chrisj1968 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/07/new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247 Possible privacy violations by Microsoft?s upcoming Xbox One have come under new scrutiny since it was revealed Thursday that the tech giant was a crucial partner in an expansive Internet surveillance program conducted by the National Security Agency and involving Silicon Valley?s biggest players. One of the console?s key features is the full integration of the Kinect, a motion sensing camera that allows users to play games, scroll through menus, and generally operate the Xbox just using hand gestures. Microsoft has touted the camera as the hallmark of a new era of interactivity in gaming. What Microsoft has not promoted, however, is the fact that you will not be able to power on the console without first enabling the Kinect, designed to detect both heartbeats and eye movement. and positioning yourself in front of it. Disturbingly, a recently published Microsoft patent reveals the Kinect has the capability to determine exactly when users are viewing ads broadcast by the Xbox through its eye movement tracking. Consistent ad viewers would be granted rewards, according to the patent. Perhaps the feature most worryisome to privacy advocates is the requirement that the Xbox connect to the Internet at least once every 24 hours. Many critics have asserted that Microsoft will follow the lead of other Silicon Valley companies and use their console to gather data about its users, particularly through the Kinect, and collect it through the online connection users can?t avoid. Microsoft has promised that customers will be able to ?pause? the camera?s function, but have put off questions on the precise specifics of their privacy policies. +Mirumir 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Oh my -- they will see me nekkid. :huh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595747730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisj1968 Posted June 10, 2013 Author Share Posted June 10, 2013 So to me, this means spying. You buy one of these monliths and are basically giving permission to be watched, analyzed and what not. Again, I see the NSA involved... I'm a person who wants EVERYONE to be able to be safe, secure and unwatched in their homes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595747744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkburn Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 This deserves to be in the conspiracy section... NSA partner: unproven. Detects heartbeats?? I doubt it, and even if it did ... so what? Of course you don't need to be in front of the Xbox to turn it on. Patents =/= implementations. Simply connecting to the net is not a privacy concern, otherwise pretty much every online device ever is 'worryisome to privacy advocates'. And they have gone through a whole load of privacy questions already. Max Norris, ahhell and ZakO 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595747754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo003 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 You can always tape the damn thing till kingdom come. But I hate they're doing this in the first place. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595747756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisj1968 Posted June 10, 2013 Author Share Posted June 10, 2013 Oh my -- they will see me nekkid. :huh: I won't be able to sleep knowing this hum... ARRRGH! This deserves to be in the conspiracy section... NSA partner: unproven. Detects heartbeats?? I doubt it, and even if it did ... so what? Of course you don't need to be in front of the Xbox to turn it on. Patents =/= implementations. Simply connecting to the net is not a privacy concern, otherwise pretty much every online device ever is 'worryisome to privacy advocates'. And they have gone through a whole load of privacy questions already. nope. it is not conspiracy. Now.. had I said JFK was killed due to.. then perhaps. But this is a report from info received about Microsoft. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595747758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahhell Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 So to me, this means spying. You buy one of these monliths and are basically giving permission to be watched, analyzed and what not. Again, I see the NSA involved... I'm a person who wants EVERYONE to be able to be safe, secure and unwatched in their homes. What a bunch of crap that article is. kaotic 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595747768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
siah1214 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Wow the paranoia is strong here. ZakO, kaotic, MikeChipshop and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595747770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkburn Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 nope. it is not conspiracy. Now.. had I said JFK was killed due to.. then perhaps. But this is a report from info received about Microsoft. And extrapolating wildly (and incorrectly) from it... ahhell 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595747780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisj1968 Posted June 10, 2013 Author Share Posted June 10, 2013 hmm, based upon the Patent? I'm sorry if this offends anyones sensibilities. I just found the article myself. I hardly think the dailycaller has an axe to grind with Microsoft. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595747786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Eternal Tempest MVC Posted June 10, 2013 MVC Share Posted June 10, 2013 Heatbeat detection is true http://www.joystiq.com/2013/05/21/xbox-ones-kinect-discerns-heartbeat-and-who-has-the-controller/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595747788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahhell Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 hmm, based upon the Patent? I'm sorry if this offends anyones sensibilities. I just found the article myself. I hardly think the dailycaller has an axe to grind with Microsoft. Did you even look at that site? :| It's like the GOP version of the Dailymail. