The mother of all NSA and US government conspiracies.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

He's German, he doesn't have any rights.

[nullie]

He's German, he doesn't have any rights.

Oh. well I amended my previous post. just so you know. I was 19/23 ..

[FloatingFatMan]

I have additional mental health evals

 

That's about the only thing in all your drivel that I find likely...

[Haggis Veteran]

This thread is nothing compared to the OP's website http://www.oregonstatehospital.net/ .

 

 

Which is blocked at my work under Personals/Dating

 

sounds intriguing lol

[nullie]

That's about the only thing in all your drivel that I find likely...

It's drivel then why are you still reading? BTW, if you read into this, I am actually trying to protect America and everyone's civil rights. and I already have 2 favorable evals. This is purely to get a lawsuit going (personal injury/civil rights violations), and to try to get this system shut down. so far I have witnessed in this thread, no one has a very scientific understanding of how any of this works. and they suffer from poor reading comprehension. basically you guys couldn't understand fact or science or technology even if it was all explained to you with tons of references and documents about it. lol

[JonnyLH]

If your so certain your country is out to get you, why don't you just..... move?

[FloatingFatMan]

It's drivel then why are you still reading? BTW, if you read into this, I am actually trying to protect America and everyone's civil rights. and I already have 2 favorable evals. This is purely to get a lawsuit going (personal injury/civil rights violations), and to try to get this system shut down. so far I have witnessed in this thread, no one has a very scientific understanding of how any of this works. and they suffer from poor reading comprehension. basically you guys couldn't understand fact or science or technology even if it was all explained to you with tons of references and documents about it. lol

 

You do realise that none of this "mind reading/control" technology is actually possible, right?  Nor do "millions of lasers" coming together form a magnetic field, and magnetic fields don't effect human tissue, or brainwaves... Tin also is reasonably effective at stopping radio signals from penetrating objects (put your cellphone into a tin, close the lid, and then try calling it).

 

I suppose next you'll try to tell us it's the alien lizard shapeshifters who are really in control and they're trying to take over the world and turn us all into slaves or food...

 

Seriously, if you're going to make up this nonsense, at least learn a little science to try to make it a bit more believable.

[nullie]

You do realise that none of this "mind reading/control" technology is actually possible, right?  Nor do "millions of lasers" coming together form a magnetic field, and magnetic fields don't effect human tissue, or brainwaves... Tin also is reasonably effective at stopping radio signals from penetrating objects (put your cellphone into a tin, close the lid, and then try calling it).

 

Seriously, if you're going to make up this nonsense, at least learn a little science to try to make it a bit more believable.

apparently someone didn't even read the thread. tin/foil was found to amplify microwave signals in a MIT study. they also use tin foil for antennas in old TVs and radios for Christs sake, meaning it must absorb and amplify signals pretty well. there is no way it blocks EMF with tin. also, your neurons broadcast radiowaves, as does everything that uses electons. even atoms do. the signals broadcasted by your neurons can be remotely read, using EEG / high resolution antenna arrays. also, finally, they already have pretty advanced brain computer interfaces - and everything inside the mind can be fully read. just read the Dr. Carole Smith article, or the Wikipedia Brain Computer Interface article, or the MindJustice.org website, etc here: http://www.oregonstatehospital.net/d/story.html#links - also, read up on the Russian laws that ban this technology in Russia, and the failed attempts to ban it in America. Dennis Kucinich's bill the Space Preservation Act is like a blueprint to the weapons capabilities of the US, which is also linked to in the above section on my website. these types of remote weapons are classified as "psychotronic and information" weapons. finally, according to Wikipedia, the electromagnetic fields of the mind can be overridden with microwaves. this is called a non-invasive BCI. neurons can be individually manipulated with an array of microwaves, all the signals in the mind can be remotely manipulated - allowing them to stream visuals, audio, sensations, and thought into your mind. finally, the US owns many patents on synthetic telepathy and remote mind reading technology, and remote nerve manipulation technologies, including the patents for voice to skull. the patent for the mind reading tech is :  6,011,991

 

 

 

6,011,991: A system and method for enabling human beings to communicate by way of their monitored brain activity. The brain activity of an individual is monitored and transmitted to a remote location (e.g. by satellite). At the remote location, the monitored brain activity is compared with pre-recorded normalized brain activity curves, waveforms, or patterns to determine if a match or substantial match is found. If such a match is found, then the computer at the remote location determines that the individual was attempting to communicate the word, phrase, or thought corresponding to the matched stored normalized signal.

