Windows 10 Preview Has A Keylogger to Watch Your Every Move

[Max Norris]

That's a workaround, not a solution.

There is no solution because it's not a problem -- that's one of the things this test build is designed for, it was clearly stated up front what it's for and they flat out tell you it's not meant for day to day use.  At all.  Sounds like you're wanting to wait for the consumer preview next year.

[simonlang]

i think it's a big problem if ms starts to do keylogging. that's also completely against any security. who knows that they do with my passwords?

sure, if you read the license, no problem but who would have done that really? i mean a big company like ms should be trusted in this way. very bad move from ms.

[adrynalyne]

now i did not really expect this from ms. sure, they want to get feedback on what the user does and what he uses or not, but keylogging every keypush is just a no go. password safety? :/

 

Password fields won't be logged.

 

Seriously folks.  This is no different than adaptive predictive text on smartphone keyboards.  You AGREE to it beforehand.  Don't agree, don't install.  Seems pretty straightforward.  Its not like they hid the info from anyone.

[simonlang]

Password fields won't be logged.

 

 

 

these days a simple password won't accepted on many websites, so you need to get one with ?$$/("; and stuff in it. i never enter that directly in the pw field because all i see is *** or points and can't remember what i have typed.

i open Kwrite and enter it there before so i can see if it's okay and only then apply it to a password field.

if i do this in windows, my pw get's logged. horrible.

[Max Norris]

i think it's a big problem if ms starts to do keylogging.

This is not a new OS "feature".. it's part of a test build.    In what universe do you think something like that would fly in a regular release?

[adrynalyne]

 

if i do this in windows, my pw get's logged. horrible.

Prove it.

[Guest]

who knows that they do with my passwords?

 

Facepalm. Passwords, really? And you're using Linux, you're supposed to be a bit more tech savy than the average idiot.

[BajiRav]

No one is "blaming" MS, but why can't we have a dialog with them about it, instead of "no question asked" policy ?

It's a two ways street, we want to test it, they want our feedback (trust me, they need us more than we need them... what if there would have been zero d/l of the preview ?)

Just because they're the big corporate doesn't mean we must agree to everything they ask. Yes, not testing the OS is an option, but hopefully they will listen and patch a middle ground with the next build.

why do you have to enter personal information in a test environment? Read my post in its context. There is nothing to discuss when Microsoft has clearly said that Win10TP is not for daily use.

[elangab]

why do you have to enter personal information in a test environment? Read my post in its context. There is nothing to discuss when Microsoft has clearly said that Win10TP is not for daily use.

If I need to connect to a network drive as an admin, or testing other services.

Look, I think people here are mixing two thing - the keylogging itsels, and the fact that we want it to changed.

For the keylogging itself, MS was/is very clear about what it collects, I have no problem with that and I don't think they tried to sneak it in. No one is blaming MS for that, and we all know it will not be part of the RTM.

But, all of the "why did you agree, uninstall it" advice is silly, because we all have a similar goal here, and that is to test and give feedback for the new product. So it's OK to give feedback about the start menu, but it's wrong to give feedback about the data collection policy of the TP ? Why ? Sorry, but I don't get it. Is it something holy and sacred that we're not suppose to discuss ? Maybe MS will get aware of this, and change it. Maybe not, but if we won't talk about, we wouldn't know.

Personally, in order to fully test it I need to use it on a daily basis (VM or hardware), other wise I won't be able to help myself and/or MS. I didn't install it, and if I'll have to wait for a newer build or even the RTM - I will.

[Order_66]

You didn't have to trust Microsoft

You didn't have to participate in a pre-release alpha

You didn't have to install Windows 10

You didn't have to use it as your main OS

If you did, you have only yourself to blame.

/ns

 

 

Funny, in your condescending rant list I couldn't get past the first "You didn't have to trust microsoft" so why on earth would I do any of the rest?

 

I participated in the windows 8 test, I learned a lot about microsoft during those days, and none of it was any good, instead of testing windows 10 I find it better to simply observe.

[winrez]

They have been doing this for some time now, I think of the last example was tracking where millions of people looked for a feature and how long it took to find it *at least that's how they overhauled the menu bar and we received the ribbon)

[Guest]

They have been doing this for some time now, I think of the last example was tracking where millions of people looked for a feature and how long it took to find it *at least that's how they overhauled the menu bar and we received the ribbon)

 

They have been doing that since the 90s. It is exactly what the Customer Experience Improvement Program is for.

[FloatingFatMan]

these days a simple password won't accepted on many websites, so you need to get one with ?$$/("; and stuff in it. i never enter that directly in the pw field because all i see is *** or points and can't remember what i have typed.

i open Kwrite and enter it there before so i can see if it's okay and only then apply it to a password field.

if i do this in windows, my pw get's logged. horrible.

 

Since when is it MS's fault that you can't type your password properly?

[Noir Angel]

Use an Internet connected device without having to enter any sensitive information? Yeah, good luck with that. Of course the reaction on this forum would be somewhat different if this took place in ChromeOS or Android.

[CyclingGuyNOLA]

Use an Internet connected device without having to enter any sensitive information? Yeah, good luck with that. Of course the reaction on this forum would be somewhat different if this took place in ChromeOS or Android.

That made my night.

Since when is it MS's fault that you can't type your password properly?

It's always Microsoft's fault

 

/s

[FlailingCamper]

Overrated, they tell you up front and it's been posted on every tech news outlet.  Besides, this is a preview build specifically to get feedback, not for general use and certainly not for grandma to do her banking on.. not actually having it send them feedback/metrics is self-defeating.

thats a little over done though dont you think? i guess i can understand where they are coming from.

[Ian W]

They have been doing that since the 90s. It is exactly what the Customer Experience Improvement Program is for.

This.

As mentioned before, the CEIP was used during the development of Windows 7 and Windows 8. The only difference that I have observed with the CEIP in the Technical Preview and in previous versions of Windows is that participation is mandatory in the Technical Preview.

If one doesn't agree to the terms, then he or she shouldn't install and/or use the software.

[Max Norris]

thats a little over done though dont you think? i guess i can understand where they are coming from.

Not really no. It's not for you to dump whatever you're using now and use it as your desktop OS, it's a test, nothing more. It's not hard to understand and it's spelled up front. If you want to run something like this 24/7 then you're wanting the CP next year. This is not it.

[+therealDamien Subscriber¹]

but there is an itch that insist that I must use new things.

 

 

but also, couldnt you just change to a local account and not use the store or apps that require micrsoft account?