Woman uses pepper spray,still gets beaten.

[KingCracker]

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. - video of a fight on a Rapid bus that includes one of the people involved to use pepper spray on the other. The fight starts at the back of the Rapid bus when a man gets up and appears to spit on a woman he was sitting next to. The woman immediately jumps up and sprays him with pepper spray. As the man walks away, the two keep yelling at each other. As the man charges back at the woman, she sprays him again. Some of that spray hits a child in the face. You can see him rubbing his eyes as the fight continues in the back of the bus.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f64_1355020158

[articuno1au]

Now if she had had a gun, should could have just blown his face off along with the kids.

Much better answer all around..

[FlintyV]

Wow, posting news to backup your notion about pepper spray not being a great self-defence weapon?

[Anibal P]

Wow, posting news to backup your notion about pepper spray not being a great self-defence weapon?

Because it isn't. Now a taser would have worked very well. Pepper spray is like CS gas, after a while it just doesn't phase you, we used to have fun in the gas chamber with the newer guys that weren't used to it yet

[KingCracker]

Wow, posting news to backup your notion about pepper spray not being a great self-defence weapon?

Well you and others think that people should use pepper spray ect, sometimes it doesn't work. In this case lethal force would not have been a wise choice as the woman pretty much instigated the confrontation by running her mouth but the point still stands that non lethal force isn't always the best option to protect yourself.

Because it isn't. Now a taser would have worked very well. Pepper spray is like CS gas, after a while it just doesn't phase you, we used to have fun in the gas chamber with the newer guys that weren't used to it yet

Sometimes taser's don't even work.

[*RedBull*]

Looks like she got what was coming to her. IMO, but then I think both should be behind bars. And if it were a White dude this would have gone down different.

[torrentthief]

pepperspray isn't supposed to stop violence it is an attempt to reduce it, you can still punch with it in your eyes. Infact you will be rather angry if someone just sprayed you in the eyes. It is better than nothing though, those rape whistles and horns won't help if you are in the middle of no-where.

[FlintyV]

Well you and others think that people should use pepper spray ect, sometimes it doesn't work. In this case lethal force would not have been a wise choice as the woman pretty much instigated the confrontation by running her mouth but the point still stands that non lethal force isn't always the best option to protect yourself.

Sometimes taser's don't even work.

Look forward to you posting news on when tasers fail then.

[KingCracker]

Look forward to you posting news on when tasers fail then.

Oh you can search for police video's of police officers tasering a suspect and it not having any effect on them.

[FlintyV]

Oh you can search for police video's of police officers tasering a suspect and it not having any effect on them.

Oh I know. I just thought it was going to be a new trend of starting news stories to backup your arguments. I just fail to see how this thread belongs in Real World News.

[LaP]

Well the man walked away from her. So it did work imo. The video looks edited. It cut right before the man charge her. How much time is cut ? Of course pepper spray wont put someone out of fight for 6 hours ... using it in a place you can't escape full of innocent people is not really bright.

BTW is the woman dead ?

[Japlabot]

Now if she had had a gun, should could have just blown his face off along with the kids.

Much better answer all around..

I'm not a gun nut, but in all honestly a bullet is not likely to ricochet into the kid, it is more likely to penetrate into the attacker and potentially out the other side (just make sure nobody is behind him) depending on the type of bullet used (I know that there ones that explode inside the target).

[KingCracker]

Oh I know. I just thought it was going to be a new trend of starting news stories to backup your arguments. I just fail to see how this thread belongs in Real World News.

Oh what like you do?

I'm not a gun nut, but in all honestly a bullet is not likely to ricochet into the kid, it is more likely to penetrate into the attacker and potentially out the other side (just make sure nobody is behind him) depending on the type of bullet used (I know that there ones that explode inside the target).

Hollow points. I keep them in my .40.

[FlintyV]

Oh what like you do?

Hollow points. I keep them in my .40.

Yup, news stories. Not a video I happen to find on Liveleak.

[KingCracker]

Yup, news stories. Not a video I happen to find on Liveleak.

Yep you dig for your stories to back up your views, most news stories are not nationally covered. But thanks for proving that you have an agenda. I guess i'll dig for news stories in england and post stories of people getting stabbed and beaten.. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[FlintyV]

Yep you dig for your stories to back up your views, most news stories are not nationally covered. But thanks for proving that you have an agenda. I guess i'll dig for news stories in england and post stories of people getting stabbed and beaten..

Lol, if that's what you think I do you're mistaken.

I mean there's plenty of stories I could post which would, as you put it back up my 'agenda', but I'm not going to because it's pretty silly and monotonous and I think people would grow pretty tired of it quickly, so I don't.

If you're going to post such things it would have been better to at least link it to a news story rather than just a video.

This thread will just degenerate into another gun debate.

[Richteralan]

Can't wait when gun fails.

[FunkyMike]

This video has been cut to the extend of where it doesn't show on what the woman did to provoke the guy to charge her. You can see the cut as he is walking away after the initial pepper spraying ready to get of the bus, whilst the woman gets up in what appears to entail some provocative move.

[DocM]

Because it isn't. Now a taser would have worked very well. Pepper spray is like CS gas, after a while it just doesn't phase you, we used to have fun in the gas chamber with the newer guys that weren't used to it yet

Correct, and some people can walk right through it from the first second. Also troublesome if someone's wearing glasses. Tasers are a bit better, but useless on someone with thick, or multiple layers of, clothing. This time of year when folks are wearing heavy winter coats or parkas....

Her best solution was once he started to walk away to STFU.

[Chicane-UK Veteran]

Yep you dig for your stories to back up your views, most news stories are not nationally covered. But thanks for proving that you have an agenda. I guess i'll dig for news stories in england and post stories of people getting stabbed and beaten.. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I think I speak for the majority of people in England when I say I'm quite happy that we have the gun laws we do, thanks very much. I have no desire to own a firearm and am quite happy that it means the majority of people aren't able to lay their hands on firearms either.

Americans on here don't seem to like it when people outside the US presume to speak on the way in which your country works - I'd suggest those outside of the UK shouldn't attempt to make guesses on how it works here!

[+Anarkii Subscriber²]

Salt shaker and she would of had a chance :p

[Growled Member]

Some people. Wow!

[Azusa]

Dude I'm with you on some things but this one is covered in wood chips from the barrel you scraped it from.

I think I speak for the majority of people in England when I say I'm quite happy that we have the gun laws we do, thanks very much. I have no desire to own a firearm and am quite happy that it means the majority of people aren't able to lay their hands on firearms either.

Americans on here don't seem to like it when people outside the US presume to speak on the way in which your country works - I'd suggest those outside of the UK shouldn't attempt to make guesses on how it works here!

Yet it's always the people you don't want having them that end up with them i.e the drug dealers, the chav lords, and the alround lowest of the low the sort that the Government dosn't even know exists.

[123456789A]

I just spray people in the face with Roundup.

[+Warwagon MVC]

So if someone spits on you the correct response is to hit them in the face with pepper spray?