 

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=US&NR=6011991&KC=&FT=E

 

Got a nice write up about it and other patents on the homepage. which is at http://www.obamasweapon.com/

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

Read up on faraday cages.

[nullie]

Read up on faraday cages.

just did, I had already revised my post before seeing yours. I meant specifically tin couldn't block EMF. there is also EMF shielding as used in air craft and in MRI machines..

[FloatingFatMan]

apparently someone didn't even read the thread. tin/foil was found to amplify microwave signals in a MIT study. they also use tin foil for antennas in old TVs and radios for Christs sake, meaning it must absorb and amplify signals pretty well. there is no way it blocks EMF with tin. also, your neurons broadcast radiowaves, as does everything that uses electons. even atoms do. the signals broadcasted by your neurons can be remotely read, using EEG / high resolution antenna arrays. also, finally, they already have pretty advanced brain computer interfaces - and everything inside the mind can be fully read. just read the Dr. Carole Smith article, or the Wikipedia Brain Computer Interface article, or the MindJustice.org website, etc here: http://www.oregonstatehospital.net/d/story.html#links - also, read up on the Russian laws that ban this technology in Russia, and the failed attempts to ban it in America. Dennis Kucinich's bill the Space Preservation Act is like a blueprint to the weapons capabilities of the US, which is also linked to in the above section on my website. these types of remote weapons are classified as "psychotronic and information" weapons. finally, according to Wikipedia, the electromagnetic fields of the mind can be overridden with microwaves. this is called a non-invasive BCI. neurons can be individually manipulated with an array of microwaves, all the signals in the mind can be remotely manipulated - allowing them to stream visuals, audio, sensations, and thought into your mind. finally, the US owns many patents on synthetic telepathy and remote mind reading technology, and remote nerve manipulation technologies, including the patents for voice to skull. the patent for the mind reading tech is :  6,011,991

 

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=US&NR=6011991&KC=&FT=E

 

Got a nice write up about it and other patents on the homepage. which is at http://www.obamasweapon.com/

 

You know, I think my cat understands physics more than you do...

 

Firstly, just because something can transmit a signal, doesn't mean it also can't block it.  If you surround ANYTHING in a conductive material such as metal, it becomes a faraday cage and the signal will be blocked.

 

Also, the electric impulses in the brain do NOT produce "radiowaves".  The brain produces an absolutely TINY electrical field, in the milliamp range, that can only be read by very sensitive equipment in virtual direct contact with the skull.  More than a centimeter or so from the head, and the field is far to weak to pick up, by anything.

 

Finally, science has been trying to work out computer/brain interface for decades, we're still many years away from anything that actually works.  You really need to get your head out of scifi novels and take a look at what technology can -actually- do, not what you wish it could.

 

All you're doing here is taking actual science, which is just at the barest beginnings of analysing brainwaves and using them to try to make computers doing things (and this requires physical contact!), and imagining that it can already read your thoughts and control your mind from miles away.  Well sorry, but that's just not possible.  If you truly believe that, you need help.

[nullie]

 

You know, I think my cat understands physics more than you do...

 

Firstly, just because something can transmit a signal, doesn't mean it also can't block it.  If you surround ANYTHING in a conductive material such as metal, it becomes a faraday cage and the signal will be blocked.

 

Also, the electric impulses in the brain do NOT produce "radiowaves".  The brain produces an absolutely TINY electrical field, in the milliamp range, that can only be read by very sensitive equipment in virtual direct contact with the skull.  More than a centimeter or so from the head, and the field is far to weak to pick up, by anything.

 

Finally, science has been trying to work out computer/brain interface for decades, we're still many years away from anything that actually works.  You really need to get your head out of scifi novels and take a look at what technology can -actually- do, not what you wish it could.

 

All you're doing here is taking actual science, which is just at the barest beginnings of analysing brainwaves and using them to try to make computers doing things (and this requires physical contact!), and imagining that it can already read your thoughts and control your mind from miles away.  Well sorry, but that's just not possible.  If you truly believe that, you need help.

 

why did you even respond? these issues are already explained in my previous posts. also, the brain uses the current equivalent of 20 watts/second, not "milliwatts." and all electrical activity generates electromagnetic fields, that can be read from near infinity. there is nothing that prevents a satellite or microscope from a ground based sensor from remotely focusing on you or anyone else. don't make up nonsense. there is also the ability to use terahertz radiation to focus on a particular area from any location, for remote imaging of matter and electromagnetic energy (see Dr. Carole Smith/MindJustice article previously linked.). your brain and body are very much like a light bulb, generating huge fields that are ALWAYS visible, especially with direct line of sight. the low level fields of the mind are in the low Hz range, and these penetrate walls and objects very well, unlike light energy. that means that my brain waves and yours are viewable for near infinite distance. finally, Wikipedia documents working BCIs that work today, including eye implants, synthetic telepathy, fMRI, video extraction, and lie detection. EEG is old, it doesn't have the resolution to fully image the brain or neurons - but a satellite, or anything higher resolution, that is another story. reality is, that satellites in deployment now can read much more than light energy - they read the full spectrum, and that includes the EMF produced by the brain. where did you hear otherwise, or do you just want to be blind because you think it's too complex?

