Sun-bathing senior pleads not guilty to lewdness

[Hum]

FARMINGTON, Utah ?  A 76-year-old man who police say was sunbathing nude in his backyard next to a church parking lot in Utah has pleaded not guilty to lewdness charges.

The Standard-Examiner of Ogden reports (http://bit.ly/1uLJW30 ) that Myron Lee Kipp was in a Farmington, Utah, court Tuesday. Kipp pleaded not guilty to four counts of lewdness involving a child and three counts of lewdness.

Court documents show a police officer called to Kipp's house by neighbors on March 5 could see the man from the church parking lot. The backyard fence is chain link with no privacy slats.

When confronted, a completely nude Kipp told the officer it was his property and he could do what he wanted.

Several parents said they and their children could see the man from the parking lot.
 

from: Standard-Examiner, http://www.standard.net

[LaP]

Oh noes their childrens could see a naked man.

[SierraSonic]

Private property, don't look over. Of course the law is going to be against him though.

[Hum]

Oh noes their childrens could see a naked man.

 

^ Agreed.

 

Nudity is something people should get over.

 

It doesn't sound like he went out of his way to make a display of himself.

 

He was laying quietly in his back yard.

 

Probably only 1 kid saw him, and called over 2 others.

 

Sooner or later those kids are going to see nude people.

 

I'd vote him not guilty.

[adrynalyne]

Private property, don't look over. Of course the law is going to be against him though.

Private property does not give rights to break the law on it.

 

If the dude wants to do it, fine, but make it so others don't see it.  Then he isn't breaking the law.

[DocM]

If he wants to sunbathe nude, put up a privacy fence or go to a nude beach. Otherwise he's just a passive flasher.

[LaP]

If he wants to submarine nude, put up a privacy fence or go to a nude beach. Otherwise he's just a passive flasher.

 

I agree. But honestly is it worth spending tax payers money on that?

 

Give him a fine and ask him to put up a privacy fence.

 

I could be wrong but it looks like it's the first time he was caught doing it.

[McKay]

He should sue them for ocular trespassing :rofl:  

[Hum]

 

He should sue them for ocular trespassing :rofl:  

 

or Stalking, invasion of privacy.

[payturr]

I personally think he shouldn't receive a serious sentence if (and most likely when) he's found guilty; I believe he should only receive a warning, apologize to the witnesses, and put up a privacy fence.

 

HOWEVER, if testimonies claim he was committing rather voyeuristic actions first (stretching in front of the fence) before or while sunbathing, then he should receive a more serious punishment (fine, jail time, etc). 

[Rippleman]

or Stalking, invasion of privacy.

 

 

Private property, don't look over. Of course the law is going to be against him though.

 

would/could you say the same if he was having sex? what about masturbating? 

[FloatingFatMan]

would/could you say the same if he was having sex? what about masturbating? 

 

He wasn't doing either; stop playing the "what if" game, it's irrelevant.

[+Warwagon MVC]

At least he wasn't doing it on the driveway.

[+Red King Subscriber²]

Oh no nudity, so horrible and unnatural, Jesus would be ashamed!

[+Eternal Tempest MVC]

Why not have the church put a fence on there part of the property?

[Rippleman]

He wasn't doing either; stop playing the "what if" game, it's irrelevant.

 

i am glad you are not involved in law... it applies directly. Sorry you can't see the connection. Let me help... the two statements i quoted show a proposed reasoning of solution, which indeed would work for the action in question, but where could one apply that law? Where does one law end and the next begin? It's easiest just to have one blanket law to cover a wide range of actions , in this case, showing your sexual anatomy in public while on private property. The same would apply if you were masturbating/having sex in your chain linked back yard or on your front porch.

[SierraSonic]

would/could you say the same if he was having sex? what about masturbating? 

 

 

i am glad you are not involved in law... it applies directly. Sorry you can't see the connection. Let me help... the two statements i quoted show a proposed reasoning of solution, which indeed would work for the action in question, but where could one apply that law? Where does one law end and the next begin? It's easiest just to have one blanket law to cover a wide range of actions , in this case, showing your sexual anatomy in public while on private property. The same would apply if you were masturbating/having sex in your chain linked back yard or on your front porch.

My answer is the same. Quit looking, move on, it's natural. Children shouldn't be protected from nature, just from malicious intent. Kids goto zoos and see monkeys jack off, etc. <-- Opinion

 

Legally though, most likely going to be fined/jailed. <-- Fact, based on an assumption of law being enforced.

[Rippleman]

My answer is the same. Quit looking, move on, it's natural. Children shouldn't be protected from nature, just from malicious intent. Kids goto zoos and see monkeys jack off, etc. <-- Opinion

 

Legally though, most likely going to be fined/jailed. <-- Fact, based on an assumption of law being enforced.

 

honestly you would be ok with your kids watching your next door neighbor having sex in his backyard?... you are one weird dude. Adults could turn away, kids would look.

[FloatingFatMan]

honestly you would be ok with your kids watching your next door neighbor having sex in his backyard?... you are one weird dude. Adults could turn away, kids would look.

 

Again, you're playing the "what if" game, and it's just not relevant.  The guy in question wasn't having sex or touching himself, he was just sunbathing.  You're attempting to foster false outrage by making it appear as if his "crime" were significantly worse than it is.

[DocM]

And public nudity, especially genital nudity, is illegal in most all of the US, so quit.

How not to be public and sunbathe? Privacy fence. Part of being a considerate neighbor and not getting on the sex offenders list.

[FloatingFatMan]

And public nudity, especially genital nudity, is illegal in most all of the US, so quit.

How not to be public and sunbathe? Privacy fence. Part of being a considerate neighbor and not getting on the sex offenders list.

 

I never said it wasn't, but charge him with the crime he committed without trying to make it out to be even worse by adding ridiculous "what if's" to it.

[T3X4S]

FARMINGTON, Utah ?  A 76-year-old man who police say was sunbathing nude in his backyard next to a church parking lot in Utah has pleaded not guilty to lewdness charges.

The Standard-Examiner of Ogden reports (http://bit.ly/1uLJW30 ) that Myron Lee Kipp was in a Farmington, Utah, court Tuesday. Kipp pleaded not guilty to four counts of lewdness involving a child and three counts of lewdness.

Court documents show a police officer called to Kipp's house by neighbors on March 5 could see the man from the church parking lot. The backyard fence is chain link with no privacy slats.

When confronted, a completely nude Kipp told the officer it was his property and he could do what he wanted.

Several parents said they and their children could see the man from the parking lot.

 

from: Standard-Examiner, http://www.standard.net

Clue #1: church

Clue #2: utah

says everything.

 

[Jewelzz]

This would be a non issue if it was a woman instead of a man

[CrossCheck]

Clue #1: church

Clue #2: utah

says everything.

 

+1

 

So glad i live in this state.....1, 2, 3, SARCASM

 

but i bet if something like this was involved in church (the church) ritual, most would turn the other cheek (no pun intended, well maybe a little) or it would be downright accepted.

[T3X4S]

Had a boss for a short time who was mormon - I literally thought he was going to blow a blood vessel in his head and pop out an O-ring when he saw me email a pic of Sofia Vergara in a thong bikini.

He came unglued & it was then I remembered mormons view a bikini as XXX porn, right ?