[moloko]

For real, it's not that hard. People just like to blame it on other stuff. Unless you have thyroid problems (odds are, you don't), a lifestyle change will fix the problem.

Last week I watched a co-worker eat 2 value meals from mcdonalds and a mcRib when I had a happy meal. On days I eat out I work out 2-3 times more exercise to balance it out. The portiions when you eat out are huge. I can get an entree and that is two meals. i mean really people!!!

Yes, additives are a problem. I strive to eat mainly organic foods even though they are a bit pricier. Over regulation is what causes companies to do this... they'll use whatever they can to fit into the regulations and save as much money as they possibly can doing it. Food availability is the biggest problem. Why should I be able to drive around for 20 minutes in my town and find over 20 fast food restaurants? People wouldn't be as obese if they didn't have as many opportunities to eat the garbage fast food restaurants produce.

Also, instead of eating 3 large meals a day and snacking (or not) in between those meals, eat 6 small meals. When you eat less and in greater frequency your metabolism increases, burning fat to compensate.

I heard eating smaller meal but more of them are better for you. Plus lots of fruits. I hate eating veggies so I try to eat lots of fruit, berries, poms, apples. Even if eating out you can eat sensibly. We go out often but we (family) are not over weight.

[Hum]

how about instead of fasting one day a week, you exercise a few days a week? maybe thats better advice?

Some people are just too fat to exercise. :laugh:

[compl3x]

I don't think he is suggesting you forgo exercise, fast for one day, then the next day make up for what you didn't eat the day before.

[_neutrino Veteran]

I can see not eating one day a week would save money however, it cannot be very good on your body to do it for an extended period of time.

[+Xinok Subscriber²]

"Don't eat one day a week," good advice, I eat seven days a week.

[Nothing Here]

And there's your great Science at it's best.

[+Majesticmerc MVC]

I was fast becoming over weight this year and then i watched an episode of Horizon that was about living longer by eating less. The presenter showed us a diet where for two days a week you only eat 600 calories and the rest of the week you can eat as you please.

I thought i'd give it a go and it's been amazing. I don't really feel hungry on the limited days (there's a lot you can do with 600 calories to play with) and i managed to loose a couple of stone bringing me back in to the safe weight limit i'm now spot on what a healthy man my age should be, funny thing was as soon as i reached a healthy weight, i stopped losing weight!

Apart from the weight loss, i feel awesome! I mean i feel really awesome. No bloating, no digestive issues, everything feels good. I have more energy and drive.

I'd recommend it to any one that wants to feel good. I wasn't ridiculously overweight before, a couple of stone probably, but the health benefits are amazing

Link to an article about the episode of Horizon... http://www.guardian....and-live-longer

I am following the same diet, and getting the same results (albeit I've fallen off the wagon since Christmas).

End of last month I weighed myself and found the result to be quite offensive to my ego. I exercise plenty, so it was definitely my intake that was causing the problem, so I started a Keto diet, but stopped after I realised that practically anything that tastes good has carbs in it. Then a work colleague mentioned this diet and recommended it to me.

I eat normal amounts on most days, but take a 'low-cal' day on Monday and Wednesday (no breakfast, soup for lunch, pasta for dinner). In the last six weeks, I've dropped about 7 pounds (at least according to the scales), and that's not even the best bit. I feel a lot more lively during the day, my concentration has improved, I'm not feeling the need to snack between meals, the quality of my 'digestion' has improved tenfold, and I'm sleeping more regular hours too. I don't feel the need to eat as much on the non-restricted days too!

It took a couple of weeks to adapt to the restricted days, the first week was torture denying myself food, but I was surprised how easily I adapted, I barely notice now. Fasting is definitely the way forward :).

[MillionVoltss]

Its really not that hard.

[MikeChipshop Member]

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To true.

My downfall is my body is bad at burning calories no matter how much exercise I do.

The holy-than-thou crew will always say "exercise and a good diet is the only way" but that's crap. I mountain bike everyday, I skateboard most days, I swim on a regular basis and walk the dog miles a day. My diet isn't amazing but is far from terrible. I don't eat junk food and my partner cooks decent healthy meals every day. The fact of the matter is I've hit my mid-thirties and my body just isn't as good at it's job as it used to be. For me the horizon diet absolutely suits me down to the ground :D

[MillionVoltss]

Just Asking, I'm cursed with not putting on weight. Do you eat large Meals or Lots Meals or Lots snacks. Have you tried alternative snacks such as banana's, nuts, dried fruit.

[redfish]

Ridiculous. The reason there's an "Obesity Epidemic" is because of all the completely uneccessary additives that are put into most of the food we buy -- and fast food has more additives than most.

If anything, one should strive to limit fast food intake to once or twice a month, maximum.

Sure there are people who overeat -- but there are far less overeaters than one would think.

Yea but I think that's missing the point.

Whether its overeating or eating too much fast food, people gain weight because of bad habits. Everyone knows that processed food / fast food is unhealthy for you, you're taught that in school. And eating processed food ends up being more expensive than preparing fresh food from groceries you buy at the store.

