Google, IBM and NVIDIA partake in OpenPOWER Consortium


Recommended Posts

Google, IBM and NVIDIA partake in OpenPOWER Consortium, a dev group for data centers

 

ibm-data-center.jpg

 

It's a rare occurrence to see Google, NVIDIA and IBM working lockstep towards a common goal, but the aforesaid trio has joined Mellanox and Tyan in order to launch a development group for data centers. The aptly-titled OpenPOWER Consortium is hailed as a "development alliance based on IBM's POWER microprocessor architecture." We're told that it intends to concoct "advanced server, networking, storage and GPU-acceleration technology aimed at delivering more choice, control and flexibility to developers of next-generation, hyperscale and cloud data centers." Sounds pretty bold, and it'll require IBM to offer up open-source POWER firmware to those participating. Moreover, NVIDIA and IBM will be jointly working to integrate the CUDA GPU and POWER ecosystems, but beyond that, it's not entirely clear what the immediate impact on mankind will be. You're more than welcome to take stabs in comments, though.

 

 

http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/07/google-ibm-nvidia-openpower-consortium-data-center/

thanks for the laugh to start off the day... oh Google has no clue compared to IBM

 

The question was about what they contribute, not if they were the freaking master gurus in the area they can contribute.

 

Google is in the top 5 of server manufacturers, which is exactly the market this consortium is targeted at.

The question was about what they contribute, not if they were the freaking master gurus in the area they can contribute.

 

Google is in the top 5 of server manufacturers, which is exactly the market this consortium is targeted at.

 

Yeah, but they're not contributing anything when the consortium already has an expert on that field, which is the very expert google calls when THEY have problems. 

 

in this case, google is part of it merely to be part of the gang. basically if they didn't have bags of money, they wouldn't even have been asked or allowed if they asked. 

Yeah, but they're not contributing anything when the consortium already has an expert on that field, which is the very expert google calls when THEY have problems. 

 

in this case, google is part of it merely to be part of the gang. basically if they didn't have bags of money, they wouldn't even have been asked or allowed if they asked. 

 

The consortium is open to anyone that wants to join in so I don't see why they wouldn't have been allowed. 

 

And Google might call IBM to solve problems (I don't know for sure, do you?) but they have ditched all the server providers to build their own hardware and design their own datacenters (that is, they don't use IBM servers, so I'm again not sure about why IBM would be involved in any way, more so when Google loves to keep all their data center stuff as secret as possible).

 

Considering that while being in the top 5 server manufaturers they don't actually sell any equipment but rather user every single server they build, and also that the data centers they design rate among the best in PUE and that they are also pioneers in chiller less data centers I'd say that they know a thing or two.

The consortium is open to anyone that wants to join in so I don't see why they wouldn't have been allowed. 

 

And Google might call IBM to solve problems (I don't know for sure, do you?) but they have ditched all the server providers to build their own hardware and design their own datacenters (that is, they don't use IBM servers, so I'm again not sure about why IBM would be involved in any way, more so when Google loves to keep all their data center stuff as secret as possible).

 

Considering that while being in the top 5 server manufaturers they don't actually sell any equipment but rather user every single server they build, and also that the data centers they design rate among the best in PUE and that they are also pioneers in chiller less data centers I'd say that they know a thing or two.

just because you don't use IBM Servers and mainframes, doesn't mean IBM didn't help design it... IBM does more then hardware... they do hardware design for 3rd parties, they do mass network architecture, they do mass distributed system design... you want it on your hardware pay them and they'll say here's your plans... you want It on their hardware they will sell you racks of ultra expensive but designed to last forever systems to their specs

 

and IBM can keep a secret if you want your plans hush hush... heck they work with some of the largest government programs out there to make designs for them...

just because you don't use IBM Servers and mainframes, doesn't mean IBM didn't help design it... IBM does more then hardware... they do hardware design for 3rd parties, they do mass network architecture, they do mass distributed system design... you want it on your hardware pay them and they'll say here's your plans... you want It on their hardware they will sell you racks of ultra expensive but designed to last forever systems to their specs

 

and IBM can keep a secret if you want your plans hush hush... heck they work with some of the largest government programs out there to make designs for them...

 

Doesn't mean they did, either.

Google might get help from IBM, or maybe HP, or someone else, or maybe they do it all on their own. They are big enough to have their own engineers with enough expertise on the matter to be self-sufficient.

 

