Recommended Posts

The stories about iOS of late have been about the restyling of the icons. Some like them, and some do not, but all of this talk misses the crucial issue. The real story here is that the iOS user interface is really dated. Aside from face-lifts and the small bits of ornamentation, this is the same user experience that has always been on the platform. Sure, it?s been good. In fact, it?s been great; it was a genius implementation to help get a lot of tricky functionality easily within grasp of the less tech-savvy. But for the rest of the world who lives well within the Late Adopter portion of the innovation curve, we?re quite used to what this stuff can do. We users need something more. Now is the time for making data relationships rather than continuing to make introductions to technology.

 

http://thebackbencher.co.uk/the-not-so-earth-shattering-flattening-of-ios-7/

But for the rest of the world who lives well within the Late Adopter portion of the innovation curve, we?re quite used to what this stuff can do. We users need something more. Now is the time for making data relationships rather than continuing to make introductions to technology.

This logic always seems really stupid to me. Why does a user interface need to change because "people are used to it"? Surely that's a good thing? Change for the sake of change is a dumb idea.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

and this:

"it was a genius implementation to help get a lot of tricky functionality easily within grasp of the less tech-savvy" - "less tech-savvy" being 80% of the population. Those ads showing how simple things were on iOS must have really drew a lot of customers.

 

I'm glad iOS 7 is really just a major theme change with a bit added here and there. iOS 6 is polished, easy, and enjoyable to use, and there is no doubt that this will be the main focus of iOS 7 also.

 

If you can think of "something more", let me know. Good luck with doing so...

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

That's the most stupid argument that exists today. Because if everybody would have the same thinking in the 1920's as you have, then we would by your definition use cars like this today, only because the cars at that time was working good. The only differences today would be to use more cooler bumpers, spoilers, wheels and so on just to let it look better (in the same way as styling / theming iOS that is an OS from the stoneage, just to let it look better).

 

manchester.jpg

 

Today, we fix something that "works" to something that "works better".

 

I had Windows Mobile 6.5 on my Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 some years ago. It worked fine for me. Does that mean it was unnecessary to fix the OS (even though it worked good) and release Windows Phone 7 /8 ?

 

Get it?

That's the most stupid argument that exists today. Because if everybody would have the same thinking in the 1920's as you have, then we would by your definition use cars like this today, only because the cars at that time was working good. The only differences today would be to use more cooler bumpers, spoilers, wheels and so on just to let it look better (in the same way as styling / theming iOS that is an OS from the stoneage, just to let it look better).

 

Once we got an internal combustion engine running off gasoline that didn't require a crank starter, everything else has been a refinement of that same car. It's not like every car has fundamentally changed the way the steering wheel works, or the way you get in and out of the car, or how it goes and stops. That's the user interface. If you got in a car from the 1920s, you could drive it just the same as your car from today.

  • Like 3

This logic always seems really stupid to me. Why does a user interface need to change because "people are used to it"? Surely that's a good thing? Change for the sake of change is a dumb idea.

In that case we should have just stuck with a normal keypad like your Nokia 3310 had. It worked and people were used to it.

 

Oh wait. Times change.

Once we got an internal combustion engine running off gasoline that didn't require a crank starter, everything else has been a refinement of that same car. It's not like every car has fundamentally changed the way the steering wheel works, or the way you get in and out of the car, or how it goes and stops. That's the user interface. If you got in a car from the 1920s, you could drive it just the same as your car from today.

I hate the car analogy, but your idea of the way cars have evolved is seriously lacking. So you think the following advancements are cosmetic?

 

Servo steering followed by drive by wire

automatic transmission and tiptronic

safety glass

airbags

electronic injection

airconditioning

 

and so on and so on

I hate the car analogy, but your idea of the way cars have evolved is seriously lacking. So you think the following advancements are cosmetic?

 

Servo steering followed by drive by wire

automatic transmission and tiptronic

safety glass

airbags

electronic injection

airconditioning

 

and so on and so on

Those are nothing more than improvements and added features. The car concept hasn't changed since the 1920s. threetonesun's point still stands.

Surely the car doesn't count because it is nothing more than a natural evolution of the horse and cart?

 

Which in turn is a natural evolution of slaves pulling a chariot,

 

Which in turn is an evolution of pushing a barrow,

 

Which in turn is an evolution of carrying goods on your back.


The stories about iOS of late have been about the restyling of the icons. Some like them, and some do not, but all of this talk misses the crucial issue. The real story here is that the iOS user interface is really dated.

 

It still sells well. That's the main thing. The media needs a story so if the can't find one they make one.

In that case we should have just stuck with a normal keypad like your Nokia 3310 had. It worked and people were used to it.

 

Oh wait. Times change.

 

That's not what I meant. Improving in any area is good, but saying "You need a new UI because people are used to the old one" is dumb. By that logic, the car manufacturers should re-order the pedals in your car every few years because it looks like "we're all used to them in ABC order".

 

When someone comes up with a new UI that solves a significant problem with the old one, sure, bring it on, but don't change for the sake of change, because inevitably it'll just annoy a whole buttload of people.

That's not what I meant. Improving in any area is good, but saying "You need a new UI because people are used to the old one" is dumb. By that logic, the car manufacturers should re-order the pedals in your car every few years because it looks like "we're all used to them in ABC order".

