Did Your Concerns About Moving From Android Go Away?


Recommended Posts

So I've been using Android for the past few years. It's all right, nothing major to shout about. I am rooted but run the stock rom; only needed root for a couple of apps.

A friend of mine runs Windows 7.whatever on his HTC Mozart and hates it. He's found he can't get any of the apps he wants and when he can, they are a bit rubbish. However I am not put off as there are significant differences between WP7 and WP8.

Did you have any worries and were they blown away after using WP8?

I don't own an Android device but my sister does and I've used her phone long enough to make an informed decision. I made the jump to WP8 from a low-end BlackBerry device so the bulk of my smartphone experience has been limited. With that said, I honestly think WP8 is great for you if apps aren't a concern. I personally don't use a lot of apps so I'm happy with the OS. I haven't used a WP7 device and from what I've read, Microsoft has made a lot of improvements since the release of WP7 in 2010.

I have no major worries with WP8. At the moment, my only concern is the inability to install apps on a SD card. I just got my HTC 8S yesterday and it has 4 GB of internal storage. It's low, but it also has a microSD slot. If I could install apps on that, then I'll be very happy.

Your best bet is to go into a store and play around with a WP8 device. If you like it, then buy it. (Y)

  • Like 1

The lack of apps on WP is still hard to swallow. Even with the apps that are available, many of them do not match up with the quality and features of their Android and iOS counterparts. I'm still waiting for a proper implementation of Facebook Messenger that matches what Android/iOS offers. Some vital regional apps are still missing. No Pocket, no Flipboard, no Chrome/Opera/Firefox, no Temple Run, no "proper" XDA app that allows posting, no codecs for unsupported audio/video formats. The list goes on. On the other hand, I can't find a credible alternative to HERE Drive for Android, and Mehdoh is the best Twitter client I've ever used but is WP-only. But as a whole, the app situation for WP is still pretty bad compared to the competition.

If you don't care about apps, however, the OS itself is excellent. It beats iOS for offering a customizable start screen, and it really trounces Android at performance and stability, especially on low-end hardware. The problem is that you have a fast and reliable OS, but one that is annoyingly gimped functionality-wise. WP has the potential to become great, but at this point in time I definitely regret switching over to it.

So I've been using Android for the past few years. It's all right, nothing major to shout about. I am rooted but run the stock rom; only needed root for a couple of apps.

A friend of mine runs Windows 7.whatever on his HTC Mozart and hates it. He's found he can't get any of the apps he wants and when he can, they are a bit rubbish. However I am not put off as there are significant differences between WP7 and WP8.

Did you have any worries and were they blown away after using WP8?

Unless your friend is looking for some funky apps, most common apps are available on WP7 (now at 7.8). I have been a WP7 user from the start (still on 7.8) and after the Mango update, I don't recall ever missing any critical app (I switched from iOS).

The lack of apps on WP is still hard to swallow. Even with the apps that are available, many of them do not match up with the quality and features of their Android and iOS counterparts. I'm still waiting for a proper implementation of Facebook Messenger that matches what Android/iOS offers. Some vital regional apps are still missing. No Pocket, no Flipboard, no Chrome/Opera/Firefox, no Temple Run, no "proper" XDA app that allows posting, no codecs for unsupported audio/video formats. The list goes on. On the other hand, I can't find a credible alternative to HERE Drive for Android, and Mehdoh is the best Twitter client I've ever used but is WP-only. But as a whole, the app situation for WP is still pretty bad compared to the competition.

If you don't care about apps, however, the OS itself is excellent. It beats iOS for offering a customizable start screen, and it really trounces Android at performance and stability, especially on low-end hardware. The problem is that you have a fast and reliable OS, but one that is annoyingly gimped functionality-wise. WP has the potential to become great, but at this point in time I definitely regret switching over to it.

Build in facebook messaging doesn't do it for you?

The lack of apps on WP is still hard to swallow. Even with the apps that are available, many of them do not match up with the quality and features of their Android and iOS counterparts. I'm still waiting for a proper implementation of Facebook Messenger that matches what Android/iOS offers. Some vital regional apps are still missing. No Pocket, no Flipboard, no Chrome/Opera/Firefox, no Temple Run, no "proper" XDA app that allows posting, no codecs for unsupported audio/video formats. The list goes on. On the other hand, I can't find a credible alternative to HERE Drive for Android, and Mehdoh is the best Twitter client I've ever used but is WP-only. But as a whole, the app situation for WP is still pretty bad compared to the competition.