 

btw. did you know the electromagnetic fields in your mind are used for communicating signals between neurons, and that neurotransmitters respond to and flow between neurons guided by electromagnetic fields? if this is the case, then any computer that has been designed to interpret these signals can certainly piece together images, sound, emotions, thought, and any other signals in the mind. the ticket here is that, publically available technologies like EEG and fMRI don't even have the resolution to do this. satellite technology with it's infinite resolution (gigapixels or better) does. fMRI does, but it doesn't except in non-academic environments.

[FloatingFatMan]

That 20 watts is the total combined electrical generation of ALL of your neurons.  individual neurons themselves produce power in the milliwatt range, and it's individual neurons that you must read or effect for your so called "mind control" device to function.  The great majority of all that 20 watts is taken up just with autonomic activity, such as moving, breathing and generally operating your body.  A tiny fraction of it is actually used in thought and memory, in the milliwatt range, and there's no way you can read or influence that without being in REALLY close physical contact (and even then you still can't because we don't know how).

 

Eye implants are brand new, only allow people to tell the difference between light and dark, and are directly connecting to the visual cortex. No "bionic man" eye implants here.

Synthetic telepathy is just science fiction, as is video extraction and lie detection (lie detection itself is probably the biggest fraud ever and is why it's not allowed as legally binding evidence), and the best spy satellites can't even resolve an image more than a few centimeters across of the ground beneath it, let alone read your thoughts.

 

Try again, crazy person.

 

As to why I responded; your posts are just too silly to ignore. Plus, you're entertaining. :p

[nullie]

That 20 watts is the total combined electrical generation of ALL of your neurons.  individual neurons themselves produce power in the milliwatt range, and it's individual neurons that you must read or effect for your so called "mind control" device to function.  The great majority of all that 20 watts is taken up just with autonomic activity, such as moving, breathing and generally operating your body.  A tiny fraction of it is actually used in thought and memory, in the milliwatt range, and there's no way you can read or influence that without being in REALLY close physical contact (and even then you still can't because we don't know how). neurons are not going to be any different, and the energy should travel easier and farther because of it's lower frequency.

 

Eye implants are brand new, only allow people to tell the difference between light and dark, and are directly connecting to the visual cortex. No "bionic man" eye implants here.

Synthetic telepathy is just science fiction, as is video extraction and lie detection (lie detection itself is probably the biggest fraud ever and is why it's not allowed as legally binding evidence), and the best spy satellites can't even resolve an image more than a few centimeters across of the ground beneath it, let alone read your thoughts.

 

Try again, crazy person.

 

As to why I responded; your posts are just too silly to ignore. Plus, you're entertaining. :p

You're incompetent. Yes it is true that the brain as a whole is 20-watts, but that doesn't mean anything. Take a look at dim light bulbs, for example. If I walk away from a dim light bulb, it no longer illuminates the area I'm in, but I can still focus on and see it's light from nearly any distance. The fact that neurons use very low frequency radio, the radiation should travel farther with less energy and penetrate objects much easier than light spectrum energy.

 

Secondly, Wikipedia documents the video extraction MRI technique. they have recorded videos from the mind of monkey's and cats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain%E2%80%93computer_interface and the Guardian newspaper documents the terahertz remote mind reading device, as described in this Dr. Carole Smith article. terahertz radiation is perfect for remote attacks and use in the public, over long ranges: http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2007/12/13/intrusive-brain-reading-surveillance-technology-hacking-the-mind-by-carole-smith/ the particular mind scanner that was demo'd was light shining light around the mind, and it allowed the full extraction of any thought, even if the user didn't know it was there.

 

btw, the eye implants allow full color vision (older ones allow black/white, the Argus II can be upgraded to color vision with newer models/software update), and they use nano wire implants in the eye to stimulate the nerve endings. the wires are implanted in a grid, and stimulate the nerves of red/green/blue nerve receptors. microwaves could be used to do this very same thing, wirelessly, only medical grade technology hasn't caught up to NSA/military technology. the NSA document on my website and in the first post describes this perfectly.

