new_duxie Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 mainly robocopy xp, and clean spooler (cleansp) out of the windows 2003 RESKIT they're very handy, haven't had a real chance to use anything else but the msi for the reskit is relatively small so i don't think it would be a biggie for the whole kit to be included. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1389640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
conductor Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 I have used used autopatcher and it works great on both of my systems, some additions I would wish to see are- 1) In the menu where the user picks updates to install every update or tweak should have an enable/disable option instead of the box with the check mark, this would make removing unwated twearks or patches much easier. 2) It could be great if there would be more registry tweaks concerning the system for faster loading or what not, similar to what programs such as customizexp do, I doubt these speed tweaks work though. 3)Maybe include a drivers section for the latest drivers for popular video or sound cards. 4)I was thinking also if its a possibility to take some of the free components from win2k3 systems which are higher versions then in windows XP such as IIS6.0. 5)I know you will be including an auto registry scan function similar to windows update but wanted to see if any of the anti-worm updates from the update CD or the special security lockdown features will be included as well. As for the freewares they were pretty much covered, keep up the good work. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1390230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptiPlex Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 I have used used autopatcher and it works great on both of my systems, some additions I would wish to see are-1) In the menu where the user picks updates to install every update or tweak should have an enable/disable option instead of the box with the check mark, this would make removing unwated twearks or patches much easier. 2) It could be great if there would be more registry tweaks concerning the system for faster loading or what not, similar to what programs such as customizexp do, I doubt these speed tweaks work though. 3)Maybe include a drivers section for the latest drivers for popular video or sound cards. 4)I was thinking also if its a possibility to take some of the free components from win2k3 systems which are higher versions then in windows XP such as IIS6.0. 5)I know you will be including an auto registry scan function similar to windows update but wanted to see if any of the anti-worm updates from the update CD or the special security lockdown features will be included as well. As for the freewares they were pretty much covered, keep up the good work. 3) already decided as No :ninja:4) what if XP crashes!!11111313 OMFG WTF LOL! :o Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1390247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
conductor Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Actually I have read this on the Mircorsoft website some time ago that features on win2k3 that are supoposedly free for distribution are fully compatible on windows XP, if you install IIS6.0 on top of 5.1 or whatever, I do not think Xp will crash, but that is just an opinion. P.S. yea thats too bad about the drivers, but oh well... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1390277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aitf311 Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 P.S. yea thats too bad about the drivers, but oh well... i think you guys should include support for like the top 10 things like nvidia, via sound..stuff like that..but not include the actual files in there....know what i mean? like make a readme with instructions how to do this, drivers would be a total plus to have....think about it..you have this to install all the applications and updates, why not add driver support so when a user formats and installs windows with this, EVERYTHING is done and ready to go Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1390297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpugeniusmv Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 i think you guys should include support for like the top 10 things like nvidia, via sound..stuff like that..but not include the actual files in there....know what i mean? like make a readme with instructions how to do this, drivers would be a total plus to have....think about it..you have this to install all the applications and updates, why not add driver support so when a user formats and installs windows with this, EVERYTHING is done and ready to go it is supported...right here: https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=117059 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1390306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlishFun Veteran Posted November 21, 2003 Author Veteran Share Posted November 21, 2003 I have used used autopatcher and it works great on both of my systems, some additions I would wish to see are-1) In the menu where the user picks updates to install every update or tweak should have an enable/disable option instead of the box with the check mark, this would make removing unwated twearks or patches much easier. 2) It could be great if there would be more registry tweaks concerning the system for faster loading or what not, similar to what programs such as customizexp do, I doubt these speed tweaks work though. 3)Maybe include a drivers section for the latest drivers for popular video or sound cards. 4)I was thinking also if its a possibility to take some of the free components from win2k3 systems which are higher versions then in windows XP such as IIS6.0. 