 

When someone comes up with a new UI that solves a significant problem with the old one, sure, bring it on, but don't change for the sake of change, because inevitably it'll just annoy a whole buttload of people.

The old iOS UI was far from spectacular. It just happened to be a bit better than the current lol-fest

Just because something has worked well doesnt mean it cant be improved.

Nobody here is against improvement. But the word itself implies a refinement of a stablished context, not the inauguration of a new one.

"Innovation" is a double edged sword.  Change something people already love, and they hate it until they love it.  Look at Windows 8.

And the various updates to YouTube.

 

Honestly, I think the new iOS7 is ugly.   If it was on Android I could change that in 5 mins.  All apple have done essentially is polish a turd a little bit and spray airfreshner around it.

 

What's even worse is how Apple tout these "new" features as something they invented, when they didn't.  Most iOS features have been on Android for quite some time.  

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Posts

    • Google pitches Spanner as one database for all AI agents with these new featues by Karthik Mudaliar Google Cloud is introducing new features within Spanner, its distributed database, as a place where enterprises should keep their data, using which AI agents could make smarter and better decisions. In a detailed blog post, Google highlighted quite a few features coming to Spanner, including relational data, graph relationships, vector search, key-value access, full-text search, and operational analytics together in one database architecture. Google says that today's systems aren't well-made for AI agents. There could be data that is present in one system, search indexes in another, embeddings in a vector database, and relationship data in a graph database. This fragmentation isn't great for AI agents to do their jobs because they don't have access to all of this data in one place. This is where Google is positioning Spanner as a solution. Spanner is already a globally distributed relational database with strong consistency, and Google wants its customers to see it as a broader data layer for AI applications. The company introduced something called Spanner Graph, along with integrated vector search, full-text search, a Cassandra-compatible key-value endpoint, and a columnar engine for analytical queries on operational data. Google also added that its ScaNN-powered vector search can support indexes with more than 10 billion vectors, while the columnar engine can make some analytical scans up to 200 times faster. All of this isn't just exclusive to the Google Cloud Platform, and there's support for multi-cloud as well. This comes via Spanner Omni, which Google says is a downloadable, containerized version of Spanner that can run on Kubernetes and in environments outside Google Cloud, including Microsoft Azure and AWS, and even on-premises infrastructure as well as edge deployments. Google says that customers who are interested in the full-featured edition should contact the company, and there's no word on commercial availability or separate pricing. Those interested can read the full blog by Google Cloud, which details these features individually.
    • Kalmuri 4.2.5 by Razvan Serea Kalmuri is your all-in-one, portable screen capture and recording solution designed for speed, simplicity, and flexibility. Whether you need a full-screen snapshot, a custom area, a scrolling webpage, or smooth video recording, Kalmuri delivers with ease. Capture text instantly from images with built-in OCR, keep floating images on top for quick reference, and use the precise color picker for perfect design matching. Customize hotkeys to work your way and share results instantly with built-in upload options. Kalmuri runs without installation, making it ideal for USB use, and offers an intuitive interface that’s easy to learn. Kalmuri key features: Video recording support (designation of whole screen and area) Whole screen, active program, window control, area application Extract text from images using optical character recognition (OCR). Support for PNG, JPG, WEBP, BMP, GIF file formats MP4 video recording powered by FFmpeg for high-quality results Full web page capture Share the captured image on the web Color extraction function Printer output Hotkey settings Adjustable via keyboard for area capture (Arrow key, Ctrl+Arrow key, Shift+Arrow key) File name format (sequential, datetime) Free to use it at work, at home, in government offices, at school, etc. Using Kalmuri portable for video recording Kalmuri’s portable version doesn’t include FFmpeg, which is required for video recording. Without it, you’ll get an “error FFmpeg.exe not found” message. To fix this, download FFmpeg from the provided link, extract it, and place FFmpeg.exe in Kalmuri’s folder. Kalmuri will then recognize it automatically, allowing you to start recording in high quality instantly. Kalmuri 4.2.5 changelog: Fixed an intermittent crash when using Area Capture Improved stability for Area Capture and screen recording Resolved a capture issue that could occur right after startup Download: Kalmuri 4.2.5 | 24.2 MB (Freeware) Download: Kalmuri Portable 4.2.5 | 2.1 MB View: Kalmuri Website | Screenshot Get alerted to all of our Software updates on Twitter at @NeowinSoftware
    • They have lots of info on me, I have a facebook account and have done so for years, it was the thing to have then. My phone number is not on it. I don't have the Facebook app on my phone these days, just the messenger part, and only for a couple of people to contact me, most will text me via SMS or phone. I agree, Meta, like others, even without an account will know something about me. Just have to try and keep some things private Also, never saw the need for Whatsapp, people used to ask for me to join it, but as I said to them, I have SMS and a phone, use that, or email
  • Recent Achievements

    • First Post
      rosiecharles earned a badge
      First Post
    • Reacting Well
      Juan Dela earned a badge
      Reacting Well
    • Week One Done
      Collagen Project earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Reacting Well
      Wakeen1966 earned a badge
      Reacting Well
    • Rookie
      Almohandis went up a rank
      Rookie
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      515
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      273
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      143
    4. 4
      Steven P.
      99
    5. 5
      macoman
      54
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!