New smoking guns in Apollo moon hoax ?

[threetonesun]

If you were intelligent, you would have READ the reasons why they are very unlikely to be genuine, before posting. :laugh:

You added no reasoning why you think the Moon images are real.

There's no need to prove their real, unless you're insane. There's a possibility to prove that they're fake, but no one has any actual, reasonable evidence of that being the case.

If you think there's some grand coverup involving thousands of people, multiple US Presidents, large-scale advanced technology and mounds of photo and video graphic proof, you might as well not believe anything is true.

Why do some people spend so much time trying to discredit something, someone would have already confirmed it was faked if it was fake, its very hard to keep a secret for 40 years. And, at the time the USSR would have jumped at any opportunity to discredit the US.

To be fair, the USSR had fields full of fake tanks and planes... a fake moon landing at the time would have been appropriate counter-propaganda.

[Hawkeye666]

How can anyone dunb enough to buy this nonsense even get on the internet to post this crap?

[MDboyz]

NEW SMOKING GUN: the Govt. lies to you. The earth is actually flat. /s

Remember your eyes will see what your mind wants to see.

[torrentthief]

To be fair how can anyone discredit the photo at the end of the 1st page of this thread with no tracks from the lunar vehicle. Hope can it move without leaving tracks?

[Hum]

Why do some people spend so much time trying to discredit something, someone would have already confirmed it was faked if it was fake, its very hard to keep a secret for 40 years.

Clearly the secret isn't being kept, with such websites. ;)

No one is trying to discredit -- rather they are seeking the truth on a given event.

To be fair how can anyone discredit the photo at the end of the 1st page of this thread with no tracks from the lunar vehicle. Hope can it move without leaving tracks?

My only thought on that is that maybe the tire treads became so full of dust, that there is only a flat, dusty tire surface left, so that there is nothing to make an impression in the 'dirt'. Maybe the reduced gravity also helped to not leave deep marks.

Kind of like your would not leave actual prints from your feet, if your wore socks.

[Hum]

I think I understand now what he meant by a white cloth/canvas.

The large area between the moon surface Scott is supposed to be standing on, and the hill in the background, is a very white area.

If you look at the larger version close up, it does look like it could be raised up, as a canvas or sheet might curl up at the edge, giving the impression that it is laying on top of the 'ground'.

Look at the left third of the picture, close up.

There looks like rover tracks on the dark dust surface, but not on the whiter area. The tracks suddenly end.

http://upload.wikime...2000-001114.jpg

[JonathanVP]

I believe it and Capricorn One is true! :)

[Azies]

Hum, I just don't see it... Maybe I'm oblivious or something, but that just looks like it rolled over a tiny hill, and I don't see any white sheets to speak of.

Oh geez, I see it now, wow.

[TPreston]

Look at the left third of the picture, close up.

There looks like rover tracks on the dark dust surface, but not on the whiter area. The tracks suddenly end.

http://upload.wikime...2000-001114.jpg

That's because there's a creator its driven up on lol

[majortom1981]

The pic with the rover tracks is a dune type thing. The tracks probably go back up the upside of the dune. I don't see anything that shows a canvas. Also people have to understand there is no wind to cause erosion on the moon. So the craters have a lip of dust on them .Its not a sheet or canvas.

[HawkMan]

I posted this to see what people thought -- unfortunately there aren't many intelligent replies.

I too, do not see the white sheet allegedly laying on the ground, and do not understand why there would be one, even on a movie set.

They may have sent men to the moon, however, it's pretty clear that none of the video or photographs were taken there.

For people who have a clue how light and photography works, it is in fact quite clear that all the videos and photographs where taken there.

as for the white sheet. there is no white sheet. it's called lighting based on geography. behind the astronaut the ground goes up in a small rolling "hill", there's then a brief drop in the terrain, making that terrain point away from the camera and thus can't be seen. it then goes back up again, as as it gets high enough to pop up behind the previous hill it gets visible again, and due to the angle of the up hill it's lighter, and thus you have a white "sheet", then it dips again further back, ad the hill in the background that's further back and thus send less light to the camera comes up behind it, and is darker from being further back and and angle from the sunlight. and voila there you have your magical white sheet, which really isn't, it's just sunshine on a rolling hill.

I think I understand now what he meant by a white cloth/canvas.

The large area between the moon surface Scott is supposed to be standing on, and the hill in the background, is a very white area.

If you look at the larger version close up, it does look like it could be raised up, as a canvas or sheet might curl up at the edge, giving the impression that it is laying on top of the 'ground'.

Look at the left third of the picture, close up.

There looks like rover tracks on the dark dust surface, but not on the whiter area. The tracks suddenly end.

http://upload.wikime...2000-001114.jpg

Of course the tracks end, as I explained to your previous post, it's a hilltop....

