs, it creates it's own list from programs you open using Classic Shell. Start8 seems to use the built in list, which is nice. But, I'm not willing to pay for just that, so I'll probably just stick with Classic Shell. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595134061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit_liberty_rumble Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Windows 8 actually starts to feel like a sane operating system again once you've installed this, set it to go directly to the desktop (although that seems to work only intermittently?),enabled the classic style start menu, disabled Windows 8 hotspots and removed the Metro app file associations. Plus, you still have the option to enter Metro-land whenever you feel so adventurous. And the hotspots continue to work fine in Metro (and make a lot more sense there). The Metro start screen will now be reserved purely for Metro apps. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595134857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
torrentthief Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I wish stardock would make a Win8 windows explorer for windows 7 but with added functionality such as tabs. A bit like with QTtabbar. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595134887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit_liberty_rumble Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 The search feature still needs a lot of improvement though. It doesn't find control panel items and the first result is often not what one would expect. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595134911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraud OS 11 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 This new Start8 beta is quite impressive. Beats Classic Shell in some key areas: - Recent Jump lists (Classic Shell has unified Recent Items list) - Launch Metro apps (Classic Shell lets you Shift+Winkey or Shift+click to go the Start screen to launch them) - Highlighting newly installed apps (Classic Shell doesn't have this) - Search (Start8's search still needs some work, but nevertheless, it searches apps and files, not settings, Classic Shell searches apps and settings, not files) - Shows system MRU/MFU program list (Classic Shell uses its own MRU list) Classic Shell has some catching up to do in some areas, in many areas like classic menu functionality, total customization, skinning, Explorer and IE fixes it's already far ahead. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595134963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugwump00 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I was starting to get used to the Start Screen, but boy do I miss a MRU-apps and occasional-apps-with-jumplists menu. If MS has just ported those features over, I would denounce this as retro-nonsense, but as it is, my first 5 minutes are very pleasing. Any word of the $$??s? They need to sort out the awful old chroming of the Power-control button and user's image. Looks cheesey. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595134965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalfox Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Guys, Price? Haven't they say more than once it will freeware always, only OEMs will have to pay to include it in their distributions. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595135045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit_liberty_rumble Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Is there a utility to bring the shadows back as well? :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1101929-start8-brings-the-start-menu-back/page/2/#findComment-595135067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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