.... Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Where? Word is it, Baltimore is heavily going after him. Also, Greg Maddux looks like he's out of Atlanta.....ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayrider Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 ahhh thats it... montreal is officially dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fubalastic Fantaculist Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 yeah the orioles are very interested in vlad. with all of the free agents right now, should be interesting to see how everything plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatnipOligarchy Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 im extremely POd about this maddux situation. i dont see why it would have hurt to offer the guy arbitration and see if something could be worked out. hes won 15 games or more for 16 years in a row. he went 16-11 last year with a sub 4 era. those arent maddux numbers, but they are still top 20% numbers! why are you going to just let him walk out the door?? plus, hes 11 wins from 300!!! thats the kind of thing that puts people in the seats, something the braves could use. maddux has been my favorite player ever since he came to atlanta, and ive been waiting for him to get to 300 for years now. ive got season tickets and i had been planning to go up for #300 if it would have happened in atlanta. im sure maddux would have liked to get 300 in atlanta, but fuking AOL and their budget cuts wont allow this. this is another sad day for braves fans. vlad - he'll end up with the yankees or the red sox because the other 28 GMs dont friggen care anymore apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fubalastic Fantaculist Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 yeah you are right. why is the rest of the mlb just sitting around? i dont get it. oh and the braves would be a lot better off if they would quit making those freaking frisbees.. excuse me, trial cd's and maybe give a little more to a guy that has given so much to the city of atlanta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threetonesun Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 im extremely POd about this maddux situation. vlad - he'll end up with the yankees or the red sox because the other 28 GMs dont friggen care anymore apparently. Maddux, IMO, is too old to be consistent anymore. He's not as impressive as the new crop of pitchers. Let me say he was, once, one of my favorite pitchers and was obviously dominant in the early to mid 90s, but he's not as key as he used to be. I can see how a Braves fan might be ****ed at the situation though. Vladimir, let's hope he finally goes to a good team. The guy is amazing, and he's been stuck on the friggin' Expos. Maybe the Sox will take him to keep their Dominican ratio the same if they drop Manny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxikk Veteran Posted December 8, 2003 Veteran Share Posted December 8, 2003 go o's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Damn mother-bleeping, scrotum-licking, piles of monkey bleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRoling Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 They have all these faint rumors in Chi-town that the Cubs are heavily pursuing him. I mean, they have all these Dominican/Carribean presence on the team that apparently Vladmir likes, but I don't think the Cubs have the money after signing the Minnesota set-up guy, name doesn't come to mind, they are probably gonna dump someone if this ever happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labtec Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 im extremely POd about this maddux situation. i dont see why it would have hurt to offer the guy arbitration and see if something could be worked out. hes won 15 games or more for 16 years in a row. he went 16-11 last year with a sub 4 era. those arent maddux numbers, but they are still top 20% numbers! why are you going to just let him walk out the door?? plus, hes 11 wins from 300!!! thats the kind of thing that puts people in the seats, something the braves could use. maddux has been my favorite player ever since he came to atlanta, and ive been waiting for him to get to 300 for years now. ive got season tickets and i had been planning to go up for #300 if it would have happened in atlanta. im sure maddux would have liked to get 300 in atlanta, but fuking AOL and their budget cuts wont allow this. this is another sad day for braves fans. vlad - he'll end up with the yankees or the red sox because the other 28 GMs dont friggen care anymore apparently. If we did offer arbitration we would probably have to end up paying $15 million to maddux again. That's about 20% of the around $80 million Time Warner wants to cut down to. Yes I would like to have Maddux back, but I think there is money better to be spent with that 15 million then on Maddux. Time Warner doesn't really care, although they should because if they field a losing team then low ratings on TBS next season. Corporations never care about the teams they own, a baseball team is probably priority #200 for Time Warner on their list (movies first, aol & other concerns etc) they need to sell the Braves to someone dedicated like an Arthur Blank (who's only priority is the team and not like a corporation who have bigger concerns) who also isn't scared to open up the checkbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMac Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 My predictions are that Vlad will be a Yank and Maddox will be a Cubbie to end his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicoCahill Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 with sheffield not signed yet, its a good possibility that vlad might go the the yanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 ahhh thats it... montreal is officially dead The firesale has begun! Without Vlad, the Expos' value as a team has easily dropped by $25 million. Smart move, MLB! :angry: Someone on the Expos newsgroup said it best. That is like trying to sell your home, but not including it greatest asset, like Central Air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcoffee Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 I really hope the O's get Vlad ! that would be rad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehanson Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 The firesale has begun! Without Vlad, the Expos' value as a team has easily dropped by $25 million. Smart move, MLB! :angry:Someone on the Expos newsgroup said it best. That is like trying to sell your home, but not including it greatest asset, like Central Air. You are correct. I cannot think of any reason why the Expos did not offer arbitration. Although I don't think the team value dropped by $25m, I do believe it went down. I wonder if MLB/Montreal management thinks that he also would not want to sign with the team if they moved to Oregon or Washington D.C. Vlad seems pretty intent on going to a city with a large dominican population. If the Manny/A-Rod deal happens, it leaves Boston without a left-fielder. They seem like they want to move Nomar. How about trading Nomar for some top prospects, and using the money that you free up and sign Vlad? Imagine that... A-Rod and Vlad. Two of the top young superstars in the game, 3 and 4 in the lineup. -- ehanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokkolm Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 You are correct. I cannot think of any reason why the Expos did not offer arbitration. Although I don't think the team value dropped by $25m, I do believe it went down. I wonder if MLB/Montreal management thinks that he also would not want to sign with the team if they moved to Oregon or Washington D.C. Vlad seems pretty intent on going to a city with a large dominican population. If the Manny/A-Rod deal happens, it leaves Boston without a left-fielder. They seem like they want to move Nomar. How about trading Nomar for some top prospects, and using the money that you free up and sign Vlad? Imagine that... A-Rod and Vlad. Two of the top young superstars in the game, 3 and 4 in the lineup. -- ehanson But then they wouldn't be able to blow it against the yankees in game 7? why would they want to do that :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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