Windows 8 Falls Behind Even the Maligned Vista


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According to Net Applications, Windows 8's online presence has actually fallen to below that of Vista's at the same length of time after release, just two months on the market. On December 22, W8's usage share was sitting at 1.6% of all Windows PCs, up from 1.2% in November. However, in the same period, Vista was sitting at 2.2%, up from around 1% the month before. This is an abysmal result and compares very poorly with Windows 7's 6%+ share after the same two months on the market. It's possible that Christmas sales may redress this balance, but it seems unlikely.

Windows 8 is rubbish and so are the drivers for it. I don't need any flaming it just my opinion.

Actually that's one of the great thinks is the driver support. The only driver I had to wait on was a final AMD Radeon HD driver and it's quite good so far.

What drivers are you having issues with?

Windows 8 is rubbish and so are the drivers for it. I don't need any flaming it just my opinion.

rubbish comment aside (that's your opinion) I have not found anything that doesn't work in 8 that worked fine in 7. you can't even compare 8's driver situation (which there hardly is any) to Vista's
It's possible that Christmas sales may redress this balance, but it seems unlikely.

I'm sure it will, I'm guessing a TON of desktops/laptops were sold for Christmas. This is just a hater article..

Windows 8 is rubbish and so are the drivers for it. I don't need any flaming it just my opinion.

Drivers are the responsibility of the hardware MFG, plus, 99% of all the Windows 7 drivers work on Windows 8 so whats the prob?

Personally, after adding Classic Shell to 8, and fixing some 'permissions' issues, I find 8 to be just fine. Of course, I exist entirely in a desktop environment. Indeed.... my task bar is that of win xp..!!

It's just a matter of knowing what I like, and then setting out to get it.

Metro... well, if I had it on a touch device, I'd give it a whirl. Just not so much on my desktop...

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Epson drivers don't fully work on it in my experince. Encounter problems with nvidia drivers crashes and so on. The image quality specially fonts are really bad in windows 8.

Nvidia driver's are 100% stable, I've been running all flavors of them since the orig Windows 8 launch drivers. You've probably got a cooling/hardware issue or something with a game.

Metro... well, if I had it on a touch device, I'd give it a whirl. Just not so much on my desktop...

Metro doesn't require a touch device and works fine with a mouse/keyboard, not really sure why so many people are having issues with that....

I have not found anything that doesn't work in 8 that worked fine in 7.

The missus' ancient HP printer :p

Works ootb p'n'p with 7, absolutely nothing would get it working in 8, installing drivers in compatibility mode, everything I could think of, eventually had to install 7 in VMWare and print from that :laugh:

Personally, after adding Classic Shell to 8, and fixing some 'permissions' issues, I find 8 to be just fine. Of course, I exist entirely in a desktop environment. Indeed.... my task bar is that of win xp..!!

It's just a matter of knowing what I like, and then setting out to get it.

Metro... well, if I had it on a touch device, I'd give it a whirl. Just not so much on my desktop...

I kind of agree with you as far as metro.. not for desktop. I am seriously thinking about moving to Imac as my next purchase.

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Metro doesn't require a touch device and works fine with a mouse/keyboard, not really sure why so many people are having issues with that....

I'd say many parts of the start screen especially works a lot better with a mouse and keyboard.

Personally, I hit WinKey, type what I want and get what I want.

E.g.

WinKey, type DNS, hit enter, I get a DNS console.

WinKey, type powershell ise, hit enter, I get a Powershell ISE.

WinKey, type steam, hit enter and I get my games.

It's fantastic.

Never before has Windows listened to me.

How people cannot want this? I don't know.

Metro doesn't require a touch device and works fine with a mouse/keyboard, not really sure why so many people are having issues with that....

While it may well be usable with a mouse and keyboard, it was designed for touch.

The missus' ancient HP printer :p

Works ootb p'n'p with 7, absolutely nothing would get it working in 8, installing drivers in compatibility mode, everything I could think of, eventually had to install 7 in VMWare and print from that :laugh:

haha, how old we talkin? I'd have to guess at least Windows 2000 old. I've got an old HP Photosmart 2610 and it still works great under Windows 8

so many things wrong with this assesement

1. the data they used for windows 8 doesnt include the critical christmas shopping days

2.there are probably double the number of online users now since vista, so a percent now could be worth 2 or more then

3. windows 8 has apps now, so using netflix windows 8 app for example would not give them credit in these stats.