If you don't care about apps, however, the OS itself is excellent. It beats iOS for offering a customizable start screen, and it really trounces Android at performance and stability, especially on low-end hardware. The problem is that you have a fast and reliable OS, but one that is annoyingly gimped functionality-wise. WP has the potential to become great, but at this point in time I definitely regret switching over to it.

I guess it would be if you're an app junkie but even if you aren't, the Windows Phone store could use some more variety. The quality of the apps I've used so far have been great. I'll like an app even more if it's UI is as close as possible to the native UI of the OS. Some apps have come "close enough" but I still enjoy using them (e.g. Kik). As for Facebook Messenger, it's integrated with the built-in messaging app. And it's easy to switch between SMS and Facebook chat (see here). A separate app for Facebook chat isn't necessary.

I don't know about the apps you mentioned because I don't use them and I've never heard of them (except for the browsers). However, I do know that Nokia recently rebranded their exclusive WP8 apps and made them available to non-Nokia WP8 devices (see here).

Also, WhatsApp for WP8 received a major update as well as new features. I hope Kik gets a similar update too.

I'm not an 'Apps' person, I only got android for 2 reasons, 1 I didn't like the 800 and 900 Lumias (so I'll admit to being a nokia fanboy, whatever) and 2 Hell would freeze over before I would consider IOS as my smartphone choice, please note, this is personal preference, and not in any way a slamming statement about apple products.

I'll leave Android when Symbian makes a comeback.

As for Facebook Messenger, it's integrated with the built-in messaging app. And it's easy to switch between SMS and Facebook chat (see here). A separate app for Facebook chat isn't necessary.

I know about the feature. It doesn't support attachments, "viewed" timestamps, sending your location or viewing the other person's, or chatting with multiple contacts. The most annoying part is that it doesn't sync all your Facebook messages, making for very disjointed chatlogs. If all you do is chat with one contact at a time and nothing else, then yes, a separate app isn't necessary, anything more and WP falls short.

iOS: Best app store but OS hugely restricted. No torrenting.

Andriod: Somewhat poor app store with watered down apps quality wise. But can do anything under the sun in the OS even though its laggy. Project butter my a$$.

WP8: Worst app store of the three. OS experience is the smoothest but is still very annoying with huge learning curve.

I have found myself comfortable with Android even though I cringe everytime my Note2 stutters.

Concerns about WP8 are not going anywhere for atleast 2 years or till the platform matures.

I know about the feature. It doesn't support attachments, "viewed" timestamps, sending your location or viewing the other person's, or chatting with multiple contacts. The most annoying part is that it doesn't sync all your Facebook messages, making for very disjointed chatlogs. If all you do is chat with one contact at a time and nothing else, then yes, a separate app isn't necessary, anything more and WP falls short.

You're right. You also can't send pictures or record your voice. Now I see the use of a dedicated Facebook messaging app.

  • 1 month later...

Having used every version of Windows Phone from 7.0 onwards I haven't had any concerns about switching from Android, in fact I've been excited to see the changes Microsoft have made to the platform since release.

iOS: Best app store but OS hugely restricted. No torrenting.

Andriod: Somewhat poor app store with watered down apps quality wise. But can do anything under the sun in the OS even though its laggy. Project butter my a$$.

WP8: Worst app store of the three. OS experience is the smoothest but is still very annoying with huge learning curve.

I have found myself comfortable with Android even though I cringe everytime my Note2 stutters.

Concerns about WP8 are not going anywhere for atleast 2 years or till the platform matures.

Don't know where you're getting these statements from. iOS is easy as to pirate/torrent apps and maybe you should try a phone that's not bogged down with a 3rd party UI before saying project butter is bad.

I have seen just as many pirated iOS apps on torrents as I have seen Android. And there is a new Chinese site that allows pirated apps to be installed on iOS without jailbreaking.