5)I know you will be including an auto registry scan function similar to windows update but wanted to see if any of the anti-worm updates from the update CD or the special security lockdown features will be included as well. As for the freewares they were pretty much covered, keep up the good work. First off, welcome! :D Second, let's go through your suggestions: 1) I guess I don't understand what you're saying, you can choose to install or not and install whatever updates you want. Maybe I need to get a little more explanation on this one. 2) I'm not going to install specific Memory and other speed tweaks like that, because every system is different and if set wrong, it can potentially mess up the install. 3) If there weren't so many companies out there, I probably would. But I can think of 4 different Video Drivers alone I'd need (nVidia, ATI, Intel, and VIA). That's just video drivers. If I put in all the drivers the patcher would be close to 300 MBs I'm sure. haha But we will have instructions on how to add your own drivers to the package, so it's not all bad. :) 4) Hmmm... I'd have to know 100% that there would be no problems, and that's a lot to ask. I don't think I'd do that, but it's a good thought. 5) If I can figure out how to enable them, then they'll be in there. :) Well that's all of them. Be sure to keep givin' suggestions, the more the better!! @OptiPlex - OMG!!1 LOLZ!!!1! :laugh: @aitf311 - I will include the specific instructions on how to install the drivers (I now have a Documentation Section in the Dec Update, it will be full of stuff like that! (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1390312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aitf311 Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 it is supported...right here: https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=117059 what are you talking about? that has about nothing to do with my post...im talking about documented support on the switches and everything shipped with a readme on how to do it and what files to use....not an unofficial batch file thread...FlishFun: will your new document on the drivers have links and switches needed? i really think if you could get this going it would bring autopatcher to a new level....did you ever check out how 'barts pe loader' handles addons like this?? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1390314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlishFun Veteran Posted November 21, 2003 Author Veteran Share Posted November 21, 2003 FlishFun: will your new document on the drivers have links and switches needed? i really think if you could get this going it would bring autopatcher to a new level....did you ever check out how 'barts pe loader' handles addons like this?? Yes, it will include links, switches, and full instructions for most common drivers (nVidia, VIA, ATI, Creative, etc) so that you may include them. As I said, in the AutoPatcher folder there will now be a "Documentation" folder that will contain that and more. :) As far as Bart's PE Loader, no, I haven't checked that out yet (been kinda busy... lol). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1390325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
conductor Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 To clarify my wish number 1 about choosing the updates. Right now when the menu pops up with the updates and tweaks there are checkboxes next to every tweak so you can pick what you would want to install. However there is no real esay way to remove them. What i suggest is eliminate the chekboxes. Instead next to every tweak or patch put a little scroll down menu with the oprtions enabled/disabled That way every time somebody wants to update their autopatcher installation they can go to this menu choose what to enable/disable and the program correspondingly adds or removes any of the tweaks/patches. Oh yea this is similar to what office installation ahve when you press update. Also this will eliminate the need for the dialog window whether the autopatcher should uncheck already installed items. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1390351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimSage Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 maybe a way to use auto patcher with this neat tool http://berns.cae.wisc.edu/pages/wincdman.asp so that it will create the ISO with all the updates for you. I would like to also add my vote for startup control panel Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1390358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert McClelland Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 How about Ad-ware program be added too. :)and kx sound drivers into the package :)I would had ask Eugene himself to see if ok put into autoupdater :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1390537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimSage Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 there are two ways to add the drivers I guess. If it requires an install you could do it though here but if you goto http://www.<< spam >>/unattended/xp/index.htm they tell you how to do it too. edit: well the place is considered spam here so I guess I cant post the link.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1390559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaladis Veteran Posted November 21, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 21, 2003 /me votes for Ad-aware too, Personal Edition v6 build 181 :D /Raptor Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1391140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aitf311 Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Download the adaware setup....and put it in Adaware folder in CustomProgFiles (make sure its named aaw6.exe) Here is the dat code: [Entry] Name=Adaware Default=True AutoExpand=True Description=Installs IT! UniqueID=Adaware Parent=Custom Target=Adaware.bat TargetNoBackup=Adaware.bat WebLink= Here is the bat file AdAware.bat Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1391337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlishFun Veteran