4.some of these sites netapplications tracks could have been popular in the past,and are now irrelevant.

nice try, but using vague,incomplete and irrelevant data to spread fud is embarassing. its like telling someone the sky is blue and they try so hard to convince you that it is in fact green.

microsoft already gave sales figures for one month. Michael dell has told everyone don't believe the stuff you read on the internet, because windows 8 is in high demand with consumers and corporations.

acer has backtracked on their earlier comments,and now said their future lies with windows 8 only.

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haha, how old we talkin? I'd have to guess at least Windows 2000 old. I've got an old HP Photosmart 2610 and it still works great under Windows 8

Almost but not quite, she got it with an old Win XP White Tin Tower with matching HUGE white flatbed scanner, I think celeron 600MHz CPU with 256MB RAM etc etc :laugh:

Almost but not quite, she got it with an old Win XP White Tin Tower with matching HUGE white flatbed scanner, I think celeron 600MHz CPU with 256MB RAM etc etc :laugh:

nice, you gotta admit though, going for 10/11 years without compatibility problems is pretty impressive :laugh:
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Nvidia driver's are 100% stable, I've been running all flavors of them since the orig Windows 8 launch drivers. You've probably got a cooling/hardware issue or something with a game.

Metro doesn't require a touch device and works fine with a mouse/keyboard, not really sure why so many people are having issues with that....

Yeah, Metro is fine. I actually quite like it from a UI perspective.

The problem though is in the details, it's still incomplete, you still need a fall back to the regular desktop. Really what it's like is when Windows came out and you had to do some things still in DOS. Interestingly, there was quite a bit of resistance to Windows back then too.

What my biggest issue with Windows 8 and Metro is Microsoft always botches rolling out, well, everything, outside the US, and since I'm in Canada I get an inferior Windows 8 experience (or Windows Phone, or Xbox, or etc)

nice, you gotta admit though, going for 10/11 years without compatibility problems is pretty impressive :laugh:

Certainly is, I was surprised when it worked with 7 tbh :rofl:

Actually, I was surprised a printer that old still worked at all !

Maybe it's me, but using percentage as a benchmark isn't telling the whole picture. Windows Vista was released in January 2007 - almost 5 years ago, and Windows 7 was 3 years ago. I am actually more interested in the total number of Windows version X vs. total of PC running windows during that time. This is also how Apple uses percentages to exploit statistics.

Windows Vista / Total PC running Windows in 2007

Windows 7 / Total PC running Windows in 2010

Windows 8 / Total PC running Windows in 2013

so many things wrong with this assesement

1. the data they used for windows 8 doesnt include the critical christmas shopping days

2.there are probably double the number of online users now since vista, so a percent now could be worth 2 or more then

3. windows 8 has apps now, so using netflix windows 8 app for example would not give them credit in these stats.

4.some of these sites netapplications tracks could have been popular in the past,and are now irrelevant.

nice try, but using vague,incomplete and irrelevant data to spread fud is embarassing. its like telling someone the sky is blue and they try so hard to convince you that it is in fact green.

microsoft already gave sales figures for one month. Michael dell has told everyone don't believe the stuff you read on the internet, because windows 8 is in high demand with consumers and corporations.

acer has backtracked on their earlier comments,and now said their future lies with windows 8 only.

Yeah this article is waaay outdated.

I won't say that Windows 8 is popular with corporations. Going to have to wait until Windows 9 to make that call.

I will, however say that consumers don't care. And I don't mean that in a bad way. They don't care that it's 'Windows 8', they just care that it's Windows. They get it with a new PC. They think it's a new, shiny, cheap upgrade ($40 special). They think the tablet idea is neat and my dad, who is a complete non-techie, was asking me about the Surface today. Anyone who wants to make predictions about Windows 8's success is an advanced user, who is probably not the target audience for Windows 8 anyway.

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