WikiLeaks' UFO Cables: More About Raelian Cult Than Alien Life


Recommended Posts

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/02/07/wikileaks-ufo-cables-more-about-raelian-cult-than-alien-life/

 

 

If WikiLeaks didn?t already have the attention of the world?s conspiracy theorists, its founder Julian Assange grabbed the X-files crowd by their tin-foil helmet antennae in December, when he mentioned that the site plans to publish leaked cables that reference UFOs.

But after two months of allowing the UFO-obsessed to let their psychotic imaginations run wild, Assange may have put a damper on hopes that Area 51?s secrets will finally be exposed.

In the first of a series of video interviews posted Sunday that WikiLeaks is calling a ?Live People?s Conference,? Assange answered questions submitted by the group?s? fans. One, sent in by a Canadian named Pierre Brunet, asked about the upcoming UFO cable release. And Assange?s answer, which appears around 5:40 in the video below, may disappoint those who have been busy building alien landing sites out of their mashed potatoes.

WikiLeaks? UFO-related material, Assange says, largely deals with the UFO cult group known as the Raelians, whose beliefs mix religion, sex, pseudo-science and alien mythology. State Department officials in Canada have expressed concern over the group?s influence there, citing a 2002 incidentwhen the group falsely claimed to have cloned humans.

 

 

Here?s the transcript of his answer to the question:

I have said in passing there is information about UFOs in Cablegate. And that is true, but these are only small passing references. Most of the material concerns UFO cults, and their behavior in recruiting people. For instance, there is quite a large cable, which we?ll try and release in the next few days, concerning the Raelians, a UFO cult which has a strong presence in Canada and was of concern to the U.S. ambassador in Canada. At that time, the Raelians claimed to have cloned an individual, and fantastically, the press all around the world ate this up and turned it into front page stories.

 

 

  • Like 2

Dont see why you had to post this. From what I gather from previous post. You tend to poke fun at people's beliefs

How quickly "Truth" is discarded when it doesn't fit people's beliefs
  • Like 3

Dont see why you had to post this. From what I gather from previous post. You tend to poke fun at people's beliefs 

 

The Raelians will take care of him pretty quick. :laugh:

  • Like 2
State Department officials in Canada have expressed concern over the group?s influence there, citing a 2002 incident when the group falsely claimed to have cloned humans.

 

I remember this incident quite well.

 

Over a period of several months, they were showing interviews on tele with this woman, cloneaid's PR chief, who tried to convince everyone that they had successfully cloned a girl.

Dont see why you had to post this. From what I gather from previous post. You tend to poke fun at people's beliefs

Beliefs != Common sense. There's no credible scientific evidence to support alien life visiting our planet, let alone interacting with humans. If there's one thing the whole Snowden fiasco has shown, it's that nothing remains secret for long. If there was proof, we'd have it by now.

I believe there is alien life out there, some of it being intelligent, but there's just too much standing in the way of long term interstellar travel that I feel inhibits any kind of extraterrestrial life from visiting us on a regular basis.

Dont see why you had to post this. From what I gather from previous post. You tend to poke fun at people's beliefs 

 

:rofl:  Read about these beliefs and you try not to laugh at how ridiculous they are.

So yet again Wikileaks beef up what they have then admit it is nothing, again.

 

So far from Wikileaks:

1. No proof Iraq war was for oil.

2. No proof of 911 being inside job.

3. No proof aliens.

4. No proof planning a war against Syria.

 

Please correct me if I am wrong. (Not a conspiracy website that has read a speculative comment in a cable and blown it out proportion)

  • Like 2

Beliefs != Common sense. There's no credible scientific evidence to support alien life visiting our planet ...

 

And why do you say that ... ?

 

It's a very big planet, and not all 'evidence' is laying out in the open.

How did everyone went off-topic to what I was saying..? I did not once said I agreed with the article. 

