Windows 8 Falls Behind Even the Maligned Vista

[Skin]

And this is another example of someone who hasn't used 8, and comes with wild and outright wrong claims. another one of the popular win 8 myths. this one keeps being repetaed all over in various forms. and always completely wrong.

I think Apple employees are winning the hype and disinformation game. :woot:

[neuroticdave]

My new laptop came with Windows 8. It didn't last very long very I downgraded it to Windows 7. Sorry, not into the whole Windows 8 thing. I get what they are trying to do, but it is not my cup of tea.

[Skin]

I've read that PC sales fell 21% last quarter. The main reason is mobile and Android and iOS rules (so far) in that arena. So, as most PC makers were hoping that Windows 8 would revive PC sales, Windows 8 has been a failure so far.

you mean companies thought that the wave and tide of turning to mobile devices would cease when a new windows OS was offered.... they deserve to fail for that. Those companies should have made a ready to go device that was mobile and offered the win8 experience like the ipad does with the iOS.

win 8 has a ton of great features and is of course a huge step in the right and future direction, but people hate change, and on top of that, folks will will hold off purely based on the negative press and word that has been spread by rival companies and people that hate change and spent 30 minutes on it, and decided it was too hard, or some such nonsense.

[Dot Matrix]

BREAKSCLUSIVE: No name brand PC maker admits to no sales, then admits to not even having the one device that's getting them the slimmest of press time on the market.

Yup. Makes perfect sense. We'll blame Microsoft.

More at 10.

[Nashy]

Do we blame Windows 8 for the complete lack of grammar and spelling in this entire thread?

Seriously, I don't like Windows 8, but the bashing has to stop. These numbers don't take into account the increased market share from other companies since the horrors of Vista.

[linsook]

BREAKSCLUSIVE: No name brand PC maker admits to no sales, then admits to not even having the one device that's getting them the slimmest of press time on the market.

Yup. Makes perfect sense. We'll blame Microsoft.

More at 10.

you never heard of fujitsu or fujitsu-siemens?

[farmeunit]

Actually that's one of the great thinks is the driver support. The only driver I had to wait on was a final AMD Radeon HD driver and it's quite good so far.

What drivers are you having issues with?

I've had problems with wireless cards and video, mainly, but also sound.. The wireless were older G USB sticks. Couldn't get them to work at all. The video was a Core2 HP laptop with on board video if I remember right.

When Vista came out, I had issues with sound that worked fine in XP. Same with on-board LAN on same machine.

[Luc2k]

you never heard of fujitsu or fujitsu-siemens?

He probably lives under a rectangular rock painted like the start screen.

[HawkMan]

Fujitsu has a very low marketshare on the PC market especially compared to the big ones like Dell, HP, Acer and even Asus and Toshiba. I won't say much for their quality in the computer department either. They make good heat pumps though...

[cork1958]

It all about that totally ignorant start window!!

Anybody that get's to see Windows 8 before they buy it, or a new computer, will look at that mess and say WTF!!

What's with that totally ignorant trick of putting the cursor in the VERY TOP right hand corner to get that slide thing to pop out, or that equally as ignorant trick of the mouse in the lower left hand corner?

Windows 8 works and all, but it seems to be big mess, IMO.

Then there's the issue of the way programs shut down, that also seems as dumb as s**t to me!!

Personally,

I hope Windows 8 flops even worse than Vista did and maybe MS will go back to doing things the way people are used to!! The only thing they seem to want to do with a new OS is add eye candy and stupidity!!

[HawkMan]

It all about that totally ignorant start window!!

Anybody that get's to see Windows 8 before they buy it, or a new computer, will look at that mess and say WTF!!

Meanwhile I've shown it to a lot of people at the store and common to them all, they buy windows 8 over the windows 7 computer most of them where planning on.

[TheLegendOfMart]

Fujitsu has a very low marketshare on the PC market especially compared to the big ones like Dell, HP, Acer and even Asus and Toshiba. I won't say much for their quality in the computer department either. They make good heat pumps though...

Consumer market maybe, I support a 5 story office block that just bought a load of Fujitsu-Siemens workstations. I still support an office full of P4 machines that are still going strong.

BREAKSCLUSIVE: No name brand PC maker admits to no sales, then admits to not even having the one device that's getting them the slimmest of press time on the market.

Yup. Makes perfect sense. We'll blame Microsoft.

More at 10.

Microsoft apologist has no clue what hes talking about, more at 10.

[Arceles]

Guys, Fujitsu Siemens is like Lenovo for Germany, but the Lenovo Bussiness Brand, they are quite powerfull...

[Detection]

Oh? How does it connect to the computer, and is it an all-in-one?

All-in-ones (from HP or anyone else) I generally despise on principle.

I have a standard HP Deskjet 940C that dates back to Windows XP (in fact, it predates Service Pack 2) that has worked with every flavor of Windows (in fact, every OS with the exception of Android) since. (That includes Windows 8 BTW.)