I meant you can't use torrent app inside iOS to download anything directly to an iOS device.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Posts

    • Microsoft finally admits its default Windows 11 25H2, 24H2 action broke key legacy component by Sayan Sen Microsoft last week released Windows 11 KB5094126 and KB5093998 as the latest Patch Tuesday updates. Following that the company also published the accompanying dynamic updates under KB5094149, KB5095971, and KB5094156. So far the company has acknowledged two known issues that have popped up after the release which include bugged-out Office apps as well as the Recycle Bin; though there could be more at play too. Speaking of bugs and issues, Microsoft seems to have finally acknowledged a problem that probably has been around for close to a year. That's because back in July of 2025 the company made a default change to the latest Windows 11 versions, wherein it switched to JScript9Legacy on Windows 11 24H2 and later releases. Hence following the release of version 25H2 in October 2025, JScript9Legacy also remained default-enabled. As a result there has been a compatibility issue ever since then. For those wondering, by switching to JScript9Legacy Microsoft intended to improve the security of modern Windows PCs by reducing vulnerabilities tied to legacy scripting like cross-site scripting (XSS), among others. XSS exploits can allow cyber-attackers to attach malicious code onto legitimate websites and use them to execute the code when a potential victim loads such a website. Hence the new JScript9Legacy engine enforced stricter execution policies and improved object handling, which should help mitigate such attacks. Microsoft today has published a new support article detailing the problem. Neowin spotted it while browsing. The company says that JScript global definitions and execution context may fail to persist across scripts, potentially breaking older dependent apps and web-based components that relied on this legacy behavior. In the article Microsoft has confirmed that the issue stems from its move away from the older jscript9.dll engine in favor of jscript9legacy.dll. As mentioned above, while the newer engine was designed to address vulnerabilities and strengthen security it also changes how JScript handles execution context. As a result functions and definitions loaded by one script could no longer remain available to subsequent scripts once execution ended. The company notes that some applications worked correctly on earlier Windows versions because the older JScript engine automatically retained global definitions and execution state between scripts. Under the newer model though that behavior is disabled by default causing certain legacy workloads and polyfill-dependent scripts to fail. Microsoft says it addressed the problem via the KB5077241 update though the fix had not been enabled automatically in the following updates. As such admins must explicitly turn on persistent JScript execution context using a Registry setting that the tech giant shared today. The configuration can be applied to individual processes or system-wide through the FEATURE_ENABLE_PERSISTENCE registry key. The steps have been outlined below: Run the following command to create the feature control registry key: reg add "HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main\FeatureControl\FEATURE_ENABLE_PERSISTENCE" Under this key, create a new DWORD (32-bit) value. Configure the value as follows: To enable persistence for specific processes only: Set the value to 1 for each target process name. To enable persistence for all processes: Add * as the key name and set its value to 1. You can find the official support article here on Microsoft's website.
    • The possibility that milk gathers back into a glass implies that gravity can be 'reversed'.
    • VidCoder 12.20 by Razvan Serea  VidCoder is a DVD/Blu-ray ripping and video transcoding application for Windows. It uses HandBrake as its encoding engine. Calling directly into the HandBrake library gives it a more rich UI than the official HandBrake Windows GUI. VidCoder can rip DVDs but does not defeat the CSS encryption found in most commercial DVDs. You’ll need the NET 8 Desktop Runtime. If you don’t have it, VidCoder will prompt you to download and install it. The Portable version is self-contained and does not require any .NET Runtime to be installed. You do not need to install HandBrake for VidCoder to work. Feature list: Multi-threaded MP4, MKV containers Completely integrated encoding pipeline: everything is in one process and no huge intermediate temporary files H.264, H.265, MPEG-4, MPEG-2, VP8, Theora video Hardware-accelerated encoding with AMD VCE, Nvidia NVENC and Intel QuickSync AAC, MP3, Vorbis, AC3, FLAC audio encoding and AAC/AC3/MP3/DTS/DTS-HD passthrough Target bitrate, size or quality for video 2-pass encoding Decomb, detelecine, deinterlace, rotate, reflect, chroma smooth, colorspace filters Powerful batch encoding with simultaneous encodes Customizable Pickers to automatically pick audio and subtitle tracks, destination, titles and more Instant source previews Creates small encoded preview clips Pause, resume encoding VidCoder 12.20 changes: Updated HandBrake core to 1.11.2. Download: VidCoder 12.20 | 47.0 MB (Open Source) Download: Portable VidCoder 12.19 | 89.3 MB Link: VidCoder Home Page | Github | Screenshot Get alerted to all of our Software updates on Twitter at @NeowinSoftware
    • Too soon, I'm still not over this death!
  • Recent Achievements

    • Week One Done
      Jordan Smith earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Reacting Well
      BizSAR earned a badge
      Reacting Well
    • First Post
      AndreaB earned a badge
      First Post
    • Week One Done
      Huge Trailer earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Week One Done
      Classifyskilleducation earned a badge
      Week One Done
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      592
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      185
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      76
    4. 4
      Michael Scrip
      73
    5. 5
      Steven P.
      66
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!