 

come back when you have some actual evidence to refute this. so far you keep making statements that are clearly contradicted by other information provided by respectable doctors, PhDs, and other sources. like patents, for example. and did you know that MindJustice.org is ran by a PhD who's both a victim of mind control experimentation, and an expert on non-lethal weapons/mind control who's listed and recognized by the United Nations? she says it's real, now what are your credentials? high school diploma? drop out?

[FloatingFatMan]

That's the thing. I don't need evidence to refute it. You're the one making the claims and providing nothing corroborative except other conspiracy sites and wikipedia, which is about as reliable a source as you are. Being a PhD doesn't prevent you from being a loon, you know.

 

Post proper, peer reviewed and verified articles, or continue to be considered an escapee from a nut house.

 

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

[JonnyLH]

You're incompetent. Yes it is true that the brain as a whole is 20-watts, but that doesn't mean anything. Take a look at dim light bulbs, for example. If I walk away from a dim light bulb, it no longer illuminates the area I'm in, but I can still focus on and see it's light from nearly any distance. The fact that neurons use very low frequency radio, the radiation should travel farther with less energy and penetrate objects much easier than light spectrum energy.

 

Secondly, Wikipedia documents the video extraction MRI technique. they have recorded videos from the mind of monkey's and cats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain%E2%80%93computer_interface and the Guardian newspaper documents the terahertz remote mind reading device, as described in this Dr. Carole Smith article. terahertz radiation is perfect for remote attacks and use in the public, over long ranges: http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2007/12/13/intrusive-brain-reading-surveillance-technology-hacking-the-mind-by-carole-smith/ the particular mind scanner that was demo'd was light shining light around the mind, and it allowed the full extraction of any thought, even if the user didn't know it was there.

 

btw, the eye implants allow full color vision, and they use nano wire implants in the eye to stimulate the nerve endings. the wires are implanted in a grid, and stimulate the nerves of red/green/blue nerve receptors. microwaves could be used to do this very same thing, wirelessly, only medical grade technology hasn't caught up to NSA/military technology. the NSA document on my website and in the first post describes this perfectly.

 

come back when you have some actual evidence to refute this. so far you keep making statements that are clearly contradicted by other information provided by respectable doctors, PhDs, and other sources. like patents, for example. and did you know that MindJustice.org is ran by a PhD who's both a victim of mind control experimentation, and an expert on non-lethal weapons/mind control who's listed and recognized by the United Nations? she says it's real, now what are your credentials? high school diploma? drop out?

Dude seriously, I think you need help.

 

Your claims are ridiculous. If any technology was around for actions like this the 2 areas which would snap it up immediately and turn into a monopoly is medical and military. To think that the US has the technology is ridiculous. To gather and collate that much data would need the worlds computing power. You've not meant any logical statements at all in this thread other than linking to Wikipedia articles and websites which look like they were made in Frontpage in '99. Seriously, come on.

[nullie]

Dude seriously, I think you need help.

 

Your claims are ridiculous. If any technology was around for actions like this the 2 areas which would snap it up immediately and turn into a monopoly is medical and military. To think that the US has the technology is ridiculous. To gather and collate that much data would need the worlds computing power. You've not meant any logical statements at all in this thread other than linking to Wikipedia articles and websites which look like they were made in Frontpage in '99. Seriously, come on.

I am talking to an illiterate bunch of walls. lol It's too bad none of us has NSA clearance, I'd literally declassify and publicize this **** myself. The problem is, most of what has been done with these weapons is illegal. they are used for torture, and warrantless spying. why would the US government ever disclose this willingly? It's like project MKULTRA, it took 20+ years after the program was allegedly shut down that the US disclosed any of it to the public. and then it wasn't by choice, it was a whistleblower that did it. in MKULTRA, the US designed and developed neuro weapons and drugs for mind control, and they tested and experimented on the public. the MKULTRA documents actually say thousands of US citizens were unwittingly drugged and experimented on, and nearly every hospital in American was working with the CIA to conduct these experiments. it is no different than what is going on today.

 

at this point though, the technology is in the hands of nearly cop in America. what they do with it is remote spying, covert communication, and occasionally remote human sabotage of targets.