[Anibal P]

For people who have a clue how light and photography works, it is in fact quite clear that all the videos and photographs where taken there.

as for the white sheet. there is no white sheet. it's called lighting based on geography. behind the astronaut the ground goes up in a small rolling "hill", there's then a brief drop in the terrain, making that terrain point away from the camera and thus can't be seen. it then goes back up again, as as it gets high enough to pop up behind the previous hill it gets visible again, and due to the angle of the up hill it's lighter, and thus you have a white "sheet", then it dips again further back, ad the hill in the background that's further back and thus send less light to the camera comes up behind it, and is darker from being further back and and angle from the sunlight. and voila there you have your magical white sheet, which really isn't, it's just sunshine on a rolling hill.

Of course the tracks end, as I explained to your previous post, it's a hilltop....

In the picture right next to the Astronaut you can see more tracks from the rover, just a bit harder to see what with all the footprints that would cover up the tracks like it would in the real world

[thommcg]

If you look at the larger version close up, it does look like it could be raised up, as a canvas or sheet might curl up at the edge, giving the impression that it is laying on top of the 'ground'.

Look at the left third of the picture, close up.

Conspiratorial desert shot. If anyone has the patience to adjust the colours to match the moon shots... feel free. Look at all those unnatural lines, etc.

[Farstrider]

@Thommcg: Conspiratorial desert shot. If anyone has the patience to adjust the colours to match the moon shots... feel free. Look at all those unnatural lines, etc.

Only problem with your crappy analysis, is that there is ZERO weather on the Moon like there is on Earth [sic] "desert shot"!!

[TPreston]

Only problem with your crappy analysis, is that there is ZERO weather on the Moon like there is on Earth [sic] "desert shot"!!

It is however blasted by rocks from space for millions of years :rolleyes:

[exotoxic]

Clearly the secret isn't being kept, with such websites. ;) No one is trying to discredit -- rather they are seeking the truth on a given event.

I like how you removed the most important part out of the quote... If there had been any reason to believe it was fake the Russians would certainly have made a big fuss about it.

[RiverCampher]

Honestly if you brought Hum to the moon itself showing a flag and the tracks, he'd still not believe it. It's almost a religion in its own right where the truth doesn't matter, only his perception full of wild explanations for proven facts.

He still wants to encourage discussion, and that's his agenda. If people get riled up about it, that's their problem, tbh these postings are better ignored rather than over than replied to.

[Farstrider]

Honestly if you brought Hum to the moon itself showing a flag and the tracks, he'd still not believe it. It's almost a religion in its own right where the truth doesn't matter, only his perception full of wild explanations for proven facts.

He still wants to encourage discussion, and that's his agenda. If people get riled up about it, that's their problem, tbh these postings are better ignored rather than over than replied to.

Sorry, but you contradict yourself badly! What are you doing in this thread if, as you put it, " ...tbh these posting are better ignored rather than over [?] than [?] replied to." [??]

[*RedBull*]

someone please point a telescope at the moon with a close up of the site to end this nonsense.

[RiverCampher]

Sorry, but you contradict yourself badly! What are you doing in this thread if, as you put it, " ...tbh these posting are better ignored rather than over [?] than [?] replied to." [??]

Sorry re-reading it it wasn't clear. I meant to say, if you get annoyed about them, perhaps it's better to ignore the posts :) I don't mind them, sometimes they are a bit frequent, but not so much lately. I just watch everyone trying to prove the obvious.

[TPreston]

someone please point a telescope at the moon with a close up of the site to end this nonsense.

Allready been done hubble etc

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

Anyone that believe this believes in Santa Claus, The Tooth Fairy and that The Moon is made of cheese. :busted: :rofl:

[bigbas]

Watch the episode of Myth Busters....they went over many of the conspiracy theories...here are the links. These people are awesome!

Multiple light sources:

Astronaut in shadow:

Flag Fluttering in Wind:

[redvamp128]

You seriously take those **** poor fuzzy blurry images as proof of anything ??? LOL :rofl:

What they don't show- is what was leading up to that shot-

If someone were to take the time to look at video footage of the craft- it is something that can even happen on the Earth (ever been to a monster truck rally) ...OR WENT MUD BOGGING.... The moon buggy bounces because of the low gravity... heck there are even shots where the astronaut was bounced out of the seat... This shot could have easily been on the downward bump of the travel after hitting a slight incline...

imagining- hitting a slight incline - tires go off the moon-- land then -- it stops--- hence no tracks... think Monster truck rally when the truck hits a car and goes airborne... when it lands ... no tracks leading up to it.

[Som]

have you nothing better to be doing?