Anyway, whatever Google's contribution might be in the consortium I'm sure IBM would love them to start using their Power processors in their data centers and take the business from Intel.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • Pretty nice tool, thanks
    • Indeed. But note that this has Wifi7, HDMI 2.1, BlueTooth 5.4, and 5G Ethernet, so even in the additional features list this bundle blows the Steam Machine away. And, with the money saved, one could improve this dramatically.
    • One of the strangest galaxies in our Universe could help answer some long overdue questions by Sayan Sen Image by Pixabay via Pexels | Not representative An international team of astronomers led by the Department of Astronomy at Tsinghua University has discovered an unusually metal-poor galaxy that may contain signs of first-generation star formation. The galaxy, named Metal-Pristine Galaxy COSMOS Redshift 3 (MPG-CR3), or CR3, was identified using observations from the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST), the Very Large Telescope (VLT), and the Subaru Telescope. The findings, published in The Astrophysical Journal Letters, describe CR3 as the most metal-poor galaxy known from the period known as "cosmic noon," around 11.5 billion years ago. Cosmic noon refers to a period when the universe was producing stars at its highest rate and galaxies were growing rapidly. In astronomy, "metals" refers to all elements heavier than helium, including oxygen, carbon, and iron. Because CR3 contains so few of these heavier elements, researchers say it closely resembles what scientists expect the earliest galaxies in the universe may have looked like. The discovery is significant because it could offer clues about Population III (Pop III) stars, the first generation of stars thought to have formed after the Big Bang. These stars are believed to have formed from gas made almost entirely of hydrogen and helium, before heavier elements were created inside stars and spread across the universe through supernova explosions. Hence this is why CR3 has been referred to as a "living fossil." Scientists have long believed that Population III stars existed only in the very early universe. As more generations of stars formed and died, they enriched surrounding gas with heavier elements, making the conditions needed for metal-free star formation increasingly rare. Because of this, researchers expected the formation of such stars to have largely ended after the epoch of reionization, a period when radiation from the first stars and galaxies transformed the neutral hydrogen filling the universe and made it largely transparent to ultraviolet light. CR3 appears to challenge that idea. The galaxy was observed at a redshift of z = 3.193 ± 0.016. Redshift measures how much light from a distant object has been stretched as the universe expands and helps astronomers determine how far back in time they are looking. In this case, the redshift corresponds to roughly 11.5 billion years ago during cosmic noon. Although the universe was already several billion years old by that point, CR3 shows characteristics more commonly associated with much earlier galaxies. Observations revealed exceptionally strong emissions from hydrogen and helium, including Lyα, Hα, and He I λ10830. Lyα, or Lyman-alpha emission, is a specific wavelength of light produced by hydrogen and is widely used to study distant galaxies. Hα emission is another hydrogen signature commonly used to trace active star formation, while He I λ10830 is produced by helium and can indicate the presence of very hot, young stars. The measured equivalent widths of EW₀(Lyα) = 822 ± 101 Å and EW₀(Hα) = 2814 ± 327 Å are among the highest ever observed in star-forming galaxies. Equivalent width is a measure of the strength of an emission line relative to the surrounding light, and such large values are typically associated with intense and very recent star formation. At the same time, researchers found no statistically significant detections of metal emission lines, including [O III] λλ4959, 5007 and C IV λλ1548, 1550. Emission lines act as chemical fingerprints that reveal which elements are present in a galaxy. Oxygen and carbon lines are commonly seen in galaxies that have already undergone significant chemical enrichment. Their absence in CR3 suggests an unusually pristine environment. Using abundance calibration methods developed with JWST observations, the team placed a 2σ upper limit on the galaxy's gas-phase metallicity of 12+log(O/H)<6.52, corresponding to less than 0.7% of the Sun's metallicity (Z < 7 × 10⁻³ Z⊙). Gas-phase metallicity measures the abundance of heavy elements in a galaxy's gas. A 2σ upper limit indicates that the true value is very unlikely to be higher than the quoted threshold. Even when accounting for uncertainties in the calibration methods, the most conservative limit remains 12+log(O/H)<6.95, making CR3 the most metal-poor galaxy identified at cosmic noon. The galaxy also appears to contain very little dust. Researchers measured a Lyα/Hα flux ratio of 13.9 ± 2.5, a result that suggests negligible dust attenuation, meaning very little of the galaxy's light is being absorbed or scattered by cosmic dust. Because dust is usually produced by earlier generations of stars, this finding further supports the idea that CR3 has experienced very little chemical enrichment. Further analysis using spectral energy distribution modelling, a technique that compares observed light with theoretical models, suggests that CR3 contains an extremely young stellar population only around 2 million years old. The modelling, which used Population III stellar templates, also indicates the galaxy has a stellar mass of approximately 6.1 × 10⁵ M⊙. The symbol M⊙ represents one solar mass, or the mass of the Sun. One of the key questions raised by the discovery is how such a chemically primitive galaxy could exist in a universe that had already spent billions of years producing heavier elements. To investigate this, the researchers examined CR3's surroundings. Their analysis suggests the galaxy may lie in a slightly underdense environment, with a density contrast of roughly δ ≈ −0.12. An underdense region contains less matter and fewer galaxies than average. The team suggests that this relative isolation may have helped preserve pockets of pristine gas. Metal-rich material expelled from nearby galaxies may never have reached CR3, while the lower rate of galaxy mergers and interactions could have slowed the mixing of enriched gas into the system. If future observations confirm these findings, CR3 could provide some of the strongest evidence yet that first-generation star formation continued well after the epoch of reionization. Such a result would challenge the conventional view that pristine star formation ended by z ≳ 6 and suggest that small pockets of metal-free gas survived much longer than previously thought. Researchers stress that more observations will be needed to determine the galaxy's true nature. Future spectroscopic studies with higher resolution and better signal quality could help confirm whether CR3 is genuinely hosting Population III star formation. The discovery is also expected to encourage searches for other similar galaxies, which could help astronomers better understand how the first stars formed and how galaxies evolved in the early universe. Source: Tsinghua University, IOPscience This article was generated with some help from AI and reviewed by an editor. Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, this material is used for the purpose of news reporting. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing.
    • "I think in the immediate absence of a partner to apply relief" In the words of Sterling Archer... "Phrasing!"
  • Recent Achievements

    • Dedicated
      HidekoYamamoto94 earned a badge
      Dedicated
    • One Month Later
      timbobit earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • One Month Later
      nates earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      Almohandis earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Rookie
      dorf went up a rank
      Rookie
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      455
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      161
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      107
    4. 4
      Michael Scrip
      83
    5. 5
      Steven P.
      70
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!