[JonnyLH]

I am talking to an illiterate bunch of walls. lol It's too bad none of us has NSA clearance, I'd literally declassify and publicize this **** myself. The problem is, most of what has been done with these weapons is illegal. they are used for torture, and warrantless spying. why would the US government ever disclose this willingly? It's like project MKULTRA, it took 20+ years after the program was allegedly shut down that the US disclosed any of it to the public. and then it wasn't by choice, it was a whistleblower that did it. in MKULTRA, the US designed and developed neuro weapons and drugs for mind control, and they tested and experimented on the public. the MKULTRA documents actually say thousands of US citizens were unwittingly drugged and experimented on, and nearly every hospital in American was working with the CIA to conduct these experiments. it is no different that what is going on today.

Can't believe you've just even said that.

 

Give me one logical reason to why the US would use this technology in the manner you're describing? I don't want an overly wordy answer. A simple logical sentence to the reason why they would do this.

[FloatingFatMan]

Dude seriously, I think you need help.

 

Your claims are ridiculous. If any technology was around for actions like this the 2 areas which would snap it up immediately and turn into a monopoly is medical and military. To think that the US has the technology is ridiculous. To gather and collate that much data would need the worlds computing power. You've not meant any logical statements at all in this thread other than linking to Wikipedia articles and websites which look like they were made in Frontpage in '99. Seriously, come on.

 

You can't convince the deluded. All you can really do is either be entertained by them, or get them some help.

[nullie]

Can't believe you've just even said that.

 

Give me one logical reason to why the US would use this technology in the manner you're describing? I don't want an overly wordy answer. A simple logical sentence to the reason why they would do this.

because they can extract any thought or information they want from your mind, whether or not they have your consent or willingness? huh ? isn't that the big operational pay off? to warrantless spy, and get away with abuses without detection? that is always the goal of these programs. also, I don't think anyone in government gives a rats ass about the economy, it doesn't effect defense or intelligence at all. in fact, their budgets just keep expanding regardless of ill effects on the economy.

[JonnyLH]

because they can extract any thought or information they want from your mind, whether or not they have your consent or willingness? huh ? isn't that the big operational pay off? to warrantless spy, and get away with abuses without detection? that is always the goal of these programs. also, I don't think anyone in government gives a rats ass about the economy, it doesn't effect defense or intelligence at all. in fact, their budgets just keep expanding regardless of ill effects on the economy.

What's the point of having a massive database of everyone's moods and thoughts? Is it going to secure national security or get rid of the deficit?

[nullie]

just wait in a few years. you guys act like you have power, but you are both blind. you have no understanding of the US military industrial complex, either. you think you have privacy, you think you have civil rights, but you ain't got nothing, and the US government keeps edging out more and more, taking away more and more privileges, as technology allows.

[ILikeTobacco]

Wonder if this nut case realizes that if you were to record brainwaves they way he claims, you would have a bunch of useless information. Everyone has unique brainwaves as our brains program themselves in their own "programming language" which amounts to every brain having its own encryption. No two brains have the same brain waves and it takes a long time to be able to be able to be able to understand what a single brain is doing, let alone what all of them are doing.

 

because they can extract any thought or information they want from your mind, whether or not they have your consent or willingness? huh ? isn't that the big operational pay off? to warrantless spy, and get away with abuses without detection? that is always the goal of these programs. also, I don't think anyone in government gives a rats ass about the economy, it doesn't effect defense or intelligence at all. in fact, their budgets just keep expanding regardless of ill effects on the economy.

Except that science has already proven you can't. There are not enough computers on the planet to power the computations needed to decrypt everyone's brainwaves, let alone a few million. You are just making stuff up at this point and you don't even understand the basic science that disproves what you are claiming. Go back on your meds.

[nullie]

And what's the point of that? There's not one. 

okay, then why is PRISM running? why does Russell Tice, NSA whistleblower, have a bunch of new media interviews, saying the Bush and Obama administration are spying on every single electronic communication and signal in America, right now? Not just metadata, but your actual phone calls, and Internet use, and what you do in your home likely. Russell Tice says he used this space capability to do the spying on Americans, and that means what you're doing in your home and backyard. watch the video on my website in the media section. he worked at NSA signals intelligence, and he's the likely author of the disclosure of this Remote Neural Monitoring technology. this is all done warrantlessly, outside of the courts, they only spy through the courts when they want to use the information as evidence. get it through your heads, there's nothing lawful about it, and the US government doesn't care.

[FloatingFatMan]

 

just wait in a few years. you guys act like you have power, but you are both blind. you have no understanding of the US military industrial complex, either. you think you have privacy, you think you have civil rights, but you ain't got nothing, and the US government keeps edging out more and more, taking away more and more privileges, as technology allows.

 

 

If they can do all this, then instead of taking years to "ruin" your life, why don't just reprogram you into a good little robot, hmm?

 

Because they can't, that's why.