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I never said such behaviour was acceptable?clearly it isn't?but we're talking about a harmless prank here. People do all sorts of things to people who pass out drunk but that doesn't warrant a lawsuit for emotional damage. I stand by my previous statement. The charges made in the lawsuit are ridiculous and clearly not merited by what actually happened.

 

Nonsense. I've been in surgery and don't consider this to be a major issue. Would I have liked it to happen to me? No. Would I file a lawsuit and try to get the people involved fired? Absolutely not.

I bet if someone drew balls on your chin and passed it out to coworkers, you would.

I bet if someone drew balls on your chin and passed it out to coworkers, you would.

Ha! That'd be awesome. Honestly, I'd go to a different hospital if I didn't want this to happen--I'd expect it from my coworkers. Just like if my computer breaks here, I'm not asking them to fix it, they'd give it back with seventy gigs of porn, the mouse set up for left hand use, and the system font in traditional Chinese. Without my account set up as an admin :laugh:

I bet if someone drew balls on your chin and passed it out to coworkers, you would.

No, I wouldn't. I'm not driven by the capitalist desire to acquire more wealth at all costs. Depending on the circumstances I might demand a formal apology. It's bizarre that people think the appropriate way to deal with a situation like this is with a lawsuit.

I never said it was acceptable, I was saying that because she made a huge deal about it, that pic is going to circulate the internet and media outlets forever, she couldve just the same kept it between her, her lawyer, and the hospital's legal department.

 

Why should she, since the pranksters apparently didn't?

No, I wouldn't. I'm not driven by the capitalist desire to acquire more wealth at all costs. Depending on the circumstances I might demand a formal apology. It's bizarre that people think the appropriate way to deal with a situation like this is with a lawsuit.

And if your demand wasn't met, what then?  What if nobody was reprimanded over it?

 

Just shrug your shoulders and move on?

And if your demand wasn't met, what then?  What if nobody was reprimanded over it?

 

Just shrug your shoulders and move on?

Probably. If it was as described here then I'd simply laugh and move on. Depending on the circumstances I might take it to the media to expose it on moral principle but the point wouldn't be to extort money from the situation. Too many people see lawsuits and cash settlements as justice, as the go-to solution.

 

Life is difficult enough without making unnecessary obstacles.

Probably. If it was as described here then I'd simply laugh and move on. Depending on the circumstances I might take it to the media to expose it on moral principle but the point wouldn't be to extort money from the situation. Too many people see lawsuits and cash settlements as justice, as the go-to solution.

 

Life is difficult enough without making unnecessary obstacles.

I think you missed the point.

 

She is trying to force the hospital to not allow this kind of behavior.  Obviously normal channels did not work.  Just because you are easy-going and willing to let people walk all over you doesn't mean everyone else is.

What everyone doesn't realize is she was only supposed to be sedated for the procedure. She was instead given full anesthesia, which means she was given more medication than was necessary. If the anesthesiologist had gotten the amount wrong, it could have killed her. This can also cause serious damage. Under licensing for those positions, one of the requirements is that you not over administer anesthesia. These people should have their licenses pulled, and the hospital should be sued for not firing these folks in a timely manner. She was their patient first, and they violated multiple ethical guidelines not to mention law when they performed this so-called prank.

I think you missed the point.

 

She is trying to force the hospital to not allow this kind of behavior. 

The hospital acknowledged the incident was a breach of professionalism and obviously doesn't endorse such behaviour.

The hospital acknowledged the incident was a breach of professionalism and obviously doesn't endorse such behaviour.

Yet the employees are still there....

 

That is one heck of a screw up to just get a slap on the wrist.

sad that some people here are defending the staff but are forgetting to think of the patient... jwoodfin09 is right, she claims she was overly medicated which isn't a ethical thing in first place and can do more harm than good (more time to recover, more prone to undesired consequences and if something goes wrong she could have died).

 

this is a mess of a situation, honestly.

sad that some people here are defending the staff but are forgetting to think of the patient... jwoodfin09 is right, she claims she was overly medicated which isn't a ethical thing in first place and can do more harm than good (more time to recover, more prone to undesired consequences and if something goes wrong she could have died).

 

this is a mess of a situation, honestly.

That is true--I missed that bit. They should be held accountable for the mistake there, if not the silly bit.

Sounds like someboy on the surgical team might have known who this woman was if she was a surgical supply purchaser - practical joke gone bad. Community service and give the lady her next surgery for free. (without the mustache and eye drops)

Sounds like someboy on the surgical team might have known who this woman was if she was a surgical supply purchaser - practical joke gone bad. Community service and give the lady her next surgery for free. (without the mustache and eye drops)

Are you F****** nuts?  Community service for potentially causing death or injury by over-medicating her for a procedure that didnt require it?  They should be grateful not to be in jail, as a result they need to have their licenses suspended (at a minimum) and the hospital's extremely slow (two years!) reaction deserves a lawsuit...

I never said such behaviour was acceptable?clearly it isn't?but we're talking about a harmless prank here. People do all sorts of things to people who pass out drunk but that doesn't warrant a lawsuit for emotional damage. I stand by my previous statement. The charges made in the lawsuit are ridiculous and clearly not merited by what actually happened.

 

Nonsense. I've been in surgery and don't consider this to be a major issue. Would I have liked it to happen to me? No. Would I file a lawsuit and try to get the people involved fired? Absolutely not.

 

 

There is a rather stark difference between your idiot mates drawing a dick on your forehead after you've pasted out drunk and having medical professionals mess around with someone's unconscious body.

There is a rather stark difference between your idiot mates drawing a dick on your forehead after you've pasted out drunk and having medical professionals mess around with someone's unconscious body.

A more apt comparison would have been drawing on a co-worker's face while they're asleep. The point remains that these sorts of pranks happen countless thousands of times each year without the need for lawsuits. It's very difficult to demonstrate emotional harm and most of the other accusations are excessive or ridiculous (I mean, sexual harassment... really?). Certainly there was a significant breach of trust that warrants an official warning, and if there is a history of this sort of behaviour then further action should be taken, but I don't think it warrants ruining careers that took decades to train for. I don't see any benefit to society in firing the employees involved or awarding massive financial compensation.

 

Let me just be clear, I'm not defending the actions of those involved as I think what they did was wrong. However, I think it would be just as wrong for those involved to lose their jobs or for the hospital to be saddled with massive legal costs.

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