PepsiCo quietly changes sweetener in Diet Pepsi

[+Warwagon MVC]

That was Coke, this one's Pepsi :p

I know, but still, those were the good old days!

[+Raze Subscriber²]

Just buy some Mexican Coke (cola) and some Peruvian Blue Flake and mix, goodtimes!

[green_link]

More like corn lobbying.

In a lot of other countries coke is made with real sugar. However in North America it's made with high fructose corn syrup because of lobbying.

um...coke is made with real sugar in Canada.......which, the last time i checked, was part of north america.....

[Mr. Gibs]

um...coke is made with real sugar in Canada.......which, the last time i checked, was part of north america.....

Sorry I meant the US, not sure why I wrote NA.

[DocM]

Quietly? Really? About as quiet as a Howitzer.

Pepsi and Coke have been moving to using alternatives like acesulfame potassium and Stevia, an extract from the Stevia plant (an herb in the sunflower family that's -300x sweeter than sugar) found in S. Smerica, for several years - this while marketing it under the names Truvia (Coke) and Purevia (Pepsi) in the diet sweetener section. Other companies are also marketing Stevia, one being Stevia In The Raw which is suitable for baking. Other companies offer Stevia extracts in liquid concentrate form.

Stevis has found a big following among diabetics - in some locales in S. America the stevia plant is used as a treatment, and I found that my glucose level took a healthy dive when I switched to it.

Stevia took a long time to get to the US except as an herbal product (couldn't be labeled a 'food') because the sugar and other sweetener companies lobbied the FDA to keep it out. Even now the FDA's not letting in the strongest (and some say the best) of the Stevia extracts.

[linsook]

um...coke is made with real sugar in Canada.......which, the last time i checked, was part of north america.....

Uhmm... I don't think so.

[green_link]

Uhmm... I don't think so.

i will go get a can right now. in fact e a bottle of coke in my fridge.

don't argue with me. i went to the US on vacation and couldn't stand the taste of the coke i was drinking. i checked the ingerdients took a picture of the can and when i got back to canada compared the pic with a CANADIAN can of coke and sure enough the CANADIAN coke had real sugar listed and tasted like the coke i grew up with

[The Evil Overlord]

What the hell, I'll bite, UK Coke is better :p

So is Pepsi

(Vain attempt to stay on topic)

[linsook]

i will go get a can right now. in fact e a bottle of coke in my fridge.

don't argue with me. i went to the US on vacation and couldn't stand the taste of the coke i was drinking. i checked the ingerdients took a picture of the can and when i got back to canada compared the pic with a CANADIAN can of coke and sure enough the CANADIAN coke had real sugar listed and tasted like the coke i grew up with

Just google canada coke sugar. On chowhound and redflagdeals you got canadians asking about where to get coke made with sugar. They talk about where to get passover/kosher coke, trini coke, mexican coke etc.

Edit: bottom one is regular canadian coke the top is the seasonal passover one.

I just read this now: sugar/glucose-fructose is an allowed collective term to be used when one of them is being used. Which is a purposely misleading term as sugar is written when infact only high fructose corn syrup is present. Hfcs = glucose-fructose in canada.

[Rigby]

I only drink water, and you should too.

In a few weeks it will be exactly one year since I last took a sip of soda. I don't even miss it now.

[remixedcat]

why can't they use something like stevia?

[Arkos Reed]

The diet sodas I've tasted with acesulfame potassium leave an aftertaste similar to the old saccharine sweetener used years ago, blah.

In fact this is exactly the opposite, combining Aspartame (or sucralose/stevia) with Acesulfame K has several advantages :

- it neutralizes both sweeteners' aftertastes

- it multiplies the sweetening effect (the sum is greater than each parts)

- it chemically bonds and stabilizes them

[n_K]

In fact this is exactly the opposite, combining Aspartame (or sucralose/stevia) with Acesulfame K has several advantages :

- it neutralizes both sweeteners' aftertastes

- it multiplies the sweetening effect (the sum is greater than each parts)

- it chemically bonds and stabilizes them

Well you are one of a kind, anything I've had with more than one sweetener tastes just like metal, it is absolutely disgusting.

