Wyn6 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I'm just posting because I love the title of the article. Heh. Jumped the Shark. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1105643-apple-jumped-the-shark/page/2/#findComment-595198645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grik Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Love the simplicity and lovely design on iOS, it is also a bit boring because it never crashes its superbly easy to handle and also limited. I wish there was SBSettings on iOS at this momment but im very happy. Iv configured some Android phones, it has some advantages and much more options to change the looks and i would use it for fun but never as my daily handset its too ugly and confusing, it looks and feels chinese, even the SG2 for example and its not smooth like iphone 4 for example the touch and feel is very diferent if one tries both phones you can easily spot that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1105643-apple-jumped-the-shark/page/2/#findComment-595199277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DKAngel Subscriber² Posted September 23, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted September 23, 2012 Love the simplicity and lovely design on iOS, it is also a bit boring because it never crashes its superbly easy to handle and also limited. I wish there was SBSettings on iOS at this momment but im very happy. Iv configured some Android phones, it has some advantages and much more options to change the looks and i would use it for fun but never as my daily handset its too ugly and confusing, it looks and feels chinese, even the SG2 for example and its not smooth like iphone 4 for example the touch and feel is very diferent if one tries both phones you can easily spot that. the lok and feel of my mums iphone 4 and my wifes sgs2 is very different, i prefer how the galaxy sit sin my hand, it feels lighter and i also found the interface much more usable than ios, and also the sgs2 feels just as smooth as the iphone, i see the iphone as i do the old nokias, just a dumbphone that hasnt changed in years Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1105643-apple-jumped-the-shark/page/2/#findComment-595199321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fehu Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I think that you all have glorified too much Jobs, he made errors too as anyone, and I don't think that inside apple everyone is dumb, and until now Jobs moved everything. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1105643-apple-jumped-the-shark/page/2/#findComment-595199365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 This is what people are reporting with iPhone 5. Quality issues aplenty. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qLJ4kzW8DM Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1105643-apple-jumped-the-shark/page/2/#findComment-595199683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Apple failed when Jobs left. Apple succeeded when Jobs came back. Apple is nothing without Jobs. One of the major things is that this happens with every company and their founder.. You can't expect that Tim Cook or anyone else there has the same passion and tenacity in running Apple as Jobs. It's simple as that. He also had vision, aside from those of us who disliked him, even if you are copying and taking something from other people's ideas in the technical terms you still had to have a vision to make it into a product everyone would want. That's what he has done. If you look at Apple now, they are afraid. They are afraid to change anything because the iPhone as it is, is their main milking machine. If they screw it up, they are caput. Btw, this is what a lot of people were saying. Apple is done without Jobs. Yes, it wasn't obvious the moment Jobs died, but that's not how it happens. What's happening now with Apple (marginal improvements, no new products, coasting on Jobs' glory products) is exactly what's the problem with them. They have no direction. They are just trying to prolong the success of the 2 products Jobs wanted and make as much money as they can on them because nobody there knows what's next nor has a vision to make something as impactful as what Steve Jobs did with iPod, iPhone and finally iPad. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1105643-apple-jumped-the-shark/page/2/#findComment-595199695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulheu Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I don't think the hardware is the problem. It's the software. Look at the iOS. Same old icons, ugly gradients, horrible skeuomorphic design of the default apps. This.. and if you see the iPhone5 next to the Lumia 920 you see how dated iOS really looks. I agree the phone is quite nice design wise, although I fear design is taking precedence over hardware innovation here, but iOS really need a big overhaul. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1105643-apple-jumped-the-shark/page/2/#findComment-595199715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted September 23, 2012 Member Share Posted September 23, 2012 I think you're going to be seeing more coming from Microsoft/Nokia in the future. They have the creative genius to out-Apple Apple. I think so too. Apple has clearly hit a creative slump with Job's passing. Microsoft is very tenacious and will really go for blood when they feel a kill is near. I don't think Nokia will play that big of role, however. I fell HTC or Samsung has a better chance of taking the lead in 8 sales. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1105643-apple-jumped-the-shark/page/2/#findComment-595199805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I don't think Apple is lost without Jobs. Maybe they won't be as creative, maybe they won't introduce as many new products, but I think they'll continue to do well for a very long time. I think the reason they don't massively change up the iPhone or iOS is because they don't have to: they have their loyal fan base that will seemingly stick with them no matter what. (Look how many are blindly defending the poor Maps app right now.) Microsoft continues to exist long after Bill Gates gave up day-to-day running of the company. And people often forget that Apple was actually a more profitable company after Steve Jobs initially left in 1985. Time will tell what happens to Apple, but for the time being, I can't see much happening to them. They still have Ive, Schiller and most of the other executives who came with Jobs from the 1997 NeXTstep acquisition. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1105643-apple-jumped-the-shark/page/2/#findComment-595199863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Microsoft continues to exist long after Bill Gates gave up day-to-day running of the company. Microsoft is also a hell of a lot more diversified than Apple is. Microsoft's products: Windows Office Server Xbox Bing / Live Windows Phone Windows RT Sync (Radios) Accessories (keyboards, mice etc) Apple: Computers iPhone iPod iPad iTunes/App Store Of which Microsoft is probably in 99% of homes in the form of Office and in 99.9% of businesses, and in 96% of businesses for Windows and 87% (or something) for consumers Apple has a very small user base for the computer portion and their iPod sales are dwindling when people are using their smart phones as MP3 players now. That leaves the iPhone/iPad as their bread and butter products. Last I checked, the iPhone was losing market share, and tablets are still a luxury product out of many people's price range. Apple is a victim of their success. By limiting their OS's to only their hardware (both on the desktop and on mobile), they are limiting their ability to penetrate the market as their competitors can release more products more often than they can. If you has iOS on a Samsung or LG device, apple then would gain revenue from the App store... but of course they love their closed garden Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1105643-apple-jumped-the-shark/page/2/#findComment-595200749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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