I don't know if this is the guy's point or not, but one of the reason fasting is a component of religious practice is it teaches you self-discipline, to stop you from acting habitually. Some people might get away with their habits if they're already good (Intrinsica), but in general its good not to eat habitually. That's more of the real reason for the "three meals per day" wisdom than any real nutritional concerns.

I don't know about fasting as a solution, but I bet a lot of people would be helped if they changed their *attitudes* about eating.

[MikeChipshop Member]

Just Asking, I'm cursed with not putting on weight. Do you eat large Meals or Lots Meals or Lots snacks. Have you tried alternative snacks such as banana's, nuts, dried fruit.

Nope, couple of bits of toast for breakfast, sandwich at lunch and varied dinners usually of steamed vegetables and chicken.

When I was a teenager I was as skinny as a rake, hit 21 and it all went to pot.

I have a mate like you, no matter what he eats he looks like he's never eaten, he was up my way lately and done a local pubs burger challenge no problems, all very odd.

[JaredFrost]

To true.

My downfall is my body is bad at burning calories no matter how much exercise I do.

The holy-than-thou crew will always say "exercise and a good diet is the only way" but that's crap. I mountain bike everyday, I skateboard most days, I swim on a regular basis and walk the dog miles a day. My diet isn't amazing but is far from terrible. I don't eat junk food and my partner cooks decent healthy meals every day. The fact of the matter is I've hit my mid-thirties and my body just isn't as good at it's job as it used to be. For me the horizon diet absolutely suits me down to the ground :D

If it was bad at it you could be burning them like crazy, your body might be efficient at burning them, so it requires less

Now that said, from your other post, you're still eating a lot of carbs, try cutting those down to under 100g a day.

[MikeChipshop Member]

If it was bad at it you could be burning them like crazy, your body might be efficient at burning them, so it requires less

Now that said, from your other post, you're still eating a lot of carbs, try cutting those down to under 100g a day.

I think it's due to me always being very active. My body must have learnt to hold on as much as possible.

As for cutting out carbs, it's not really needed any more. The current diet is a winner. I've got a clean bill of health from the doctor and I feel awesome!

[MillionVoltss]

Nope, couple of bits of toast for breakfast, sandwich at lunch and varied dinners usually of steamed vegetables and chicken.

When I was a teenager I was as skinny as a rake, hit 21 and it all went to pot.

I have a mate like you, no matter what he eats he looks like he's never eaten, he was up my way lately and done a local pubs burger challenge no problems, all very odd.

It does annoy me, Im quite active so that doesn't help. I've done the Eat LOADS, Eat unhealthy, Gym and protein etc and most ive put on was half a stone. So now i just eat healthy but lots, which fills me up for a while as Im aware you can still have other problems from eating junk.

[compl3x]

And there's your great Science at it's best.

Huh? Where did Frances Ashcroft claim this was a scientifically proven fact for improving health? If you read the intro at the link it goes:

Each week a global thinker from the worlds of philosophy, science, psychology or the arts is given a minute to put forward a radical, inspiring or controversial idea ? no matter how improbable ? that they believe would change the world.

Hmm, can't see anything along the lines of "This is a scientifically proven method of weight loss/improved health". Can you? You're confusing the idea a scientisit - in this case a geneticist - has with a scientifically proven theory.

I guess this is an example of your woeful ignorance at its best? :rolleyes:

[Nothing Here]

The ignorance I see are your precious scientists. And maybe yourself? HA!

[compl3x]

The ignorance I see are your precious scientists. And maybe yourself? HA!

Are you embarrased that you shot our mouth off without understanding the topic? :blush: Seems to be the case :pinch:

[Salutary7]

As far as general health and macro-nutrients go in the short-term-- you can cut out carbs or you can cut out fat, but you can't cut out protein. So consider spacing some gulps of whey protein or something to that effect when fasting.

[Knife Party]

Yeah this doesn't work, I skip eating a few days a week and i'm still a fat turd

your body is tapping then into your fat turd reserves then :D

[MikeChipshop Member]

And there's your great Science at it's best.

Can you elaborate?

[Growled Member]

Some people are just too fat to exercise. :laugh:

I've seen quite a few like that. It's sort of disgusting.

[Nothing Here]

Can you elaborate?

Was just being sarcastic.

[MikeChipshop Member]

Was just being sarcastic.

Ah, that'll be why I didn't understand. Sarcasm is the hardest thing to convey in these forums.

[Hum]

Huh? Where did Frances Ashcroft claim this was a scientifically proven fact for improving health?

There are many studies where a very limited 'calorie' intake extends lifespan.

Studies dating back to the 1930s have shown that mice and other species with a calorie-restricted diet live longer than their well-fed peers by up to 40 percent, according to ScienceDaily

Read more: http://www.livestron.../#ixzz2GCY2KDGt

These go back decades.

It's a matter of whether you can be happy with such a diet. ;)