Not to mention what it does to your insides.

[Arkos Reed]

Well you are one of a kind, anything I've had with more than one sweetener tastes just like metal, it is absolutely disgusting.

Not to mention what it does to your insides.

It's not just me, I had noted by myself when buying sweeteners for my coffee that those containing only one sort of sweetener invariably had an aftertaste (can't stand coffee without sugar, and I drink so many, I had to find an alternative), the worse being stevia (the 1st distributed versions that is). The common denominator to the ones that had no aftertaste was the adjunction of Ace-K. I then looked around and found several articles relating the synergistic properties of this sweetener with others.

Regarding my insides, they're fine, thank you.

[threetonesun]

I just read this now: sugar/glucose-fructose is an allowed collective term to be used when one of them is being used. Which is a purposely misleading term as sugar is written when infact only high fructose corn syrup is present. Hfcs = glucose-fructose in canada.

They sell sugar'd Coke and Pepsi in the US on occasion as well. Pepsi throwback was real sugar.

Mexican Coke (in the glass bottle) is always real sugar. It's also usually pretty expensive, but it's easy enough to find. Tastes much better.

[ILikeTobacco]

The bad thing, most of these 'soft' drinks are full of chemicals anyways. Whatever happened to the days of real sugar, flavors, and carbonated water? Greed is what happened :/

God I hope they never put real sugar in diet drinks. What defeat the purpose and I wouldn't be able to drink soda anymore.

[+Eternal Tempest MVC]

Agricultural subsidies. They use it because with them, it's cheaper than sugar.

Sugar is one of the last protected agriculture from imports in to the us, that's one of the reason high cost of sugar (compared to corn syrup).

[Hum]

I get tired of all the warnings, as if all sugars are some terrible poison.

If you have healthy beliefs, and consume a limited amount of sugar, it is NOT going to make you diabetic, and kill you ! :rolleyes:

[TPreston]

Add to that fructose sucrose its pretty much the same thing.

[+Raze Subscriber²]

In fact this is exactly the opposite, combining Aspartame (or sucralose/stevia) with Acesulfame K has several advantages :

- it neutralizes both sweeteners' aftertastes

- it multiplies the sweetening effect (the sum is greater than each parts)

- it chemically bonds and stabilizes them

In fact I was sharing my personal experience, yours may vary, thank you.

[Growled Member]

um...coke is made with real sugar in Canada.......

That seals it for me. I'm moving to Canada tomorrow.

[chrisj1968]

Coca Cola uses Aspartame in its' Diet Coke line.. by feeding the ecoli virus and when it defecates, it leaves a sweet white powder. GD Searle Corp under Don Rumsfeld got it forced through the FDA as a safe sweetener.

Not all business is good. please read under

Metabolism and phenylketonuria http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame

[DocM]

why can't they use something like stevia?

They are, starting in Australia with Pepsi Next - which uses stevia. One problem with it is that in a very few people stevia has a slight bitter aftertaste. The solution for this comes from a company who makes a "bitter blocker" that can be added to the stevia.

Seeking Alpha on the stevia market and Pepsi's involvement in it

http://m.seekingalpha.com/article/918031

[HawkMan]

Coca Cola uses Aspartame in its' Diet Coke line.. by feeding the ecoli virus and when it defecates, it leaves a sweet white powder. GD Searle Corp under Don Rumsfeld got it forced through the FDA as a safe sweetener.

Not all business is good. please read under

Metabolism and phenylketonuria http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame

What does it matter how its made ?

[chrisj1968]

What does it matter how its made ?

I hope you would care. Aspartame is a neurotoxin, it is the feces of the e-coli virus a huffington post article on what aspartame is

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/aspartame-health-risks_b_668692.html