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IK 47, I'm just curious why you bought a Dell PC and a Intel 64bit CPU opposed to a self build and an AMD Athlon 64?

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In november 2003 I purchased:

Dell 8300

Pentium Four Northwood 2.8Ghz HT 800Mhz FSB, 512KB L2

512MB DDR-RAM

80GB HDD

16x DVD-ROM

Creative SB Audigy 2

Ati 9800XT

1703FP 17" LCD

Logitech MX Duo

4 year warranty

- All this for $2200 taxed, shipped.

In december 2005, my graphics card fan was making noise, so they sent me the machine that I have now. It was a long battle.

Went something like this:

9800XT making noise

1703fp is coming apart at the bottom

1st replacement for 9800xt doesn't let me boot

1st replacement for 1703fp is all scratched up and has dead pixels

2nd replacement for 9800xt runs too hot

2nd replacement for 1703fp has a blotch in the middle

3rd replacement for 1703fp arrives wet and frozen (literally, there was ice on it)

4th replacement for 1703fp has strobing backlight

Dell decides to replace my mobo

I give them hell for sending me bad refurbished parts. so they send me new ones.

a refurbished mobo (redundent), the wrong monitor (wrong) and a pci-e 6800GTO (incompatible) arrive

I give them hell for all this stupidity. They send me as a courtesy 1GB of ram, and a 3.2Ghz presscott.

the presscott is too hot for the 8300 and requires extra cooling. also, the 250W psu is not enough. 315 required.

Cooling and PSU arrive

Problems still occur. I give them hell every day for 2 weeks.

Mr.Manager tells me that they will send me a new computer and a new monitor.

victory.

I was about to build my own computer with an AMD XP processor, but my uncle who at the time worked for dell got me a good deal. This deal was cheaper than building on my own, and it has a warranty. Also, at that time, I didn't know too much about computers.

Thats why I have a dell.

IK47 have you actually ever posted a pic of your workstation?

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:o

Yes he has... Several times.

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:yes:

my mess

:) nice setup man. I might become a mac man myself.

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I just checked the price at dell.ca  Right now, this computer computer costs $3458

I have had this computer for less than 2 months, and I know that computers depreciate 30% each year.

heres the math:

30 div 12 = 2.5

2.5 * 2 = 5

3458 * 1.15 = 3977

3977 * 0.95 = 3797

even after 2 months of depreciation, this machine is worth $3797 Canadian.

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i--wha--this math makes no sense..

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30 percent divided by 12 months = 1 month's percent of depreciation = 2.5

2.5 * 2 = 2 months worth of depreciation = 5

$3458 * 1.15 gst+pst = $3977 with tax

$3977 * 0.95 = dollar amount computer is worth after tax and 2 months worth of depreciation.

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Do you think that it is cool to quote images?

you must be one of those people who take herr1, even though you don't like it, just to fit in.

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Do you move your iMac round when you need to stick a CD in? or do CD's just squeeze in that gap between the screen and your desk?

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no problem at all:

Room4.jpg

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IK 47, I'm just curious why you bought a Dell PC and a Intel 64bit CPU opposed to a self build and an AMD Athlon 64?

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i agree dell is crap and he should have self buit it and some of us don't like amd's:-p

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Dell is not crap. Dell computers are #1 in value, as you cannot build a computer cheaper than the dell equivilent. Dell Computers also come with good warranties that support you when you need them. I am personally a student and cannot be without my computer for more than one week.

Dells are quiet, dependable and scalable. My computer doesn't use screws except for the PSU.

Granted, dell uses inferior parts and issues refurbished replacement parts, but every company has it's downside.

Even with all the stuff I have been through, Im still going to buy a 2405fpw with full warranty.

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Dell is not crap.  Dell computers are #1 in value, as you cannot build a computer cheaper than the dell equivilent.  Dell Computers also come with good warranties that support you when you need them.  I am personally a student and cannot be without my computer for more than one week.

Dells are quiet, dependable and scalable.  My computer doesn't use screws except for the PSU.

Granted, dell uses inferior parts and issues refurbished replacement parts, but every company has it's downside.

Even with all the stuff I have been through, Im still going to buy a 2405fpw with full warranty.

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i think theres where a lot of independent system builders suffer though, not only with dell but with other OEMs that sacrifice quality for pricing. additionally, just try and name some other major companies that use inferior parts in a product and still stay relatively successful.

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as you cannot build a computer cheaper than the dell equivilent

That's only true with their lower end, and lower midlevel products. Unless it's a crazy sale, i've never seen a higher end Dell I couldn't build cheaper. Either way, Dell makes a decent system, I'd recommend them to people who need warranty support big time, but as far as tweaking and upgrading :x

In fact, I have one sitting beside me right now, that belongs to my cousins today, found out this morning (while trying to format) that the xp cd was messed, so i used my home oem disc from my other system, turns out newer Dell systems use proprietary XP dics/keys, because I couldn't activiate with the key on their system. I had used this disc on multiple dells before, even my gf's last weekend, nothing. This proprietary stuff is getting out of hand

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That's only true with their lower end, and lower midlevel products. Unless it's a crazy sale, i've never seen a higher end Dell I couldn't build cheaper. Either way, Dell makes a decent system, I'd recommend them to people who need warranty support big time, but as far as tweaking and upgrading :x

In fact, I have one sitting beside me right now, that belongs to my cousins today, found out this morning (while trying to format) that the xp cd was messed, so i used my home oem disc from my other system, turns out newer Dell systems use proprietary XP dics/keys, because I couldn't activiate with the key on their system. I had used this disc on multiple dells before, even my gf's last weekend, nothing. This proprietary stuff is getting out of hand

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Truth! dell XPS are very very expensive for very little performance. The only good thing about dell is buying a barebones dimension 4700 for $500 and upging it yourself.

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About the key. I think the Dell's are not retail keys but more like VLK. If I remember you don't need to activate your OS when you get a new key. Since you used your retail disc that wasn't going to work. It's possible you can grab the i386 folder if you haven't destroyed the partition.

Dell's can be a good value imo. I dislike their service to some degree though. There aren't many places you can get a 3ghz computer with 1GB ram and a 19" lcd for under 1,000.

I'd build before I'd buy and since a computer lasts me around 4 - 5 years it's not much of a problem for me to spend a little more to put one togethor.

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i think theres where a lot of independent system builders suffer though, not only with dell but with other OEMs that sacrifice quality for pricing.  additionally, just try and name some other major companies that use inferior parts in a product and still stay relatively successful.

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When you buy from Dell who does the money go to? Bit of everywhere really, employees, government, head honcho dude. My local PC Store will match any Dell Price, comes with a warranty, built with quality branded components, and when you phone up you always speak to someone who knows everything as the company only has 3 people. When you buy there your supporting the community, employing local people.

As the comapny is small customer relations are always high as everyone knows everyone and as soon as a computers bought in feeling ill it's all sorted out and given back in 5 minutes time and a very small fee is payed if any parts were needed for the repair.

Stuff Dell! Support small, local, businesses.

I would say 'ma $2' but I need all the money I can get right now :p

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