 

 

What were you saying? Someone shouldn't post something if it pokes fun at someone's belief?  :rolleyes:

No proof of scientist being honest with their studies is another one for you ;) Human beings tend to play the role of a god and fail at it pretty bad lol

Does the idea that there might be truth

Frighten you?

Does the idea that one afternoon

On Wiki-****ing-pedia might enlighten you

Frighten you?

Does the notion that there may not be a supernatural

So blow your hippy noodle

That you would rather just stand in the fog

Of your inability to Google?

Isn't this enough?

Just this world?

Just this beautiful, complex

Wonderfully unfathomable, NATURAL world?

How does it so fail to hold our attention

That we have to diminish it with the invention

Of cheap, man-made Myths and Monsters?

If you're so into Shakespeare

Lend me your ear:

To gild refined gold, to paint the lily,

To throw perfume on the violet is just ****ing silly

Or something like that.

Or what about Satchmo?!

I see trees of Green,

Red roses too,

And fine, if you wish to

Glorify Krishna and Vishnu

In a post-colonial, condescending

Bottled-up and labeled kind of way

Then whatever, that's ok.

But here's what gives me a hard-on:

I am a tiny, insignificant, ignorant lump of carbon.

I have one life, and it is short

And unimportant

But thanks to recent scientific advances

I get to live twice as long

As my great great great great uncleses and auntses.

Twice as long to live this life of mine

Twice as long to love this wife of mine

Twice as many years of friends and wine

Of sharing curries and getting ****ty

With good-looking hippies

With fairies on their spines

And butterflies on their *****.

-Tim Minchin

And why do you say that ... ?

 

It's a very big planet, and not all 'evidence' is laying out in the open.

Somewhere along the lines, it would have leaked. Yet, after years and years, and years of "reports", there's nothing conclusive to say we're being visited. No photos (despite everyone having a camera on them today), no video, nothing to tell me otherwise. Somewhere, someone should have evidence, yet no one does.

Does the idea that there might be truth

Frighten you?

Does the idea that one afternoon

On Wiki-****ing-pedia might enlighten you

Frighten you?

Does the notion that there may not be a supernatural

So blow your hippy noodle

That you would rather just stand in the fog

Of your inability to Google?

Isn't this enough?

Just this world?

Just this beautiful, complex

Wonderfully unfathomable, NATURAL world?

How does it so fail to hold our attention

That we have to diminish it with the invention

Of cheap, man-made Myths and Monsters?

If you're so into Shakespeare

Lend me your ear:

To gild refined gold, to paint the lily,

To throw perfume on the violet is just ****ing silly

Or something like that.

Or what about Satchmo?!

I see trees of Green,

Red roses too,

And fine, if you wish to

Glorify Krishna and Vishnu

In a post-colonial, condescending

Bottled-up and labeled kind of way

Then whatever, that's ok.

But here's what gives me a hard-on:

I am a tiny, insignificant, ignorant lump of carbon.

I have one life, and it is short

And unimportant

But thanks to recent scientific advances

I get to live twice as long

As my great great great great uncleses and auntses.

Twice as long to live this life of mine

Twice as long to love this wife of mine

Twice as many years of friends and wine

Of sharing curries and getting ****ty

With good-looking hippies

With fairies on their spines

And butterflies on their *****.

-Tim Minchin

Are you done blabbering? What a way to assume things about me.

Can't explain your statement, mate?

 

Go troll elsewhere.

To the likes of you. Not worth it. Hence why I dont spend anytime with closed minded neowin people. From everyone I ever met or talk to neowin is Far from open minded. 

Are you done blabbering? What a way to assume things about me.

To the likes of you. Not worth it. Hence why I dont spend anytime with closed minded neowin people. From everyone I ever met or talk to neowin is Far from open minded. 

 

:laugh:

 

Not accepting ###### conspiracies at face value because it feeds into some superiority complex held by many conspiracy nuts is not an example of close mindedness.