If you are relying on drivers from HP, don't - unless you need particular support for a specific feature, the generic Windows printer drivers are FAR better behaved - regardless of model OR brand of printer. (Not picking on HP, as i have recommended HP inkjet printers since 2006.)

USB and no, its just a bog standard printer about the size of a big loaf of bread, its not here atm so can't remember the exact model, I`ll find out though

Just kept saying "Driver not installed" X

[REM2000]

Fujitsu has a very low marketshare on the PC market especially compared to the big ones like Dell, HP, Acer and even Asus and Toshiba. I won't say much for their quality in the computer department either. They make good heat pumps though...

Fujitsu is big here in the UK business scene, it's pretty much HP, dell, fujitsu and lenovo.

[MikeChipshop Member]

This thread outlines why i'm sometimes ashamed to be a member on Neowin and why i took such a long break from posting here.

Babies on both sides competing on how far they can throw their toys out of the pram. Grow up for god's sake, your supposed to be adults.

[BajiRav]

you never heard of fujitsu or fujitsu-siemens?

I've heard of them but never seen one in the wild - using the same metric that was applied to declare WP a failure. ;) their presence in consumer market is near zero in the two markets I know of.

Consumer market maybe, I support a 5 story office block that just bought a load of Fujitsu-Siemens workstations. I still support an office full of P4 machines that are still going strong.

Microsoft apologist has no clue what hes talking about, more at 10.

So a primarily enterprise vendor declaring winners on the consumer front - that makes perfect sense. Enterprises were not going to get Windows 8 anyway, metro or not. I was told by our IT that they had no budget for Win8, having just finished Win7. This has nothing to do with metro, start screen or other crap spewed by the whineboys.

[Rickkins]

Indeed, this happens every time. Anytime anyone posts anything that can even remotely be construed as unflattering to win8, the same cast of characters come in and start their little flame war with the obvious aim of getting the thread locked.

The only thing worse than this infantile behavior, is that the staff seems to support it by dutifully locking the threads almost on cue, instead of recognizing that behavior and dealing with it appropriately....

[Detection]

Indeed, this happens every time. Anytime anyone posts anything that can even remotely be construed as unflattering to win8, the same cast of characters come in and start their little flame war with the obvious aim of getting the thread locked.

The only thing worse than this infantile behavior, is that the staff seems to support it by dutifully locking the threads almost on cue, instead of recognizing that behavior and dealing with it appropriately....

I've noticed similar things when senior members who should know better decide to turn a completely normal thread into a religious debate and then leave the thread with a great big trollface grin, for no reason other than to get it locked, its blatantly obvious and childish

Gets annoying I agree

[Stoffel]

Indeed, this happens every time. Anytime anyone posts anything that can even remotely be construed as unflattering to win8, the same cast of characters come in and start their little flame war with the obvious aim of getting the thread locked.

The only thing worse than this infantile behavior, is that the staff seems to support it by dutifully locking the threads almost on cue, instead of recognizing that behavior and dealing with it appropriately....

Pot, kettle, comes to mind when I read this post

[+Anarkii Subscriber²]

I would like to see Microsoft just acknowledge its failure. It's painfully obvious to everyone how horrible it is.

I thought nothing could be worse then Vista and ME, but 8 proves us all wrong.

[Stoffel]

I would like to see Microsoft just acknowledge its failure. It's painfully obvious to everyone how horrible it is.

I thought nothing could be worse then Vista and ME, but 8 proves us all wrong.

How can you call Win8 a failure after being out for just 2 months and most PC makers still have to release the bulk of their new Win8 hardware?

Why don't we give it a couple more months before we declare it anything

[MikeChipshop Member]

Indeed, this happens every time. Anytime anyone posts anything that can even remotely be construed as unflattering to win8, the same cast of characters come in and start their little flame war with the obvious aim of getting the thread locked.

The only thing worse than this infantile behavior, is that the staff seems to support it by dutifully locking the threads almost on cue, instead of recognizing that behavior and dealing with it appropriately....

Please be aware that my post was aimed at you as well.

[strotee]

Why don't we give it a couple more months before we declare it anything

I agree. Despite my few jab postings I have made about Win 8, I know we don't know for certain what the future holds. Are we seeing another Vista in the sense that Win 9 will be what Win 8 should have been from the start, but couldn't be as amazing if Win 8 never paved the original way? Either way, I've already bought licenses for Start8/StartIsBack, just in case I make the switch.

[Julius Caro]

And this is another example of someone who hasn't used 8, and comes with wild and outright wrong claims. another one of the popular win 8 myths. this one keeps being repetaed all over in various forms. and always completely wrong.

how is he completely wrong? I just tried it and indeed. If I type powershell, i only get one result. whatever you type AFTER powershell, gets passed as a command. so if you type "powershell ISE", it will launch regular powershell and run ISE from it.