Posted November 21, 2003 Author Veteran Share Posted November 21, 2003 Download the adaware setup....and put it in Adaware folder in CustomProgFiles (make sure its named aaw6.exe)Here is the dat code: [Entry] Name=Adaware Default=True AutoExpand=True Description=Installs IT! UniqueID=Adaware Parent=Custom Target=Adaware.bat TargetNoBackup=Adaware.bat WebLink= Here is the bat file Hey man, thanks for the hookup on the bat file! (Y) Keep up the good work! :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1391389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaladis Veteran Posted November 21, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 21, 2003 oh and a sidenote to EVERYONE: UniqueID is not just for the database file the entry is in... AutoPatcher 'merges' all entries in the following order: Main Database Bonus Database Custom Database So you cant use the ID "SOMETHING" in two different database files... its kinda like a global uniqueID... /Raptor Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1391635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
conductor Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 (edited) Well I hope I clarified my idea of the menu for FlishFun in my last post. It would also be nice to have like the options to remove additional windows components different ones from the add/remove programs in windows such as frontpage98, that xerox crap or communication junk such as hyper terminal. Deleted double post - nw|raptor Edited November 21, 2003 by nw|raptor Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1392652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlishFun Veteran Posted November 21, 2003 Author Veteran Share Posted November 21, 2003 Well I hope I clarified my idea of the menu for FlishFun in my last post.It would also be nice to have like the options to remove additional windows components different ones from the add/remove programs in windows such as frontpage98, that xerox crap or communication junk such as hyper terminal. You did, but I don't believe we can do it. The way it's coded, it's just a treeview menu. You can't enable/disable the programs from it any more that checking or unchecking the boxes. As far as removing other components, I may add some extra "uninstall" things to the AP (like I did with deleteing the built in screensavers and such)... we'll see. That's a good idea. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1392685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaladis Veteran Posted November 21, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 21, 2003 "communication junk such as hyper terminal", well hyperterminal is not junk for everyone... in my case, its quite handy tool, since thats the best way to configure my ISDN device... Now, about the whole idea, i dunno if jason will be able to think of something... i think he will (lol, he always does!) but i cant be sure... /Raptor Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1392690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlishFun Veteran Posted November 21, 2003 Author Veteran Share Posted November 21, 2003 "communication junk such as hyper terminal", well hyperterminal is not junk for everyone... in my case, its quite handy tool, since thats the best way to configure my ISDN device...Now, about the whole idea, i dunno if jason will be able to think of something... i think he will (lol, he always does!) but i cant be sure... /Raptor Yeah, I have an idea or two about it. I'll see what I can do. I know for some who don't use it, it's just taking up space. So it's a good idea in that sense. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1392695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
conductor Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Sorry for calling it junk, well at least to me the option of removing it would be usefull. @FlishFun the reason i suggested the enable/dsiable thing is because in the current version of autopatcher I am unable to remove any of the tweaks by just unchecking them, maybe I am doing something wrong. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1392735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlishFun Veteran Posted November 21, 2003 Author Veteran Share Posted November 21, 2003 Sorry for calling it junk, well at least to me the option of removing it would be usefull. @FlishFun the reason i suggested the enable/dsiable thing is because in the current version of autopatcher I am unable to remove any of the tweaks by just unchecking them, maybe I am doing something wrong. No, in the current version I didn't include a way to do that, but there will be an "Uninstall Tweaks" section, where you can manually get rid of whichever tweaks you want. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1392761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
conductor Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Oh awesome, alright I guess I haven't read upon some of these new features you will include, thanks for the info. Since some1 recommended putting adaware I wonder if you could put onne of those free antivirus programs so you can scan something directly from autopatcher. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1392770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlishFun Veteran Posted November 21, 2003 Author Veteran Share Posted November 21, 2003 Oh awesome, alright I guess I haven't read upon some of these new features you will include, thanks for the info. Since some1 recommended putting adaware I wonder if you could put onne of those free antivirus programs so you can scan something directly from autopatcher. No, AutoPatcher won't contain Free AntiVirus, but I'm seriously considering it for the Bonus Pack. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/114897-autopatcher-december-update-wishlist/page/16/#findComment-1392807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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