Dont see why you had to post this. From what I gather from previous post. You tend to poke fun at people's beliefs 

 

 

So I shouldn't post this because it's a counter view to you and others? Talk about hypocritical nonsense. No one forced you to participate in this thread, if you don't like the content, that's 100% on you and you alone. 

No proof of scientist being honest with their studies is another one for you ;) Human beings tend to play the role of a god and fail at it pretty bad lol

 

 

By all means, provide counter evidence, we'll be waiting. 

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • First exciting thing to come to Windows in a long time ! This is the kind of things they should focus on, instead of cramming as much AI as they can in everything.
    • New AMD graphics driver fixes install issues and FSR 4.1 crashes on RX 7000 GPUs by Taras Buria AMD is rolling out yet another graphics driver. Version 26.6.4 is now available for download, bringing two important fixes. One is for those still using Windows 10 and having trouble installing driver 26.6.2. In fact, this patch is coming from the recently released hotfix, so it is not new if you are already running version 26.6.3. The second fix is for RX 7000 owners. AMD recently brought FSR 4.1 support to the previous-gen graphics cards, but there was a bug with certain games crashing when using FSR 4.1. I experienced this issue with Forza Horizon 6, so today's driver should take care of that. Here is the official changelog: Intermittent install issue seen when installing AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 26.6.2 on Windows® 10 systems for Radeon™ RX 7000 series and above graphics products. Intermittent application crash may be observed in some games with AMD FSR Upscaling 4.1 enabled on Radeon™ RX 7000 series graphics products. Known issues include the following: Intermittent application crash or driver timeout may be observed while playing Battlefield™ 6 on AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370. AMD is actively working on a resolution with the developer to be released as soon as possible. Texture flickering or corruption may appear while playing Battlefield™ 6 with AMD Record and Stream on some AMD graphics products. AMD FSR Upscaling and AMD FSR Frame Generation may show as inactive in AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition while playing Battlefield™ 6 when enabled on Radeon™ RX 9000 series graphics products. Failure to install may be observed while installing AI Bundle components in some regions with limited access to HuggingFace and GitHub. Model flickering or rendering failure may be observed in Maxon Cinema 4D and Blender on Radeon™ RX 7000 series and above graphics products. Users experiencing this issue are recommended to install AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 26.3.1. Intermittent application crash may be observed on some models while running Blender on Radeon™ RX 7000 series and above graphics products. Users experiencing this issue are recommended to install AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 26.3.1. You can download the AMD Radeon driver 26.6.4 from the official website here. Full release notes are available on the same page.
    • Amazon may use OpenAI and Nova models after Anthropic reportedly raises costs by Karthik Mudaliar Amazon is reportedly considering to use OpenAI models and even its own Nova family of AI models after Anthropic raised the cost of using Claude inside Amazon services. According to a report from The Information, Amazon is weighing its options to reduce costs under a new arrangement with Anthropic. But back in April, Amazon said it would invest $5 billion more in Anthropic, with the possibility of adding up to another $20 billion if certain commercial milestones are met. That investment actually came on top of another $8 billion Amazon had already put into the Claude maker. Anthropic, meanwhile, committed to spend more than $100 billion over 10 years on AWS technologies, including Amazon’s Trainium chips. Amazon isn't just a customer of Anthropic but also one of the most important backers and cloud partners. This is why it makes it interesting that Amazon is considering other alternatives to handle its internal workloads. Although Amazon has been building its own options for a while now. Its Nova family of AI models was announced in late 2024 for Amazon Bedrock, with models aimed at text, image, and video tasks. Amazon pitched the model around cost and latency at that time. With that said, OpenAI has also become a more realistic option recently for AWS customers as well as for Amazon itself. Earlier this year, OpenAI brought its latest models and Codex coding agent to Amazon Bedrock, after changes to its previously more restrictive Microsoft cloud arrangement. This allowed AWS to serve even those customers who wanted other alternatives from Claude, without having to move workloads out of Amazon's cloud. Evaluating alternatives could also be due to commercial pressure and not necessarily a sign of a damaged partnership between Amazon and Anthropic. Whether or not Amazon is actually considering switching entirely to OpenAI's models or its own Nova models remains unknown at this moment.