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595747790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Lyons10 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 So, even though Microsoft has made no mention of this, and in fact said that you will be able to turn the Kinect off entirely, we're going to run with a story based solely on a patent that they likely have no intention of using? Nice. LOL ahhell 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595747796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkburn Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Heatbeat detection is true http://www.joystiq.c...the-controller/ Thanks. So we're talking "that person looks flushed" vs. "that person looks normal". So basically what anyone could tell by simply looking at you. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595747802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nik Louch Subscriber² Posted June 10, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted June 10, 2013 FFS, the paranoia around here is bloody ridiculous! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595747812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisj1968 Posted June 10, 2013 Author Share Posted June 10, 2013 Did you even look at that site? :| It's like the GOP version of the Dailymail. I'm going to quell all this schizophrenia from people who state things about the OP. First, you don't know more than I do about this Xboxone. If you say you do, you're kidding yourself. Next, quit attacking the OP. You seem to think because you defend Microsoft, you'll somehow be seen as an "in" with the in group. From here on out, I'll ignore these ignorant posts from people who have nothing to say that adds to the OP in a productive manner. I just ask the MODS to please help keep the unproductive posts.. suchs as political rantings out of these ops please. this is an article, not by me if you have issue, go to the source. thank you Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595747820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Wow the paranoia is strong here. Wait till you find out that Xbox slowly microwaves your brain ! By then it will be too late ... :wacko: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595747886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
torrentthief Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Wow the paranoia is strong here. yep, oh wait a minute the nsa whistleblower leaked info proving that the us govt records every phone call, email etc and companies like microsoft are forced to do it: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595747926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
illage3 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 So they get to see me do things in my room O_O ..... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595747954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaotic Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 So they get to see me do things in my room O_O ..... I think it's kinky. Hum 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595747956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeChipshop Member Posted June 10, 2013 Member Share Posted June 10, 2013 I'm going to quell all this schizophrenia from people who state things about the OP. First, you don't know more than I do about this Xboxone. If you say you do, you're kidding yourself. Next, quit attacking the OP. You seem to think because you defend Microsoft, you'll somehow be seen as an "in" with the in group. From here on out, I'll ignore these ignorant posts from people who have nothing to say that adds to the OP in a productive manner. I just ask the MODS to please help keep the unproductive posts.. suchs as political rantings out of these ops please. this is an article, not by me if you have issue, go to the source. thank you Wow, paranoia really showing through here. He never attacked the OP he stated 'GOP'. In regards to the article, what a load of rubbish, made my head hurt just having to work my way through that twaddle. ahhell 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595747964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Remind me to strip naked in front of my XBone, if I ever get one. Anyone spying DESERVES to see what they will see! :p +Nik Louch 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595747996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nik Louch Subscriber² Posted June 10, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted June 10, 2013 You seem to think because you defend Microsoft, you'll somehow be seen as an "in" with the in group. Nope. I don't seem to do anything of the sort. I DO think that this article is hugely uninformed. If the writer believes that every Kinekt is always recording and sending that back to MS, then they are bloody idiots. I just ask the MODS to please help keep the unproductive posts.. suchs as political rantings out of these ops please. **** off! This is an article designed to provoke a response that will clearly involve politics! this is an article, not by me if you have issue, go to the source Grow up! Take some damned responsibility for bringing this tripe here! fusi0n and ahhell 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595748002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted June 10, 2013 Veteran Share Posted June 10, 2013 yeah and that windows operating system with the webcam isn't possible of this also? *gasp* common people...... this isn't the NSAbox.... guess what, if they wanted to spy, they could do it to start with years ago... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595748008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusi0n Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 After hearing about what all is going on.. people saying "paranoid" and just shrugging it off. Yeah, this might be a crap article.. but I wouldn't put it past or be surprised.. People need to wake up and see what is going on.. exotoxic 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1157962-dailycaller-new-xbox-by-nsa-partner-microsoft-will-watch-you-247/#findComment-595748038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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