    • Samsung introduces new AI classroom tools and interactive displays at ISTELive 2026 by Fiza Ali Samsung has announced several new education-focused software features and interactive displays for schools during ISTELive 2026, taking place in Orlando, Florida, from 28 June to 1 July. The focus of these updates is on making shared classroom displays easier to use for teachers while giving IT administrators more control over managing devices. One of the key additions is the Samsung Account Management Solution (AMS). In many schools, multiple teachers share the same interactive display throughout the day, which means signing in and setting everything up can become repetitive. With AMS, teachers can log in by scanning a QR code or tapping an NFC-enabled ID card. Once signed in, their personalised workspace, including wallpapers, bookmarks, app shortcuts, and files, can be instantly accessed through Home Personalisation. Samsung has also included a screen lock feature, allowing teachers to lock the display if they need to step away briefly. Furthermore, the company is also updating its Education Portal with new tools designed for school IT administrators. The portal will allow IT administrators to register teachers, enrol devices, and manage user access from a central dashboard. Administrators can also link NFC cards to teacher accounts, making sign-ins quicker across shared displays. Another addition is a Tags feature that lets schools organise displays by building or classroom. Those tags can also be used to send emergency notifications to selected Samsung Interactive Displays through compatible platforms such as InformaCast and Raptor. Moreover, the tech giant's AI Assistant is gaining several new features aimed at supporting everyday classroom tasks such as lesson planning and classroom engagement. One of the features is Circle to Search, which lets teachers circle text or images on the display to quickly find related information, videos, or web results without interrupting the lesson. The content can then be brought into Samsung Whiteboard. Another feature, Live Transcript, converts spoken lessons into real-time captions, which could be useful for students with hearing impairments or those in multilingual classrooms. The AI Assistant also introduces AI Summary and AI Quiz. The summary tool creates summaries of recorded lessons, while AI Quiz generates questions based on lesson content so teachers can quickly check how well students are following along. Teachers signed in through Samsung AMS can also return to their previous AI-generated lesson materials without logging in again. Alongside the software updates, Samsung has expanded its Android-based Interactive Display range with three new models: the WAF-S, WAFX-PS, and WAHX-M. The WAF-S and WAFX-PS ship with Android 16, bringing updates to security, accessibility, and overall usability while maintaining compatibility with Google's education services including Google Classroom and Google Drive through EDLA certification. Meanwhile, the new WAHX-M is the biggest addition to the lineup, introducing a 98-inch display for larger spaces such as lecture halls and conference rooms. It will also be available in 65-inch, 75-inch and 86-inch sizes. Samsung says the WAHX-M further includes on-device AI features such as voice commands, text-to-speech, and an AI calculator, alongside support for Samsung AMS and AI Assistant. Samsung AI Assistant has been available since April, while Samsung AMS and the updated Education Portal will begin rolling out in July.
    • It's been $24 (single) or $89 (4-pack) for many days on both Amazon and Walmart as far as I know. That isn't a big discount. If these end up like the 1st gen, the 4-pack will routinely get down around $80, give or take a dollar. I think they have even hit $69 at times.
  • Recent Achievements

    • Reacting Well
      NovaEdgeX earned a badge
      Reacting Well
    • Week One Done
      NovaEdgeX earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Year In
      BA the Curmudgeon earned a badge
      One Year In
    • Conversation Starter
      rosiecharles earned a badge
      Conversation Starter
    • First Post
      KMilenkoski1202 earned a badge
      First Post
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      536
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      269
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      150
    4. 4
      Steven P.
      97
    5. 5
      macoman
      63
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!